401 N Michigan Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred B Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 that is just some stupid stuff that they did that points to the problem that was IH. you can point to a 86 series tractor and ask most any IH guy "what's different on that IH emblem, and you will have to explain the difference to him. As if they ( IH ) didn't have enough real problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Fred B said: that is just some stupid stuff that they did that points to the problem that was IH. you can point to a 86 series tractor and ask most any IH guy "what's different on that IH emblem, and you will have to explain the difference to him. As if they didn't have enough real problems. What?? How is that stupid?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 this is beyond stupid!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bud guy Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 13 minutes ago, hillman said: this is beyond stupid!!!!!!!!! So are you implying they should remove IH??? Why do you have it circled??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 it is no longer a man on the tractor unless it has a flat tire or a broken axle🤣 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 18 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said: So are you implying they should remove IH??? Why do you have it circled??? You would like that.. I haven't seen you say anything nice about International Harvester since you showed up here.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, hillman said: it no longer is a man on the tractor unless it has a flat tire or a broken axle🤣 It's still better than that ugly 4 letter word in front of it though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Collector Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Some may say it's stupid, but I say it's pretty cool to see. Thanks for posting. I also think it's an iconic logo, and it was usually affixed to pretty fine equipment. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Busy work for engineering 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 49 minutes ago, hillman said: this is beyond stupid!!!!!!!!! More realistic would have been the vulture siting on the man on a tractor's head 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 24 minutes ago, jeeper61 said: More realistic would have been the vulture siting on the man on a tractor's head Another case lover here, huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredT Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 So flame me if you wish and I mean no disrespect to anyone, but I agree with all of the above. I think its neat to see the actual dimensions and factory specs of the logo, it is your identity as a brand of any product that is manufactured, it should be cool. I think its retarded that money was invested in such a foolish manner when that engineer could have been paid to do a job that would have helped better a product, example of corporate waste. I hate the idea that the merger happened, but I love that my favorite tractors are red and that IH is still a part of them. The merger happened over 35 years ago, time to move on and accept that **** happens, clean it up and move on. For the record, i love our Puma and Magnum, but I also will never let the 966, 656, H, MTA or the Case 830 leave. They are the past that built the current and the Logo on the Magnum and Puma serves just fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 So then by your thoughts, should the logo have remained unchanged since the early 1900s? Because it's a stupid waste of time to update the corporate logo? Every company has updated logos. I bet you loved it when deere changed their stupid leaping antelope every few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Plow Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Don't forget that those logos are not standard fonts and that they must be defined specifically to be registered and protected by copyright laws. Wasteful or not, they were required to do business. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Collector Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 17 minutes ago, JaredT said: So flame me if you wish and I mean no disrespect to anyone, but I agree with all of the above. I think its neat to see the actual dimensions and factory specs of the logo, it is your identity as a brand of any product that is manufactured, it should be cool. I think its retarded that money was invested in such a foolish manner when that engineer could have been paid to do a job that would have helped better a product, example of corporate waste. Pretty much any company is going to be protective and particular of their brand, logo, trademark, etc. It is, after all, the "face" of their company, and lots of $$ is spent by companies worldwide on such branding. Also, everything on a tractor, from the engine block to the valve stem cap started out as a drawing by an engineer. Someone, somewhere, put those specs down on paper before each individual part could be built. The outside contractor making decals, nosecone badges, or printing the Buyer's Guides need to know the exact specs, dimensions, colors, etc. of how IH wanted its logo to look. As far as it being foolish to waste an engineer's time when he could have been bettering the product... I sort of doubt that the guys doing the logo design were the same guys designing pistons or hydraulic systems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5088 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Gotta be honest, I think IH's later version logo is the cooler looking version. And I felt the 1st CaseIH logo with their emblems side by side was their best version too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bud guy Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Farmall Doctor said: You would like that.. I haven't seen you say anything nice about International Harvester since you showed up here.. It was a honest question. Why do you say "this is beyond stupid" and circle IH instead of Case. I thought most people wanted the Case name gone??? Do me a favor. Click on your username in the upper right corner. Go to "ignore users" and add my name to your list because I just added your name to my list. Tired of reading posts from a 5 year old. You and SVcummins on the JD ytmag board must be related. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeper61 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 52 minutes ago, Farmall Doctor said: Another case lover here, huh? I like most old tractors I enjoy the history behind there development Grampa had a few IH tractors I drove a few Transtars bed bugging but I haven't owned a Case. Got a couple IH trucks two Ford Tractors and a Oliver Crawler My view is the vulture got the tractor line and now the Krauts got the truck line 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billonthefarm Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, hillman said: this is beyond stupid!!!!!!!!! I actually like this logo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall Doctor Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 11 hours ago, Big Bud guy said: It was a honest question. Why do you say "this is beyond stupid" and circle IH instead of Case. I thought most people wanted the Case name gone??? Do me a favor. Click on your username in the upper right corner. Go to "ignore users" and add my name to your list because I just added your name to my list. Tired of reading posts from a 5 year old. You and SVcummins on the JD ytmag board must be related. That wasn't me that posted that!! good grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 22 minutes ago, jeeper61 said: I like most old tractors I enjoy the history behind there development Grampa had a few IH tractors I drove a few Transtars bed bugging but I haven't owned a Case. Got a couple IH trucks two Ford Tractors and a Oliver Crawler My view is the vulture got the tractor line and now the Krauts got the truck line You forgot the communist Chinese now have what was left of the industrial line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searcyfarms Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 i like tractors 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binderoid Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 And everyone was worried about flinging insults in the coffee shop. Did an out-of-frame overhaul, and we’re still getting water in the oil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWRB Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 You guys are getting reeeal hot about 1. A logo. All logos, brands etc are defined with this level of detail. We don't see it as consumers, but it's there. 2. The failure of IH, and a merger that happened several decades ago, turning into a company that doesn't even exist unto itself anymore. All the handwringing is about as useful as wishing the archduke hadn't been shot. 3. Whether an engineer's time would have been better spent on a machine. Engineers didn't do this. This is the work (and the job) of marketing and draftsmen/designers As for me, I'm not into the combination radius/orthogonal corner thing. Was that just considered fashion/style? I agree that it just deviates from the man on the tractor and I don't see the point. Loewy nailed it the first time, in my opinion. Great marks don't need revision in my opinion. Ford, University of Michigan (hate the school though), Coca-Cola, all great examples. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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