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Followed along the mega dealer thread and it got me thinking was there any independent stand alone dealer south there for both green and red. I know Deere is pushing the mega store thing in its ag line other branches may be the same but around here it’s all corporate organizations. As for the red line last year they pulled a Deere move and pulled the plug on the local red dealer saying the numbers wasn’t there but they were an independent but now there gone. Was just wondering how many if any stand alone guys selling red or green were left out there. 

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In northeast Iowa/southwest Wisconsin/southeast Minnesota, subject to people closer knowing what's going on locally:

standalone CaseIH at Dubuque IA and Altura MN

standalone New Holland at Waukon/New Albin, Fort Atkinson and West Union IA,  Spring Valley MN.  Cashton WI was both C-IH and NH but I think they might be strictly NH now.

standalone C-IH and NH at Caledonia MN

only one standalone JD shop I am aware of, at Preston MN.  Have been told the current owner will keep the contract until they retire then it is to be sold to the big southern MN JD chain dealer

 

 

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25 minutes ago, 234-IA said:

only one standalone JD shop I am aware of, at Preston MN.  Have been told the current owner will keep the contract until they retire then it is to be sold to the big southern MN JD chain dealer

 

Some one correct me if wrong but Keating Tractor in liberal, Ks is still a Deere standalone I believe. 

 

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Beaver machine in Coleman Wisconsin is a stand alone dealer selling case ih, new holland, kubota, and some other short line equipment. Great people to work with. Used to do a lot with Weyers equipment in Kakauna Wisconsin but they were moving more towards the smaller sub compact tractors and turf management equipment, the area they are in really developed so they had to adapt. It got harder to get parts when we needed them but otherwise they were great to work with also

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Our last stand alone red dealer dropped CIH about 6 years ago.  They were forced to.  It wasn’t from the lack of sales.  It was actually the opposite.  They were a thorn in Torgersons side and no doubt with them influencing the higher ups at CNH my dealer had to drop red.  They switched to NH and now the country is filling up with NH combines and tractors.   I have a neighbor who is a long life AF guy buy his first NH combine last year.  Both my Torgersons and my JD dealer own 10 locations.  Really about the stand alone dealers anymore are the AGCO type dealers.  

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  Deere was late to that thinking around here and there is still a single location JD dealer in the area.  Case was the earliest to do the mega dealer concept back in the 1970's with IH right behind them with 2 multi-location dealers but still quite a number of single location dealers.  NH had a bunch of individual dealers go together around the year 2000 and right around that time a couple of JD multi-location dealers rose out of several one location stores going together.  No single location Case IH dealers and just one NH single location dealer.

 

  I forgot about the 3 location Ford dealer down by Syracuse back in the 1970's.  They sold Hesston hay and forage equipment.

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1 hour ago, IHHarvester886 said:

Followed along the mega dealer thread and it got me thinking was there any independent stand alone dealer south there for both green and red. I know Deere is pushing the mega store thing in its ag line other branches may be the same but around here it’s all corporate organizations. As for the red line last year they pulled a Deere move and pulled the plug on the local red dealer saying the numbers wasn’t there but they were an independent but now there gone. Was just wondering how many if any stand alone guys selling red or green were left out there. 

Our local Case dealer lost the Case Construction franchise, they still can service and sell parts for now, otherwise it is Kubota and some implement brands and they may have another equipment brand somewhere. 
with the ever growing Kubota equipment lineup and the ever growing market for homeowner tractors I think they will do fine, but it blows because they were really good. 

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25 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said:

Our last stand alone red dealer dropped CIH about 6 years ago.  They were forced to.  It wasn’t from the lack of sales.  It was actually the opposite.  They were a thorn in Torgersons side and no doubt with them influencing the higher ups at CNH my dealer had to drop red.  They switched to NH and now the country is filling up with NH combines and tractors.   I have a neighbor who is a long life AF guy buy his first NH combine last year.  Both my Torgersons and my JD dealer own 10 locations.  Really about the stand alone dealers anymore are the AGCO type dealers.  

  The AGCO brand is multi-location now spearheaded by Java Farm Supply in WNY.

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I forgot about Dillon Tractor and Implement they are still a single store caseih dealer actually was an old I.H. dealer probably oldest dealer around that hasn’t changed names. Agco has a few dealers scattered around but they are few and far between. Kubota dealers on the other hand are where every old Deere dealer was back in the 80s. 

