sandhiller Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Debated whether or not to post this. But what the heck, I've done worse................. It is not my build, I purchased it from a salvage yard that bought it to to knock it in the head and part it out. Lucky (for me) he decided to sell it as is. I would like to meet the gentleman that built it. I think it was well thought out and executed. Here it is loaded up at the salvage yard, ready to head home. It's intended purpose was to save Mother's back tossing bags.😉 She is not the spring chicken she once was.🧓🏻😅 Exhaust looks like it was added later and not up to the caliber of the rest of the build. Think I will move it in and back behind the hyd res. It has a Chevy 250 six motor that runs well. The gear shift is a little wonky but works ok. Not sure if there is a better way. Weight box keeps back end down with a ton of feed up front. Hyd pump mounted to crank for live power. Electric fan handles cooling now. The chain drive is a little noisy, maybe a new chain will help some? The controls are all within reach, clutch, one brake and foot throttle. I think she will be happy with her new home here in the Sandhills. Won't have to work too hard and will provide a smile and a chuckle to all that sees her. Well, there she is boys. Threw my hat over the fence. Hope it don't get stepped on by too many! 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On the chain drive if you try some spray chain lube on the inside edge of the chain it could help ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 8 hours ago, bitty said: On the chain drive if you try some spray chain lube on the inside edge of the chain it could help ? Yessir, inside and out with the NH chain lube that I use on the baler. It helped. I think most of the noise is coming from the chain being fairly worn out. I like @Gearclash idea of using O-ring chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, sandhiller said: Yessir, inside and out with the NH chain lube that I use on the baler. It helped. I think most of the noise is coming from the chain being fairly worn out. I like @Gearclash idea of using O-ring chain. Still use spray on lube designed for the O-ring chains . I forget the brand I used 30 years ago on the quad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, bitty said: Still use spray on lube designed for the O-ring chains . I forget the brand I used 30 years ago on the quad Good idea, I think I still have a can of the stuff I used on the XR600 when I had it around for well checkin' duty. Some of the others can eat through the orings pretty quick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markd Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 12 hours ago, sandhiller said: Debated whether or not to post this. But what the heck, I've done worse................. It is not my build, I purchased it from a salvage yard that bought it to to knock it in the head and part it out. Lucky (for me) he decided to sell it as is. I would like to meet the gentleman that built it. I think it was well thought out and executed. Here it is loaded up at the salvage yard, ready to head home. It's intended purpose was to save Mother's back tossing bags.😉 She is not the spring chicken she once was.🧓🏻😅 Exhaust looks like it was added later and not up to the caliber of the rest of the build. Think I will move it in and back behind the hyd res. It has a Chevy 250 six motor that runs well. The gear shift is a little wonky but works ok. Not sure if there is a better way. Weight box keeps back end down with a ton of feed up front. Hyd pump mounted to crank for live power. Electric fan handles cooling now. The chain drive is a little noisy, maybe a new chain will help some? The controls are all within reach, clutch, one brake and foot throttle. I think she will be happy with her new home here in the Sandhills. Won't have to work too hard and will provide a smile and a chuckle to all that sees her. Well, there she is boys. Threw my hat over the fence. Hope it don't get stepped on by too many! Boy I think you really scored on that one! I like it, my tractor wreckin yard won't let anything go unless it's piece by piece!! I tried to buy a cherry 656 not a scratch on it but they wouldn't budge no how no way I could take off anything I wanted but can't have it whole disgraceful in my book!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 41 minutes ago, markd said: Boy I think you really scored on that one! I like it, my tractor wreckin yard won't let anything go unless it's piece by piece!! I tried to buy a cherry 656 not a scratch on it but they wouldn't budge no how no way I could take off anything I wanted but can't have it whole disgraceful in my book!! Thinking getting her out of there "one piece at a time"🎸 Seriously sad though, money is money, what do they care how it leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny bill o Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 that looks like a True Survivor, even with it modified. Great catch! I like! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomorejohndeere Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 That's pretty cool On the chain I'll say I put a cheap chain on my dual sport because I had always used them on my dirtbikes and never had an issue and I'm cheap. I was so glad when that noisy azz thing wore out and I had to put on a new chain and sprockets. I went with o-ring and its worth it. Notice I said chain AND sprockets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 5 hours ago, nomorejohndeere said: That's pretty cool On the chain I'll say I put a cheap chain on my dual sport because I had always used them on my dirtbikes and never had an issue and I'm cheap. I was so glad when that noisy azz thing wore out and I had to put on a new chain and sprockets. I went with o-ring and its worth it. Notice I said chain AND sprockets. IF you end up having to change sprockets then is the best time to revisit what size chain you want to run . Don't make O-ring but double 60 is stronger than 60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Nice score, owner was very thorough on frankenfork, I think you might be able to rework the shifter, not sure how close it comes to sheet metal in 1st and reverse, can't think this is a high speed unit anyway, are those 13x24 grader tires that size is getting harder to find? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Hillbilly Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Very cool! