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10 minutes ago, dannyredfan said:

Where can I find that     I ordered one a while back from ASAP or abalen don’t remember.  But they sent my money back, said they didn’t have any. And was unsure when they would get any. 

https://andersontractorinc.com/product/new-ih-farmall-dual-pto-conversion-kit-amx59104/

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5 hours ago, Jim J said:

The short shaft PTO's are out of the 706, 756 & 826 tractors. Do your research before you post. 

He asked if he could take a 1000 rpm 5288 pto, dual shaft 806? pto and assemble a 5288 dual shaft without any more parts.

Quite simply he needs more parts, as I stated.

Please read the original question before posting rude replies!

Thx-Ace 

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30 minutes ago, acem said:

He asked if he could take a 1000 rpm 5288 pto, dual shaft 806? pto and assemble a 5288 dual shaft without any more parts.

Quite simply he needs more parts, as I stated.

Please read the original question before posting rude replies!

Thx-Ace 

Quite correct Ace. Little in common between the two. 

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Dont necessarily need 540 except for backup tractor for haybine. The 52 lives on the haybuster tub grinder, it pulls great but does kinda of a squeal when pto first engages. I've always idled it down before disengaging pto, but it takes 15 seconds plus to wind down, even at idle. I'm guessing brakes are getting thin. Was just wondering if parts would interchange when I rebuilt pto. Thanks for the replies, Robert 

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7 hours ago, Ihfarms said:

May I ask what baler you have? We have switched some of ours over to match our tractors in time because of this 

If you're asking me- I have a New Holland rb560. 

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On 12/12/2021 at 12:19 PM, Gearclash said:

In addition to the cost switching to the 1000 RPM components, your long term operating cost will go up as the 1000 PTO CV on those balers has about 60% the life of the 540 PTO CV and the 1000 will cause more vibration when it begins to loosen up.  You will be money ahead in the long run to make 540 available on your tractor.

Exactly the worst thing we ever did was switch our 8480 caseih baler to 1000 rpm shaft . The new shaft lasted half as many bales. Our other JD 567 was 1000 pto and our 567 now is 540. With 1486 on front 1400 rpm everything is just quiet and smooth. We never bale at full throttle nice and easy gets more done in a day.

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My 5288 was already converted to dual speed when I bought it. And your original picture, yes that is a short 1000 shaft. Take it out and throw it as far as you can and buy a new one so your implement shafts will lock on correctly. You will have to make a gasket also to go between the housings. Neither of the gaskets for the 5288 or an older 06-66 series will work. I thought at one time devons tractor parts offered a gasket just for that. Here is a picture of the gasket I made ready to be assembled to the front housing.

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I've noticed more and more that farmers are using much larger tractors for smaller PTO jobs , While its convenient to have both rpm shafts My larger tractors 130hp + never see any 540 pto use here My round baler is 540  and is ran with a 100hp tractor and does a great job , Everything else is 1000 Just my thinking on this subject

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12 hours ago, Super A_sepa said:

Im pretty sure Ag Parts has the gasket for between the housings.

Ag Parts LTD? I have an account with them if that's the case. 

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I've done this conversion using the 06-86 series rear covers. 2  mounting holes  are different locations 1 hole can just be drilled in the rear cover. The other hole needs the casting welded up then drilled as there isn't any metal where the hole needs to be. The aftermarket rear covers weren't available years ago and the IH ones were pricey. I can't remember if the 50 series 1000 shaft is larger at the the end that goes into the needle bearing in the input shaft or if that is just the magnums are larger.   Also the 2 806s I grew up with had the short 1000 shaft in them.

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15 hours ago, Super A_sepa said:

Yes. I put several of them together in the last year or so and never had to make a gasket.

 

So was it a gasket for the 06-66 series or 50 series or something else? 

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On 12/23/2021 at 4:41 AM, Super A_sepa said:

It was for the 50 series and early magnums. 

 

http://www.agpartsltd.com/shopping/productDetails.aspx?i=1052700

Pretty sure I tried a gasket like the one they show in that link you sent and it wouldn't work with my 06/66 style outer housing. You can see the difference in the one I cut and the one on their site in the lower RH part of the picture. 

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2 hours ago, 1967806 said:

Pretty sure I tried a gasket like the one they show in that link you sent and it wouldn't work with my 06/66 style outer housing. You can see the difference in the one I cut and the one on their site in the lower RH part of the picture. 

So yours has an 06/66 style rear cover on the 88 center housing? 

Interesting

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21 hours ago, Super A_sepa said:

So yours has an 06/66 style rear cover on the 88 center housing? 

Interesting

Yep, and it's been modified like previously mentioned in this thread by someone in its previous life. 

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3 hours ago, 1967806 said:

Yep, and it's been modified like previously mentioned in this thread by someone in its previous life. 

Ok I missed that part then.  That makes sense why you had to make a gasket.       Looks like your cover was done nicely and the gasket looks good!

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On 12/27/2021 at 7:34 PM, Super A_sepa said:

Ok I missed that part then.  That makes sense why you had to make a gasket.       Looks like your cover was done nicely and the gasket looks good!

Well, I learned something on this thread too. I've always noticed my cover had been welded. I always thought it was from someone taking a pry bar to it trying to get it apart with a bolt left in it. The stuff I've found on this tractor since I've had it amazes me. King of cobble was their name I think. 

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I don't know if you tackled this yet but today I converted my 5488 from large 1000 to 2 speed using the shafts and idler gear out of a 1066 hydro and a new cover from abilene machine.  The only issue I ran into was that the 540 shaft would go too far toward the rear of the case and the gear would rub on the rear cover.  I shimmed behind the 540 bearing with a .010 shim and it fit perfectly that way.

I also had to use the clutch drum from the 1066 unit because the snap ring clearance was wrong using the 5488 drum.  Unfortunately I had to ditch a friction disc doing this because the 1066 drum wasn't as deep as the 5488 drum. I think it will be fine as long as I don't try to shovel all 200hp down it.

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