mmi Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Dont have my fiche handy know it fits 20+ models where is bearing used..? trans steering etc st225 st225bt st225t st678 352403r91 80413c91 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hillman Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I like the aftermarket price better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar farm Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 ST225 is a main shaft bearing for a 284 ST678 is for the steering worm shaft on 340 404 424 444 504 and a few other utility types. The last two sub to the ST678 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 Thanks was offered some in the paper cans. did find, fits 200+ other application and 2x $ motion ind only wanted $25, so why is fiat $160 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirlbeck Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 The ST678 is probably a full complement bearing, which is a LOT heavier bearing then a standard bearing, not saying it is a $150.00+ better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, pirlbeck said: The ST678 is probably a full complement bearing, which is a LOT heavier bearing then a standard bearing, not saying it is a $150.00+ better though. There are very few left that can answer that, For the IH applications it seems to be just light steering boxs, many others, it is trans or drive line power,so why would those not required the HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirlbeck Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I know a number of years ago I was going to pickup the front worm shaft bearing for an m or 400 and they tried to sell me the high priced full complement bearing, so I had a chance to compare them side by side. The full complement bearing looked and felt a lot heavier and I have seen the lighter version fail pretty bad back when these tractors were being used pretty hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar farm Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Those steering bearings are made for thrust. They are not a regular ball bearing. A regular ball bearing would not last very long on the steering worm gear on an M or H if its used regularly. I would give the guy a choice between a 35.00(at that time) thrust or a 6.00 ball bearing. Most the M's at that time had loaders on them and the guy found out real fast the 6.00 bearing did not last very long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHC_1470 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Try this site. https://www.mycnhistore.com/us/en/caseih/ When you get the part pulled up you can view sub numbers and what it fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 10 hours ago, cedar farm said: Those steering bearings are made for thrust. They are not a regular ball bearing. A regular ball bearing would not last very long on the steering worm gear on an M or H if its used regularly. I would give the guy a choice between a 35.00(at that time) thrust or a 6.00 ball bearing. Most the M's at that time had loaders on them and the guy found out real fast the 6.00 bearing did not last very long. Theres the rub if a st225 was speced and lasted 50 years and was used by 50 different mfg and is still subbed from those mfg to the current st225 version why is fiat $110 more +- Adults at MI generally calculate OEm in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar farm Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just for info. John Deere's bearing set for the steering thrust on A B and G is 79.23. Low production specialty bearings are not cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 Thats why I try to only buy USA or OEM in the box So even thought they are cheap china every one of these retailers is providing the "Wrong" part? https://www.steinertractor.com/IHS2945-Ball-Bearing?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiYqGlMjI9gIVGXeGCh2zSAj_EAQYASABEgItdvD_BwE https://www.ebay.com/itm/402058592444 https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/Farmall-300_Steering-Worm-Shaft-Bearing_ST225B.html https://www.ebay.com/p/28010899947 note Bob is showing a useless but fixable sealed bearing,hopefully that doenst ship or comes with note ! https://www.ebay.com/itm/303510425526?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=303510425526&targetid=1263104806246&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9059194&poi=&campaignid=16190447015&mkgroupid=128435277530&rlsatarget=aud-1297930287298:pla-1263104806246&abcId=9300820&merchantid=6477864&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyfqn6cvI9gIVGuXICh0tCwabEAQYASABEgJgnPD_BwE https://www.stevenstractor.com/home/st225b-ball-bearing.html this one is interesting if correct..??? http://www.tractoropolis.com/find-by-type/water-pump-kits-parts/ihc-water-pump-kits-parts/bearing-p-5488 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 hours ago, mmi said: Theres the rub if a st225 was speced and lasted 50 years and was used by 50 different mfg and is still subbed from those mfg to the current st225 version why is fiat $110 more +- Adults at MI generally calculate OEm in Fait is marking up parts in the insanity range and if you don't like it too bad IMHO. PTO housing o-ring for Super M t/a is $33 USD . That is 10 times more than a comparable o-ring from a bearing retailer. I doubt they sell a lot of some of these parts so they inflate the price to cover carrying them There is and was never a little bearing like that st678 made that is worth $166. The days of IH making their own bearings was a long time ago and the retailers can source bearing exactly the same for a fraction of the stupid price. apples to apples- spec to spec Fiat is out to lunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWRB Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 20 hours ago, mmi said: Thanks was offered some in the paper cans. did find, fits 200+ other application and 2x $ motion ind only wanted $25, so why is fiat $160 ? Same manufacturer or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 11:35 PM, mmi said: Thanks was offered some in the paper cans. did find, fits 200+ other application and 2x $ motion ind only wanted $25, so why is fiat $160 ? Bearings are strange, years ago I needed a bearing for the input side of a steering bolster on an JD440 TLB had the parts book, looked it up by jd number and it crossed to a SKF that was over 200 bucks. Seemed steep, so i called applied bearings, they crossed it a couple different ways and came up with the same thing give or take a few bucks. long story short that was some sort of super duper high speed bearing, which was unnecessary for the application. I used a Mic to get accurate dimensions and they found me a suitable one for around 20-30 bucks. Sometimes you have to hunt around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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