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Hi all! 

You guys were incredibly helpful last time I posted and a couple people encouraged me to take more photos, and more details.

I have taken photos of all around as well as a couple problem spots that are accumulating oil(s), marked by blue. Small leaks, very slow but would like to seal. Apologies for some of the angles, I could not get close enough to the ground or on the sides. 

So far I'm wondering the exact type of tractor this is (standard, row crop, how to tell difference?) It has the serial no 5098SY on it. And the year.

I'm also looking for any links to (the right) schematics as I've only been able to find a handful, and part numbers and/or replacement numbers.

I've phoned a few scrap yards around to see about used parts but for some things I am definitely leaning towards aftermarket. A center steering arm and the bushings for it have been my main struggle so far. 

 

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First order of business is a thorough pressure washing,  get all that old oil and grime off, then a good hard working to get the oil and water hot. Once that's happened start looking all over for the source of the oil. Gravity pulls it down so the bottom of tractors are always dirty but the oil could be coming from way above and many think it's from somewhere lower.

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If you don’t have a good pressure washer, maybe a few gallons or more of your favorite type of degreaser or all purpose cleaner. Just keep soaking it and soaking it, (don’t let it dry)  and then hose it off with a garden hose. Something like a “simple green” or “purple power”  is very economical -so you can use lots of it. 

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We are gonna pressure wash today, and then I'll add photos of what seems to actually be leaking. We would like to install a 3-point hitch on the back and my boyfriend said it even has the place to put it, that being said I can't find one and am not sure which others would fit? From photos is anyone able to tell what I should be looking for?(an adapter, a hitch off another tractor, a complete 3pt conversion kit?) 

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Sorry to say this but it will not be an easy task to add the 3 point. you will need to remove the cab and replace the top cover of the range housing to one that has a 3 point. the lift cylinder for the three point is inside that cover. from there you will need the rest of the components to make the swap. this is the top cover that you would need to replace. It would be best to find a scrap tractor if you wanted to make the swap. there a several other pieces required for the 3 point also.

 

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There is aftermarket 3pt hitches that can be added on. They just bolt to the rear of the tractor around the pto and run off one of the hyd remotes. They work ok for some things and might do the trick for you if you really want a 3pt on that tractor. We got one on our hydro 100. Have never used it and I think it's gonna come off this year. I'm sick of it lol

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just junked my 706 last month! Wish I would have known you wanted a factory 3-pt. ,-- the only thing I have left is the new 18.4 x 34 rears and the fronts.

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1 hour ago, Three-toed706 said:

We are gonna pressure wash today, and then I'll add photos of what seems to actually be leaking. We would like to install a 3-point hitch on the back and my boyfriend said it even has the place to put it, that being said I can't find one and am not sure which others would fit? From photos is anyone able to tell what I should be looking for?(an adapter, a hitch off another tractor, a complete 3pt conversion kit?) 

IH was a big proponent of Eli Whitney's concept of interchangeable parts. So you don't need a 3pt unit off that exact tractor. A 3pt unit off of any 06, 56, or 66 series with a first number of 7, 8 or 9 will work just fine. The only reason to not use one from a 10-12-14XX tractor is that they're Category 3, and have different lower lift arms, but they would work if that was all you could find. 

It's not an easy conversion, though. Not only as stated earlier does the cab have to come off, but you also have to pull a wheel off to install the lower draft bar. I think the left one.

I've seen aftermarket 3pt hitches for these tractors but I don't think anyone is currently manufacturing one, and they're not very common due to the fact that most of these tractors that needed 3pt came with 3pt...

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15 minutes ago, Matt Kirsch said:

IH was a big proponent of Eli Whitney's concept of interchangeable parts. So you don't need a 3pt unit off that exact tractor. A 3pt unit off of any 06, 56, or 66 series with a first number of 7, 8 or 9 will work just fine. The only reason to not use one from a 10-12-14XX tractor is that they're Category 3, and have different lower lift arms, but they would work if that was all you could find. 

It's not an easy conversion, though. Not only as stated earlier does the cab have to come off, but you also have to pull a wheel off to install the lower draft bar. I think the left one.

 

We are able and ready to split apart this tractor for a 3pt if we can find the whole piece in a box somewhere used even, as it would in the long run expand the utility of this tractor a lot. Ideally only to really actually pull a hayrake as it would mean one tractor instead of two on the field. This is pretty well our do it all tractor save for the lack of a 3pt. We borrow about $3000 of equipment in a year, so I feel it could pay for itself quickly. 

