New Englander Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 My ancient dump truck has 9.00-20 tube type on Dayton lock ring rims. I'd like to get away from the lock rings as some tire shops don't like to deal with them and although I can change them I'm just not up to the bull work anymore. I even had some kid say "those are split rims and illegal". No, they're not split rims and they're not illegal, they're lock ring and just a pain. Back in the day there were no tubeless and we wrestled with lock rings and inflation cages. Anyway, a little research suggests that 22.5 Dayton rims will work on my spoke wheels. I'd like to confirm that. There are way more 22.5s out there in good used condition. My truck has steer tires all around and I chain it up for my wife to use to plow the drive when I'm on the road. The trouble with that is once chained the truck is single purpose. Having a good traction type may let me leave the chains off. Another question: 10R22.5 seems to be the direct exchange for 9.00-20. I've found lots of 11R22.5s for sale. They're just a little taller but I wonder about width. The 9.00-20s run close to the springs - the chains sometimes lightly hit. Could the 11R22.5 run too close even without chains? I think the 9.00-20s are an oversize as it is. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy WP Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I can measure the width of the 11/22.5. A metric or low profile might serve you better. The old digger truck I had up north had 8.25/20 on it. Couldn’t find any of them, but there were some 11-20 already mounted on an auction. Put them on, no problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jass1660 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Low pro 22.5’s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihrondiesel Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Yes the 22.5 rims will fit your Dayton hubs, seen it many times. My advice would be to talk to a tire dealer about mounting some junk 11R22.5’s so you can see how they fit the truck before you buy new ones. Or like @jass1660 said have them mount up some 295/75R22.5’s and try those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyredfan Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I switched to low pro 22.5 on my old gmc. And they rubbed the springs to bad so put old 20s back on. School bus tires would be a option also 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1586 Jeff Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 10R22.5 would be the modern equivalent of a 9.00-20. 10R22.5 is a very common school bus tire size. How many dozen would you like? I can fix you up with rims as well that will bolt right on. The hardest part will be getting the old rims off of the spikes if they are at all rusty!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 spacer kit like we had to get for SS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 We went to 11.00-22.5 on the front of the old dump truck from 10.00-20. Should be no issue getting them, they are about as common as crack heads, they might be a little tall for your truck, but depending on engine/gearing , that could be beneficial . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 hours ago, 1586 Jeff said: 10R22.5 would be the modern equivalent of a 9.00-20. 10R22.5 is a very common school bus tire size. How many dozen would you like? I can fix you up with rims as well that will bolt right on. The hardest part will be getting the old rims off of the spikes if they are at all rusty!!! Ha! Thanks, Shipping probably would be tough😄. I'm going to visit the truck salvage yard. Sadly the Portsmouth one closed some years back as the land value skyrocketed. There's one a few towns away. I found some 11R22.5 on FB marketplace but no good looking 10R22.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, vtfireman85 said: We went to 11.00-22.5 on the front of the old dump truck from 10.00-20. Should be no issue getting them, they are about as common as crack heads, they might be a little tall for your truck, but depending on engine/gearing , that could be beneficial . Yeah, I think the 11s would be too big and might hit the springs. I think the truck may have had 8.25s originally. I noticed the speedometer reads a couple miles low compared to GPS. I don't go over 55 anyway. My C70 has 11.00-20s but I think this C60 started with 8.25s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 hour ago, mmi said: spacer kit like we had to get for SS? That concerns me too. I think going the junk yard route is best as they will have the spacers as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I can't run 10.00x20 tires on my 1600 loadstars because they rub the bed when loaded and are awful close to the springs, or did they hit??? Anyway, 11r22.5 are common for Daytons but 10r22.5 are rare round here. I'm kinda in the same boat... I just cleaned and painted two rims for new 9.00x20 tires. When I buy new 9.00x20 tires they last me for decades. Thx-Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHandJDman Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 We switched the 9.00x20 Daytons to 11 22.5 radials on our grain truck. They are taller but did clear our C60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, acem said: I can't run 10.00x20 tires on my 1600 loadstars because they rub the bed when loaded and are awful close to the springs, or did they hit??? Anyway, 11r22.5 are common for Daytons but 10r22.5 are rare round here. I'm kinda in the same boat... I just cleaned and painted two rims for new 9.00x20 tires. When I buy new 9.00x20 tires they last me for decades. Thx-Ace Ace, When I bought this truck it had six new Michelins on it. I'll never wear them out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
