brian falcone Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Well...here it is. The backstory is it came from a municipality in maine...was purchased by a landowner in mass. He used it sporadically. Eventually bought a backhoe snd tje dozer dat after batteries died 8 years ago. They tried moving it last year after rebuilding starter....it turned but wouldnt fire. He show me video of it cranking. Said start is possibly turning the wrong way ??? Anyway the starter does nothing now but he said it would run. Hour meter shows 0970 hours so I'm guessing it's broken. Said machine rolled freely with no popping from finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mike newman Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 ...well, track chains are never going to be a worry for you...they are so little used that the yellow paint is still showing ....I realise that is quite obvious !!!..but great to see ...blower fan is unusual,,,but very good having a blower fan on those old tractors......tractor looks really tidy.... ..as noted before, the ''loader '' frame adds another very negative dimension to serviceing cluches and brakes...but ..to me... the way the under carriage looks....a small price to pay !! Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 looks like nice find so far.long frame twin roller... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Might have a couple seized pins, looks great does it have 4 in 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 https://slo.craigslist.org/grq/d/soledad-international-harvester-td-dozer/7412249597.html https://sacramento.craigslist.org/grd/d/td-short-block/7410677279.html https://fargo.craigslist.org/grd/d/foxhome-1952-international-td6-crawler/7413042345.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Beale Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 In the first photo of the front idler - it looks like there has been welding on the bottom of the idler slide? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 No 4 in 1...standard bucket with teeth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 The strip of round bar welded to the idler mounts are on both sides...wear plating perhaps ? Theres mo cracks,no welds, no missing bolts, not even a dent or bend on the entire machine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Nice looking little machine. It's a keeper for sure. I had a starter rebuilt once and it was turning backwards when I got it back. This has happened once in 40 years of wrenching but, it can happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just Dave Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Looks like a solid find. @mike newmanThe blower fan could have given someone the idea that the motor was cranking backwards? It pushes air through instead of pulling. @Ian Beale has a sharp eye. That is a lot of stitch weld for a small round rod. I would guess some sort of Idea for a small attachment of some kind??? Good luck with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Ian Beale said: In the first photo of the front idler - it looks like there has been welding on the bottom of the idler slide? Good eye, think normal is bolted on but I don't see holes on the upper casting to accommodate this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 Now im curious as the what it is. The machine will hopefully be deliever next week. I'll have to look at that and see what's going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 In The video of it cranking the fan is turning clockwise when looking at the tractor from the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustred Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, brian falcone said: In The video of it cranking the fan is turning clockwise when looking at the tractor from the front. that is the correct rotation of most engines. rotation is actually viewed as sitting on the machine, or viewed from the rear of the engine. so its called counterclockwise rotation, and it turning correctly. . i see he has the fan blowing out the rad also. should be a good little unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Beale Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 9 hours ago, brian falcone said: The strip of round bar welded to the idler mounts are on both sides...wear plating perhaps ? Theres mo cracks,no welds, no missing bolts, not even a dent or bend on the entire machine IIRC The sliders on those had no provision for taking up wear in the slot. And, from experience, if you let it get too big with too much free play then you ran into the adjustment screw breaking. And , if you made a better screw. it could transmit down the line and break recoil spring bolts and the retaining studs that hold the front recoil housing to the track frame. As the rest of it shows little wear I guess that modification poses an interesting "Why" Hardtail - The early ones were one piece and the bolted ones came later - I saw pictures but never a live one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td9bcf180 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 You are sure that the front idler brackets are solid castings with the edges/lip not broken off at some time? Hard to tell from the picture but maybe the welded rod has patched back together a broken edge? I only say this because going up and over a log/stone whatever- if you go too hard you can break these outer front idlers off at the edge exactly where the rod is welded in your picture. (I know- I did this 40+ years ago when I knew nothing about dozers and crashed over a log and broke both front idlers off. Mind you, it was 25 below at the time). I can't tell that from your picture but you will know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 I'll have a look when it gets here.im wondering that too...if it broke them it was repaired 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just Dave Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Keep us posted to this interesting mystery. The stitch welded round rod does not seem substantial enough to be a repair and it does not seem to be located in such a way to take up wear?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 The machine is loaded and heading to its new home I'll try to get pictures when I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brian falcone Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 After zooming in on the picture that the owner sent me of the machine on the flatbed I'm starting to think it's a repair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian falcone Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 Keep in mind when I first looked it over it was very dark and cold and I didn't spend too much time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtail Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Look like hydraulics are sound and don't drift down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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