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Eh, i see the complaint about doors and shifters. Whatever..... i just hop up in mine and go to work. Ride rough? Sure but so does every other tractor i have when im bouncing across the field. I bought my newest tractor last year which is a 7840 ford. I like the quiet cab more than anything. Wanted a 5250 or mx120 but $$ couldnt do it. Still use the 1086 and the 1486 to do the real work. I tell guys you either like em or you didnt. No in between 

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More food for thought, how many 86 series tractors were ran hard during the 80s when farmers were struggling to hang onto their farms. They were ran hard year after year where otherwise the tractors would have been traded in on a newer model if the finances would have allowed.

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9 hours ago, TractormanMike.mb said:

More food for thought, how many 86 series tractors were ran hard during the 80s when farmers were struggling to hang onto their farms. They were ran hard year after year where otherwise the tractors would have been traded in on a newer model if the finances would have allowed.

Exactly, many 86s after their 5 yrs as the BIG tractor did not get retired to lesser tasks wether on the same farm or traded in only to become the BIG tractor on a smaller farm. Lots of them were asked to do more and cash was scarce. Thats why the doors came off mine. I kept mine mechanicly sound, dependability is a must have. But anything for cosmetics or comfort i didn't have $ for. A 4640 was 8-9k more, going in to the 80s might have been enough more debt to take me under, I was 19 when I drove my new 1486 RED POWER home from dealer.  I custom moldboard, chiesel, disked, mowed, round baled thousands of acres and bales besides my own. The only time it was washed was before the 2 engine OHs, the differential OH, or TA replacements other than just hosing mud off windows. Also had hogs, beef, and dairy so no winters in the shed. She was working with the 186, 856, 4020, grinding feed, hauling manure and hay. She sits here today looking really tacky as she watches my 275 magnum do around 600-650 hrs a year of planting, mowing, baling, etc that it don't even have to groan to do. But at 10* the other day I

gave her a shot of either in the grill, cranked about 4 seconds and put her on PTO generator duty to keep us warm. It will still go to work a hard day if asked to. Had i bought the 4640 if I survived the added debt, think 15-18% here not 3, it would probly be sittin around here looking equally as tacky with no glass left.     

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13 hours ago, ZG6E said:

Does the 1066 have to be wrapped up higher for pto rpm?

OUr 1066 and our 1486 ran exactly the same speed, the tranny & PTO components were the same as well.   WE worked on both many times, anything on the drivelines was essentially interchangeable.   Maybe hidden items I did not know, but thats what I remember.

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I bought a 1977 1486 at a farm auction in January of 1991.  It was going to be our big tractor for our first year of farming.  After putting about 15 hours on it that spring, I was driving back to the buildings and the left rear tire started hitting the cab. The axle bearings had gone out.  We got it to the shop and pulled everything off to repair it.  While cleaning out the rear end I looked through to the right side and could see part of the cage sticking out of the axle bearing.  The next wet spell (it was 1991 - we had lots of wet spells in north central Iowa) I tore down the other side.  After that we didn't have anymore axle bearing problems.  In fact, other than a split for IPTO gear and pressure plate repair, that was the only major type repair.  A lot of the things I didn't like were already mentioned.  My favorites were fuel economy and cold starting.  I don't remember why, but I had to start it cold when it was around 10 degrees F.  I tried it without ether and it fired right up, I didn't even have to crank and crank.  I was very impressed with the 436.  Paul

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Well I mentioned my one dislike or dissatisfaction with my 1086,visibility in my operation. But as far as a reliability issues I had none. Here in PA and surrounding basically dairy farm states ( or used to be) I have never heard anything said negative concerning power,reliability etc of the 1086 or any 86 series for that matter. You will see many 1086s on farms all over.Nice ones,wore out ones, ugly,pretty, working ,sitting on sheds,hooked to feed wagons, choppers,generators, manure pumps.Some still main horse but on dairys they are on the smaller,pedal to the metal barely hanging on.Mid size and bigger  have them for odd jobs and were just so reliable that their grandparents bought new and always kept them. They are a very popular tractor,plenty of power for the part time beef guy and like I  said a must for the small dairy guy who only dreams on a new tractor. 

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1 hour ago, Jeff-C-IL said:

OUr 1066 and our 1486 ran exactly the same speed, the tranny & PTO components were the same as well.   WE worked on both many times, anything on the drivelines was essentially interchangeable.   Maybe hidden items I did not know, but thats what I remember.

It looks like the early ones were the same as an 86 but when they upped the HP of the 1066 they did a gear change that also raised the pto speed... Albeit it didn't make any real difference in fuel usage that I can tell. 

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17 hours ago, B.B. said:

Ehh, maybe you shouldn't even consider what I said as I also own one of the other most controversial tractors ever created... 