Hopefully y'all can help me keep an eye out, since you guys know better than me what I'm actually looking for. 

Cab coming off could be less of a problem provided it can go back on after (not in the way of the functioning unit) and the tires are coming off after our pressure wash regardless. 

Necessary? Absolutely not. But it would be a huge plus. And I have to replace the range housing thing but you say these pieces could come off another model? 

And then obviously the actual 3pt pieces, which I actually could be able to get aftermarket for a couple hundred bucks, long as they fit an 806. 

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We just replaced the 3 point lift cylinder and the torsion shaft assembly in my 1206 last month.  RH rear tire has to slide waaaay out or off.  You will be in this deep to add a factory 3 point to your 706. Definately work, but  it can be done!

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12 minutes ago, stronger800 said:

You wouldn’t need any aftermarket pieces, you would find a junkyard tractor that has all of the correct pieces on it, and buy them all. Even if they were half worn out, they would last you forever it sounds like anyway

This is why I would lean towards an adapter I think. All that work for what? Something a chain could almost do? It seems there are adapters that could bolt on and run off our current hydraulics (sounds like cheating😂) but I have to look some more. Basically we really love the concept of a 3 point and have some light work for it but in all reality, we only do 20 acres a year and just need it to pull a rake🥲

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1 hour ago, db1486 said:

There is aftermarket 3pt hitches that can be added on. They just bolt to the rear of the tractor around the pto and run off one of the hyd remotes. They work ok for some things and might do the trick for you if you really want a 3pt on that tractor. We got one on our hydro 100. Have never used it and I think it's gonna come off this year. I'm sick of it lol

I really likes some of these when I saw them, see previous comment but it doesn't need to do much. Do you think it would pull a rake for 20 acres unscathed? That's our year about. We do specialty small haying, and our rake is 6 ft and weighs maybe a couple hundred pounds at worst. Our PTO takes the brunt of it, because we pull around a 488 haybine

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Just now, TN Hillbilly said:

What kind of rake are you using?  Sounds like to me if all you are using the 3 pt for is a rake, you would be better off to buy a cheap pull-type side delivery rake.

An inherited one, but the 3pt would likely do more for us than just that but that would be it's biggest use. Lot of 3pt equipment is super cheap around here,

We were looking at a sickle blade mower that would be an awesome addition to our small haying op, so on and so forth really. I think it's because of the size of our operation, since we mainly do 2-4 acres at a time and some orchards. 

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I put a bolt on 3 pt on my SM.

pulled a 10 wheel Vicon V rake over thousands of acres. 

They are out there if you look. Scour the salvage yards

Just bought another one for a 656 bareback that I just purchased. 

A tractor without a 3pt is pretty useless to me. 

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1 hour ago, stronger800 said:

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard anybody say a 80 year old design sickle blade mower was awesome before. Although I will admit, I have never operated one.

Have you ever tried mowing an orchard with a side pull haybine😂🥲

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You'd be WAY money ahead to sell that tractor and buy one with 3 point.

A 706 wheatland diesel is a good tractor, peel that cab off and send it south to the states. You'll get good money for it down here and 706 row crops with 3 point already installed are  a dime a dozen. 

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Guys, my tie rod is stuck on. No fork in the world is gonna save this. Can I heat it? What do I do here? I've tried every method I can think of logically without damaging any adjoining pieces. I don't think I can get a center steering arm anywhere quickly or I'd say screw it and replace the whole dang thing. 

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7 hours ago, Three-toed706 said:

I really likes some of these when I saw them, see previous comment but it doesn't need to do much. Do you think it would pull a rake for 20 acres unscathed? That's our year about. We do specialty small haying, and our rake is 6 ft and weighs maybe a couple hundred pounds at worst. Our PTO takes the brunt of it, because we pull around a 488 haybine

It would be fine for that. I think they are good enough for that type of work, 3 pt bale fork, snow blower, etc. I don't think I would want to hook a plow to it and go to the field, but all that other stuff would be no issue. These aftermarket 3 pt hitches are, I wouldn't say common, but are definitely around out here. I would say it is easier to find one of them than a tractor of that age with a factory 3 pt around here.

Here's a few pictures of the one we have. It came on the tractor and we have never used it. I pulled the ball ends out of the arms because they were hitting the baler hitch but they would be there.

 

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Here aftermarket 3pt hitch that was built in SK,  it was green before.  It bolts to “D” of the hitch.  Only use is going to be a snowblower.  Never mind the junk around the tractor,  lol.  Its turned into a project 

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