acem Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 So I finished the left. Brakes and started on the right. It appears the right side brake plate assembly has been replaced at some point with a different one. Below are pics of the left brake before I took it off and after I rebuilt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 Here's a pic of the right side I just took off. Notice the automatic adjuster hardware (some of it), different spring retaining pins (for automatic adjusters) and screws holding the brake lining on... Bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
int 504 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Screws and nuts were common method of installing replacement linings for use in the absence of a riveting machine. Just can the self adjusters and adjust manually. Use never seize on adjuster threads. You won't have to adjust very often given your annual mileage. Did some like that on a 64 GMC last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
int 504 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Another thing-check the diameters of the wheel cylinders. I recently found two different diameter cylinders on the front of an IH. The casting numbers were correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 It gets more interesting. The left brake is 15x5 which is the correct brakes for this truck and the standard brake for a 75 loadstar 1600. The right brake is 16x5 which is why nothing looks correct... the entire assembly drum, shoes, backing plate, etc has been changed. Ih offered many options but not this! Now I need to find a complete 15x5 brake assembly with drum for my truck. Or a parts truck with this brake... The 3 month brake job continues. Thx-Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAVELETTE Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Code 04210 16X5 was available on 1600's with rear axle codes 14029. or 14030, or 14189. Your donor truck will need match one of those rear axle codes to be an easy direct bolt on swap. Otherwise, the bolt spacing on the backing plate/anchor supports will not match. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinvt Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Ace, Thanks for your rebuild pics! They solved a question I had about two wheel cylinders. Are both cylinders the same part number? It seems like the first one in line would get more volume and wear the brake linings uneven? Far be it for me to play engineer, but the concept of two cylinders, and line diameter the same raised my eyebrows some. Best Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAVELETTE Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 The volume to both cylinders is the same. It's pressure that moves the volume of fluid. Not much happens until both cylinders are pressurized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Peterbilt Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 On 3/15/2022 at 2:05 PM, int 504 said: Screws and nuts were common method of installing replacement linings for use in the absence of a riveting machine. Just can the self adjusters and adjust manually. Use never seize on adjuster threads. You won't have to adjust very often given your annual mileage. Did some like that on a 64 GMC last year. Why would you never use anti seize compound on brake adjusters. I have found many that did not want to turn. Just curious as I have been putting that on them for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAVELETTE Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 On 3/15/2022 at 1:05 PM, int 504 said: Use never seize on adjuster threads. It appears that he refers to anti-seize compound as never seize. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
int 504 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 minutes ago, TRAVELETTE said: It appears that he refers to anti-seize compound as never seize. That is what I call it as that is what it used to say on the can way back whenever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 7 hours ago, int 504 said: That is what I call it as that is what it used to say on the can way back whenever. I remember John Deere used to sell an anti seize product they called “Never Seez”. Is that what you remember, or was there someone else who also called it that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binderoid Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Never Seez is the original trademark name of Bostik. It was on the cans of anti seize that came from the IH construction dealership (Rish Equipment or OTEC in our area). Our 250C was completely assembled with the stuff, guess we unscrewed every bolt on the thing at one time or another. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binderoid Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 On 4/1/2022 at 3:01 PM, acem said: It gets more interesting. The left brake is 15x5 which is the correct brakes for this truck and the standard brake for a 75 loadstar 1600. The right brake is 16x5 which is why nothing looks correct... the entire assembly drum, shoes, backing plate, etc has been changed. Ih offered many options but not this! Now I need to find a complete 15x5 brake assembly with drum for my truck. Or a parts truck with this brake... The 3 month brake job continues. Thx-Ace I’m stripping an ‘80 S-series single axle with hydraulic brakes.... if possibly that plate might be the same let me know, wasn’t going to use the axle at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted May 11 Author Share Posted May 11 Yes but I'm afraid shipping may be excessive. I'm using it without the Right rear brake at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAVELETTE Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 On 5/9/2023 at 10:42 PM, 1066 Peterbilt said: Why would you never use anti seize compound on brake adjusters. I was responding to 1066 Peterbilt's above comment. It questioned putting anti seize on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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