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, hardtail said: are those 13x24 grader tires that size is getting harder to find? I think it will be 28" rubber. My F30 has 13-28. If I would have gotten the 300U a few months different I would have partied it out for the new old stock Kelly Springfield 14.9-28 on it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 2 hours ago, hardtail said: Nice score, owner was very thorough on frankenfork, I think you might be able to rework the shifter, not sure how close it comes to sheet metal in 1st and reverse, can't think this is a high speed unit anyway, are those 13x24 grader tires that size is getting harder to find? 'Frankenfork" 😄 I like it☺️ Shifter will touch sheet metal in 1-R. If you zoom in that pic you can see where. It's either reach under the steering wheel or over. Neither is real handy but I ain't running this thing for hours on end so shortcomings isn't that much of a bother. I will piddle with it when I get time see if I can make it better. My Willmar Wrangler with Hydro and F-R pedals is much handier. Will get it going again when back/neck gets better Not sure how fast fourth is. Third has been fast enough for around the place. 1 hour ago, bitty said: I think it will be 28" rubber. My F30 has 13-28. If I would have gotten the 300U a few months different I would have partied it out for the new old stock Kelly Springfield 14.9-28 on it Tires aren't bad, should last awhile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just Dave Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 if it picks a pallet and starts well that's a win . It is really amazing what you can put togather with a big boy erector set. I'll bet it has built in theft protection too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, just Dave said: bet it has built in theft protection too. If you over choke it. You ain't leaving on it for awhile 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Hmmmmmm! I have an F30 with a stuck engine, a 345 v8 out of an 815, and a forklift mast laying around..... Bwhahaha! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 11 minutes ago, nepoweshiekfarmalls said: Hmmmmmm! I have an F30 with a stuck engine, a 345 v8 out of an 815, and a forklift mast laying around..... Bwhahaha! Sounds like a marriage made in heaven 😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Ragnor on here made one out of a W4 and called it Fourlift, anyway he did a nice job but a bit different than your setup, I seem to recall the had to put the ring gear on the opposite side to get the forward gears and reverse swapped, do you know what previous owner did here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 On 1/4/2022 at 4:17 PM, hardtail said: Ragnor on here made one out of a W4 and called it Fourlift, anyway he did a nice job but a bit different than your setup, I seem to recall the had to put the ring gear on the opposite side to get the forward gears and reverse swapped, do you know what previous owner did here? Have no idea what someone did to get gears reversed. I dumped a can of gas in it and put it to work. Really need to learn more about it. Like how to get the cover/cap off so I can get to the rad cap to check coolant. Wingnut turns almost 180 and looking for notch? to line up but no luck so far. I have learned from engine casting number it is a GM 250 made from 1964 to 1972. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 9 hours ago, sandhiller said: If you over choke it. You ain't leaving on it for awhile 🤣 Probably most degenerates out causing problems wouldn’t know how to start anything with a carburetor these days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brockpend Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 1/4/2022 at 2:01 PM, nepoweshiekfarmalls said: Hmmmmmm! I have an F30 with a stuck engine, a 345 v8 out of an 815, and a forklift mast laying around..... Bwhahaha! Relax, wouldn’t want a machine of such power to get into the wrong hands lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12_Guy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 1/4/2022 at 8:45 PM, sandhiller said: Really need to learn more about it. Like how to get the cover/cap off so I can get to the rad cap to check coolant. Wingnut turns almost 180 and looking for notch? to line up but no luck so far. I would assume that the differential was flipped to get the gears backwards. I don't even know if it is possible, but it seems like the only convenient way to get there. It looks to be using the F-20 radiator. The cap held on by the wing nut is the only cap. It is not pressurized. The wing nut is actually a bolt that threads into a bar across the opening. You loosen it a couple of turns and then lift the cap and shift it sideways to clear the hole with the bar and then lift it out. I hope that your bolt is not rusted tight in the bar. If so hopefully you can lift the lid enough to shift it and get it removed. For the shifter, you may want to consider cutting the shifter short and adding another shifter close to the operator. You can connect the two levers with some linkage. I think some orchard tractors used that setup. O-4, O-6 for example if l remember correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 32 minutes ago, 12_Guy said: hope that your bolt is not rusted tight in the bar. That is what it acts like. Now that I know how it works, I will mess with it some more. What little bit I will be running this, shifter is ok for now. Will have to find some pics of the "O" linkage setup, sounds interesting. Sure there is a better way than what it is. Thanks for the advice Mark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12_Guy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I was looking for orchard shift linkage with not much luck. I think I am probably wrong. It may have been a cotton picker or something else. It basically is a short shifter with a "universal joint" on its top. The dummy shifter is mounted closer to the operator with another universal joint at the same height on the shifter. The shifters are connected with a shaft that is bent to fit and connected to the universals. It allows you to move the shifter forward and back and to twist it left or right. The real benefit is that you end up with a standard length shift lever without excessively long "throws". I hope that my description makes sense. You can spray loose juice below the wing and it should follow the bolt on down into the nut. I hope it helps. If you end up twisting it off, don't worry. Replacement caps are available from used parts vendors or you can get a new square nut to install in the stamped steel bar and install a hex bolt in place of the wing bolt. Not original but functional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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