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The Case IH dealer that I deal with is a one location store. Derr Equipment in Savannah, Mo. It started out as an IH truck and tractor dealer. There is also Gallatin Truck and Tractor in Gallatin, Mo and Lafayette County Truck and Tractor in Higginsville, Mo that are single stores. I don’t know of any single location New Holland or Deere stores within driving distance of me. AGCO is a non factor here. 

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Domeyer Implement, Ellsworth MN. Is the only single location CaseIH dealer in this area. There are some independent owned with 2 or more. There are some single location Agco dealerships and a New Holland dealer in the area.

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The three AGCO dealers I'm aware of in Arkansas are single stores.

Several new holland single stores.

My 'local' cih store is single in CIH but multiple in NH. Kinda odd.

I don't run much green but I'm not aware of any single green stores around.

Lots of Kubota single stores.

Thx-Ace 

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28 minutes ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

The Case IH dealer that I deal with is a one location store. Derr Equipment in Savannah, Mo. It started out as an IH truck and tractor dealer. There is also Gallatin Truck and Tractor in Gallatin, Mo and Lafayette County Truck and Tractor in Higginsville, Mo that are single stores. I don’t know of any single location New Holland or Deere stores within driving distance of me. AGCO is a non factor here. 

I did some parts business with Derr several years ago and I get all of my McCormick parts from Gallatin Truck and Tractor. Lafayette County Truck and Tractor has been purchased recently by Crown Power and Equipment. I'm not sure when the change over will occur.

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13 minutes ago, WishIhada1466 said:

I did some parts business with Derr several years ago and I get all of my McCormick parts from Gallatin Truck and Tractor. Lafayette County Truck and Tractor has been purchased recently by Crown Power and Equipment. I'm not sure when the change over will occur.

Those places are quite a drive from Bland aren’t they? Do you get up into NW MO often?

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Just now, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

Those places are quite a drive from Bland aren’t they? Do you get up into NW MO often?

Yes they are. I used to several years ago. My wife went to college at Northwest. When our local dealer lost the McCormick line the only two places in the state to get McCormick parts were Meyers in Bowling Green and Gallatin T&T. We always gravitated towards Gallatin. There is a new McCormick dealer local to us now but I've been dealing with Gallatin so long that as of right now thats who I will stay with. I just call in my orders and they ship the parts to me. I've never actually been to Gallatin.

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7 minutes ago, WishIhada1466 said:

Yes they are. I used to several years ago. My wife went to college at Northwest. When our local dealer lost the McCormick line the only two places in the state to get McCormick parts were Meyers in Bowling Green and Gallatin T&T. We always gravitated towards Gallatin. There is a new McCormick dealer local to us now but I've been dealing with Gallatin so long that as of right now thats who I will stay with. I just call in my orders and they ship the parts to me. I've never actually been to Gallatin.

Small town with two 3rd generation family owned single store locations Terry Implement and Gallatin T&T

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Lulich Implement in Mason, Wi. Mostly NH they have some Kubota and short lines. Been in business since early 60'd selling Ford and NH then.

DWF

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Local CIH dealer is independent. Albion Equipment Co.  

The local AGCO dealer is also. That is Herschel Johnson Implement. 
 

Local Deere outfit was until a few years ago. They are part of a big conglomerate now. 

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Several independent CaseIH dealers in SD. Some I can think of are:

  • Lamb's in Onida
  • Harry Implement in Ferney(last I knew they handled Massey, too)
  • O'Keefe in DeSmet and Brookings (De Smet has been there selling red equipment since 1916)
  • Scott Supply in Mitchell (dual-brand CaseIh/New Holland dealer)
  • Lake County International in Madison
  • Sioux International in Sioux Falls and Freeman
  • Mark's Machinery in Yankton and Wagner
  • Mathis in Winner

New Holland independents I can think of:

  • Premier Equipment has 4 locations I believe(family-owned)
  • Farmers Implement & Irrigation in Brookings and Watertown
  • Koletzky's in Yankton
  • Kennedy Implement in Phillip

As far as Deere dealers are concerned, all I can think of around here are part of a big chain, although I would say that one could make a valid argument that they are still what I would call "privately owned". Grossenberg's has 8 stores in SD and NE Nebraska, but they are still owned by the Grossenberg family. They advertise themselves as a "family-owned dealership". C & B Operations has 40+ stores the last I knew, they started out as Cronin and Burwell at Gettysburg, SD, which is about an hour & a half NW of me. I'm sure there is a lot of outside $$$ invested in C & B, but they still make the claim that they are locally-owned as well. 