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You sir are the smartest most educated person on this forum and now you are my idol. When I was young dad had a 1586 he bought new . It had its share of abuse and misuse. He was forced to sell it. Then bought a 966 back as a chore and farming, haying tractor. We bought a 1066 when we started we still have it. Then a 4630 and a 4430 jd.  I always thought the 4430 was a good tractor, we then bought a 1086 and 1586. We sold the JDs and 1086. Kept our current lineup of all IH tractors. 560, non running wheat land 806, 1206, 1256, 1066, 2 1486s, 1586. I really have had the 86 series grow on me. I want to get another 1086 and a dream is to fill out the 2 we 86 lineup. And I want to finish out the 06 possibly the 56 series lineup and obtain a 88 series. But our most prized possession is a bidirectional blue 276. Low hours had a fire under cab and just in process of finishing it up. Will post pictures of the lineup in a year or so. I really don’t have a desire to own a jd anymore other than maybe a 7000 series.

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22 hours ago, ksfarmdude said:

I'd stand on the cab step anyday to fuel the 66 tractors than rack myself trying to step on the three point arms or crawl around some mounted implement on the back 

If I filled my 1486 completely full, it would last me 3 seasons!  So, filling it up is not a concern for me.  😁

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I have a FNH 9030 Bi-Di, and you will pry it out of my cold dead fingers....!   IMO the 9030 was the best of that entire line, it was the final upgrade to the 276 design, the TV is just awkward.  Neighbor has one, and I don't care much for it.

The JD 7410 I run is a very nice tractor.   I still prefer IH/CIH.  

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LOL  Oh Goodness! :) :)

As a kid growing up in rural Southern IN on a small farm with old/worn out Allis and White/Oliver equipment I came to appreciate the newer equipment the neighbor dairy farmer had.    He had a 986 and that's where my life long desire to have a 986 came from.   He also had a new Ford 275 BiDi with a loader as well.   I'd work for him here or there, and get to use his equipment.   

 

My TV140 was owned by an uncle to my best friend growing up.  He bought it but never used it much as he used his 9030 much more in his fence building business.   When the opportunity came that he was willing to sell the TV140 I scraped and saved every penny I could and short of selling my own soul I sold a lot of stuff to get the money together to purchase it.   It currently has about 3,500 hours on it, and has sat for the last year as it's got something really stupid wrong electrically that I just haven't had a chance to look into yet nor have I wanted to haul it to a dealer yet.   Truth be told I don't really need it! :)

 

That same neighbor farmer had mostly White tractors and I was able to use his 2-105 some and he had a 2-150 but I didn't ever run that.   I remember being a kid and that 2-150 was a HUGE tractor.   The thought at the time was no one needed a tractor that big!   I'd like to find a nice 2-135 just cause I like them too.

 

So smart... nahhh... educated, yeah I went to school several times, but at the end of the day I'm just a simple farm kid who just loves tractors.  If I ever won the lotto and didn't have to work I'd buy and work on tractors and you all could come over and play tractors any time!!! 

 

 

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17 hours ago, B.B. said:

Ehh, maybe you shouldn't even consider what I said as I also own one of the other most controversial tractors ever created... 

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I have a tv145 I like it alot just short on power. Always a leak to be fixed. After I bought a 3488 hydro the tv only gets used on the hay mower and loader. I much prefer the 3488 over the tv. 

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16 hours ago, bkorth said:

Just had a thought about the fueling from the rear issue, would the fuel tank from a boxcar magnum fit on an. 86 series? It wouldn't be hard to cut a hole in the fender for the neck, or could you cut a hole in the side of the existing tank for the hose that runs under the fender? Just thinking out loud.

I haven't been up close to many boxcars but that was my first thought when seeing one, one thing that helped fueling any of the 86/88's i've been on was a auto shutoff nozzle, i'm a little taller than most but i can put one in from the ground then let it click and be done never climbed on one since to put fuel in

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19 hours ago, Binderoid said:

The Ford 9700 was available the same time as the 1086. The  1086 was not light years ahead of the 9700. Not a personal attack , just stating the fact.

An IH farmer wasn't considering other brands, though. Deere's Soundgard cab was on its 2nd generation by then too. You can name several cabs that the 86 series was not "light years ahead" of, but when you keep the discussion in-brand, the cab was light years ahead of anything else IH was offering at the time (i.e. the 66 series deluxe cab).

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LOL  until you've wrestled a 5 gallon hydraulic oil bucket that you use for diesel up the back side of an 86 series standing on the 3pt while trying to hold the funnel and not spill any you just haven't lived!  :)

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3 hours ago, B.B. said:

And don't y'all act for one minute like you've never used a 5 gallon hydraulic oil bucket for diesel fuel!   

 

 

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Hytran bucket or yeller-wonder bucket? 

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We have a 1086 with Michelin Agribibs that we use for planting and until we hired out the hauling, we towed our gravity boxes 10 miles to the nearest elevator and my dad and I both think they ride exceptionally well. My buddy also plants with a 1086 and he likes it for that as well. There are also a couple small-medium sized dairy outfits within five miles of me that have several 86 series of various sizes yet. So to me, they are standing up well to the most rigorous and important test, and thats time 

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I mowed 2nd gear high range (factory TA delete tractor) with the 1586 and a 13' center pivot mower . 20.8 duals and 11.00-16 . It rode fine I think

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1 hour ago, bitty said:

I mowed 2nd gear high range (factory TA delete tractor) with the 1586 and a 13' center pivot mower . 20.8 duals and 11.00-16 . It rode fine I think

Radial 23° firestone's at 6 psi for inners and duals 

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