IH OAK Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 A thought just occured to me...The D335 and 350 engines were either flush or protruding sleved. Was the difference in the sleeves or the block? Or was it just how you install them? I am asking because I am in the process of buying a set from a member but I want to be sure they will work before He sends them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustred Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 38 minutes ago, IH OAK said: A thought just occured to me...The D335 and 350 engines were either flush or protruding sleved. Was the difference in the sleeves or the block? Or was it just how you install them? I am asking because I am in the process of buying a set from a member but I want to be sure they will work before He sends them. the sleeves are protruding. plus they are pressed in and the standout has to be in spec. from .041 to .049 from top of block to top of sleeve. you probably have to build a puck to pull the old ones out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall 1466 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, IH OAK said: A thought just occured to me...The D335 and 350 engines were either flush or protruding sleved. Was the difference in the sleeves or the block? Or was it just how you install them? I am asking because I am in the process of buying a set from a member but I want to be sure they will work before He sends them. All sleeves are protruding, there is one exception if I remember correctly and that is the 4.5 overbore kit IH offered for the D335, these are flush. All 4.4, IH and aftermarket, are protruding and the 4.5 aftermarket are protruding too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH OAK Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 Okay, when I ordered my head gasket they asked me if it was protruding or flush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH OAK Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, rustred said: the sleeves are protruding. plus they are pressed in and the standout has to be in spec. from .041 to .049 from top of block to top of sleeve. you probably have to build a puck to pull the old ones out. A local machinist friend is going to make one for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FARMALL FIXER Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 hours ago, IH OAK said: A local machinist friend is going to make one for me. Have the machinist make an intallation plate that will give the proper protrusion when intalking the sleeves too . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberta North Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I attached a pic of the puck i got made for removing the 4.4 and 4.5" sleeves. The threaded rod alone couldn't pull them out. Had to heat some. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustred Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 6:03 PM, FARMALL FIXER said: Have the machinist make an intallation plate that will give the proper protrusion when intalking the sleeves too . how does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td9inidaho Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 My understanding with those motors, they are dry sleeves and are to be adhered into place at the appropriate depths. That's the info I went by when I rebuilt my 350 anyhow. Theory has it they can't move up or down that way Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustred Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 9 hours ago, td9inidaho said: My understanding with those motors, they are dry sleeves and are to be adhered into place at the appropriate depths. That's the info I went by when I rebuilt my 350 anyhow. Theory has it they can't move up or down that way Mark exactly...the sleeve flange is bottomed out at the top of the block bore. some had shims to put under the flange to get the height on all correct. plus the fire ring on the head gasket is holding and sealing once torqued. just curious what is other tool is other than a dial indicator or feeler gauges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH OAK Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 10:56 AM, rustred said: exactly...the sleeve flange is bottomed out at the top of the block bore. some had shims to put under the flange to get the height on all correct. plus the fire ring on the head gasket is holding and sealing once torqued. just curious what is other tool is other than a dial indicator or feeler gauges. So the sleeves DO have a flange on the top? I don't need the installation ring suggested by @FARMALL FIXER??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustred Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 6:45 PM, IH OAK said: So the sleeves DO have a flange on the top? I don't need the installation ring suggested by @FARMALL FIXER??? yes they have a top flange. , no u dont need anything else. makes me wonder if these guys that post stuff have had their hands on what they are talking about., cause i have no idea what that is and asked then things go dead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td9inidaho Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 My understanding some gaskets/fire rings covered the liners, others did not, there for the ridge on the liner was the holding factor between the head and block. This be why the liners were "glued" to the block upon installation so they never migrated up and down. Yes they have flanges to set to the block. And as others have said shims available to make sure they seat high enough to meet specs, the glued in part many are not speaking of. No big deal to me, just adding to the FYI pile Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJFarmsWA Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 My TD-9 that we have apart, is the D335 with the 4.5 pistons and the flush mount. We are trying to rebuild, but when we had the block dip’d we found out that it has a crack in it. So, can you identify from looking at an engine, if it has the flush mount or not? As, I already sourced pistons, liners and gaskets, for the 4.5 flush mount, and am now searching for a block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH OAK Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 10:10 PM, rustred said: yes they have a top flange. , no u dont need anything else. makes me wonder if these guys that post stuff have had their hands on what they are talking about., cause i have no idea what that is and asked then things go dead. Unfortunately, the plate is probably already made...waiting for me to go pay for it...I haven't heard back yet from the machine shop yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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