 

As far as AGCO dealerships, there is one about an hour north of me that is still locally owned...for the time being. It was owned by a pair of brothers and located in a town of 60-80 people anymore. Walking into that dealership was like walking into an Oliver/White Farm Equipment dealership back in the 1970s...was always neat to go in there. One brother retired a few years ago and sold out to the other brother....whom died of Covid this past fall. Not sure what the future is for that dealership, seems like maybe there was a kid or two involved in the dealership so hopefully it will be able to continue as a dealership. Think they mainly sell Massey now. 

 

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As for jd local is part of large group, landpro, I believe around 18 stores. Not sure who bought who and who merged in but from what I’ve heard they are one of the most mismanaged in the northeast. 
Not too familiar with the Agco, java farm supply, I know they are at least 3-4 store probably more maybe a lot more. Agco hasn’t been very strong in our county for at least 30 years. 
Now cih/nh it’s little complicated. There is a single cih dealer close, Laporte, but they’ve been dying off for years. I think what has kept them going is low overhead, inherited business from father. They don’t do combines or stigers, and very few magnums, but do have a good short line with grape equipment. Lamb and Webster is 4 store cih and nh but not nh at all stores. Due to territory restrictions they can sell nh parts but not equipment at all stores. When they had two stores it was still lambs and websters owners. As they added stores they brought in investors. I know there are still lambs involved and I believe Websters also but not sure who else. When Laporte decides to retire they will probably just absorb the territory they tried to buy them out 20 some years ago and I think there’s bad blood there. The other nh is 2 store family owned, romance and sons. They are a small thorn in Lamb&Webster side, just big enough to compete. 
I usually go to Lamb&Webster and occasionally go to Laporte but with romance having a store on my way home from work I go there more and more for my hay equipment. 

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7 hours ago, 1256pickett said:

As for jd local is part of large group, landpro, I believe around 18 stores. Not sure who bought who and who merged in but from what I’ve heard they are one of the most mismanaged in the northeast. 
Not too familiar with the Agco, java farm supply, I know they are at least 3-4 store probably more maybe a lot more. Agco hasn’t been very strong in our county for at least 30 years. 
Now cih/nh it’s little complicated. There is a single cih dealer close, Laporte, but they’ve been dying off for years. I think what has kept them going is low overhead, inherited business from father. They don’t do combines or stigers, and very few magnums, but do have a good short line with grape equipment. Lamb and Webster is 4 store cih and nh but not nh at all stores. Due to territory restrictions they can sell nh parts but not equipment at all stores. When they had two stores it was still lambs and websters owners. As they added stores they brought in investors. I know there are still lambs involved and I believe Websters also but not sure who else. When Laporte decides to retire they will probably just absorb the territory they tried to buy them out 20 some years ago and I think there’s bad blood there. The other nh is 2 store family owned, romance and sons. They are a small thorn in Lamb&Webster side, just big enough to compete. 
I usually go to Lamb&Webster and occasionally go to Laporte but with romance having a store on my way home from work I go there more and more for my hay equipment. 

  L & W in Woodhull is NH only.  No Case IH there.  Monroe Tractor bought the SC Hansen dealer chain (Stewart (SC) and Henry (MT) were brothers) of which one location was just west of Hornell, NY that sold Case then Case IH.  The facilities were considered outdated and the territory going into Allegany County somewhat poor so a decision was made to relocate to Campbell which is near I-390 and move the Elmira location there as well.  I went by the old location in Hornell a few times many years ago and it looked like no business was going on there.  No vehicles parked there and the lights off.  In any event I wonder if MT is done down in Steuben County in terms of growth or if they will push to add stores?   LaPorte is in grape country which probably does not fit what L & W wants to do.  I don't have inside information but the talk is there will be more consolidation with these dealers as the dairy business which is the bulk of their business has seen better days.  Stay tuned.

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