int 504 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Someone in Mason,N.H. is advertising used truck tires and wheels on Craigs. They have a lot of them in the pictures. I don't know how far that is from you. As far as the tire chains rubbing I often run just single wheel chains on the outside tires. Drive the inners up on some 2 x's and install chains on outers and you are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missouri Mule Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/27/2021 at 8:04 AM, ihrondiesel said: Yes the 22.5 rims will fit your Dayton hubs, seen it many times. My advice would be to talk to a tire dealer about mounting some junk 11R22.5’s so you can see how they fit the truck before you buy new ones. Or like @jass1660 said have them mount up some 295/75R22.5’s and try those. My top kick dump truck this is what I did. 295's are readily available and yes they are on dayton wheels. I took off a set of Firestone 9.00/20's. Side by side they are almost the same height. My thing is with an old gas truck I didn't want to lose power to a taller tire. Need all I can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Missouri Mule said: My top kick dump truck this is what I did. 295's are readily available and yes they are on dayton wheels. I took off a set of Firestone 9.00/20's. Side by side they are almost the same height. My thing is with an old gas truck I didn't want to lose power to a taller tire. Need all I can get. Thanks for that. Yeah, my truck is no powerhouse - it's old and 55 is fine with me. I've become more patient on the road, except with red light runners who get a blast of horn from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missouri Mule Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, New Englander said: Thanks for that. Yeah, my truck is no powerhouse - it's old and 55 is fine with me. I've become more patient on the road, except with red light runners who get a blast of horn from me. If your driving limited miles and on a budget I have found matching recap drives for very reasonable. I think the last set of matched tires I ran were like $100 each and they were still probably 70% tread. Now I know retreads aren't for everyone. Properly inflated I've had no issues yet. Maybe my day is coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missouri Mule Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/27/2021 at 7:10 AM, New Englander said: My ancient dump truck has 9.00-20 tube type on Dayton lock ring rims. I'd like to get away from the lock rings as some tire shops don't like to deal with them and although I can change them I'm just not up to the bull work anymore. I even had some kid say "those are split rims and illegal". No, they're not split rims and they're not illegal, they're lock ring and just a pain. Back in the day there were no tubeless and we wrestled with lock rings and inflation cages. Anyway, a little research suggests that 22.5 Dayton rims will work on my spoke wheels. I'd like to confirm that. There are way more 22.5s out there in good used condition. My truck has steer tires all around and I chain it up for my wife to use to plow the drive when I'm on the road. The trouble with that is once chained the truck is single purpose. Having a good traction type may let me leave the chains off. Another question: 10R22.5 seems to be the direct exchange for 9.00-20. I've found lots of 11R22.5s for sale. They're just a little taller but I wonder about width. The 9.00-20s run close to the springs - the chains sometimes lightly hit. Could the 11R22.5 run too close even without chains? I think the 9.00-20s are an oversize as it is. TIA Said dump truck with 295/75/22.5's on dayton wheels. Truck came with 9.00-20 lock ring wheels. I picked up the rims for $50 each. As you can see my fronts haven't been changed yet. I had new steer tires and I'm waiting for them to wear first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I think the last 9.00x20 tires were just over $200 new. I can install them myself. Getting the old ones broken down can be a problem with 30+ year old tires though.Thx-Ace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missouri Mule Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, acem said: I think the last 9.00x20 tires were just over $200 new. I can install them myself. Getting the old ones broken down can be a problem with 30+ year old tires though.Thx-Ace Must of been some time ago ACE. The cheapest no name tires I can find are like $300 now for drives. I was looking for 10R's for the back of the truck above. My dealer told me if I can get by without for a while do so. They increased so much recently he said it was horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Missouri Mule said: If your driving limited miles and on a budget I have found matching recap drives for very reasonable. I think the last set of matched tires I ran were like $100 each and they were still probably 70% tread. Now I know retreads aren't for everyone. Properly inflated I've had no issues yet. Maybe my day is coming. I doubt I put 1000 miles a year on my truck. It mostly hauls stone for our drive, less now that half is paved, wood chips and mulched leaves to the transfer station during fall cleanup or if I trim any trees, and plows the drive. I used to haul logs for firewood but no more. I've got no problem with caps on the drive wheels, especially at the speeds I drive it. It's a '79. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Another example of the character of the company here: @1586 Jeff offered to bring some take-off all the way from upstate NY to NH. Thanks again, Jeff, for that offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyredfan Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 just did it to my buddies truck yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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