mmi Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 what makes this rare vs difficult due to abuse and ventilated blocks. I do not agree with the statements,according to old data from various "official" sources any one have new info to share on the 340 (depending pc) 14-20 sub groups>? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH Forever Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I don't have the serial number data in front of me, but I don't think it separates gas vs. diesel. So I can not confirm or deny the statements made. I've always considered them unusual, maybe not rare as you just don't see very many of the Farmall 340 diesels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Mr. Gilbert may be a little loose with the facts. I will leave it at that. The Farmall 340 diesel is unusual, but they are out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Farmer Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Does any one know how wide is the bar grill part on a 340 ? Outside measurement, 18,19 or so. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Rusty_Farmer said: Does any one know how wide is the bar grill part on a 340 ? Outside measurement, 18,19 or so. Thanks dont have one handy this piece...? should be the same 1-2-340...maybe 460 https://www.ebay.com/itm/373116118162?hash=item56df742492:g:Op4AAOSwxXFfDue4 ,beware all those ads are whale/scammers that want more $$$ than "they" paid for whole tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 What statements don't you agree with? I watched the whole thing and didn't hear too many "statements" being made other than a production number of 157. 157 doesn't sound right to me, but I know they didn't make 1000's of the 340 diesels. If a production run of a few hundred at most is not "rare," then what is? Must be the forum definition of rare, where if you're buying nothing's rare, and if you're selling then everything's rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 34 minutes ago, Matt Kirsch said: What statements don't you agree with? I watched the whole thing and didn't hear too many "statements" being made other than a production number of 157. 157 doesn't sound right to me, but I know they didn't make 1000's of the 340 diesels. If a production run of a few hundred at most is not "rare," then what is? Must be the forum definition of rare, where if you're buying nothing's rare, and if you're selling then everything's rare. Thats exactly how it was sold,chummed a HUNGRY whale. And to live the delusion of not being (stung on the "rare" ),keep the story alive I would expect RPM has more in Sallies files for high /low # I am waiting for some one with facts OTHER/different than I have found,as they were indeed certainly xxx+ plenty of 340 sub specific models were <175 340DO rare 340DHC./CR/HU extra rare 340 propane/lp super rare as only in MS or TX by dealer melrose? / engine production stats would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eason Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I believe Wilson Gatewood told me they made 500 of each Farmalls and utilities. I personally know of 3 within 50 miles of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 19 hours ago, mmi said: Thats exactly how it was sold,chummed a HUNGRY whale. And to live the delusion of not being (stung on the "rare" ),keep the story alive I would expect RPM has more in Sallies files for high /low # I am waiting for some one with facts OTHER/different than I have found,as they were indeed certainly xxx+ plenty of 340 sub specific models were <175 340DO rare 340DHC./CR/HU extra rare 340 propane/lp super rare as only in MS or TX by dealer melrose? / engine production stats would be nice "Facts" in terms of accurate production numbers, do not exist for 98%+ of the tractors IH produced. That info was either never recorded or was destroyed. Supposedly you can pay to get that information on your Deere tractor from some company. I call BS. They just sell you a fancy certificate to make you think you've got something special. Every tractor is some one-of-one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bud guy Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt Kirsch said: "Facts" in terms of accurate production numbers, do not exist for 98%+ of the tractors IH produced. That info was either never recorded or was destroyed. So then do you think that 1066 sitting in Fort Benton is the actual 5 millionth tractor. I don't think so. I think they just picked a tractor to call the 5 millionth after they were sure they got close or past that number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Big Bud guy said: So then do you think that 1066 sitting in Fort Benton is the actual 5 millionth tractor. I don't think so. I think they just picked a tractor to call the 5 millionth after they were sure they got close or past that number. Exact? Probably not. Close? Sure. We're talking about the 1970's here going back to the 1920's, from long before computers to the infancy of computer inventory tracking. If they were to start over at tractor #1 in this day and age with all the computerized nit-picking there would be no excuse for being spot on down to the last nut, but in that half-century I wouldn't doubt them being off by a few tractors here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 20 hours ago, Matt Kirsch said: "Facts" in terms of accurate production numbers, do not exist for 98%+ of the tractors IH produced. That info was either never recorded or was destroyed. Supposedly you can pay to get that information on your Deere tractor from some company. I call BS. They just sell you a fancy certificate to make you think you've got something special. Every tractor is some one-of-one. It’s my understanding that there are some pretty decent records for Deere tractors from two cylinders up to the nineties that are available. There are not records about how many two cylinders had a roll-o-matic front end or had dual hydraulics which is what I hear people ask all the time. And they want to know what dealer sold it new, which also is not possible to know. How many of each engine type was made in each model and the chassis type are known and were recorded from Deere archives and those numbers are out there as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said: It’s my understanding that there are some pretty decent records for Deere tractors from two cylinders up to the nineties that are available. There are not records about how many two cylinders had a roll-o-matic front end or had dual hydraulics which is what I hear people ask all the time. And they want to know what dealer sold it new, which also is not possible to know. How many of each engine type was made in each model and the chassis type are known and were recorded from Deere archives and those numbers are out there as far as I know. Yet some company will gladly sell you an official looking certificate with ALL that information... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNY Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 5:44 AM, Eason said: I believe Wilson Gatewood told me they made 500 of each Farmalls and utilities. I personally know of 3 within 50 miles of me. Wilson owned one at one point not sure if he still does. I bought the wide front from him to put on the 340 I bought from Easy Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eason Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, ChrisNY said: Wilson owned one at one point not sure if he still does. I bought the wide front from him to put on the 340 I bought from Easy Bob. Chris IIRC Wilson owns 1 of each a Farmall and Utility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planejeff Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I'm not sure about the serial numbers being separated by the fuels. International Harvester seems like they didn't care to get that specific. Just the beginning and end of the production numbers in the years of the model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, planejeff said: I'm not sure about the serial numbers being separated by the fuels. International Harvester seems like they didn't care to get that specific. Just the beginning and end of the production numbers in the years of the model. engine is noted in s # but I or F are separate have 16 factory sub models marked out so far melrose info and sales ads would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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