IH Mark Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Does anyone know why IH made the 826 and 1026 only?? And why for a short time, were they prototypes for the 66 series? because it seemed like they were the same as the 56 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
885 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I don't have an answer but have wondered the same thing. I'm pretty sure they used German engines so that is one difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I thought it was cheaper than a 56 series to compete with the 4020 as an 856 whooped a 4020 everyday and twice on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmall1066 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, 885 said: I don't have an answer but have wondered the same thing. I'm pretty sure they used German engines so that is one difference Only the 826 used the German diesel, the 1026 was the 407 turbocharged engine like the 12-1456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bud guy Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, bitty said: I thought it was cheaper than a 56 series to compete with the 4020 as an 856 whooped a 4020 everyday and twice on Sunday I thought the 1026 was the hydro version of the 1256. I thought the 856 custom was the cheapo version. The 4020 falls right in between the 856 and the 826 horsepower wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said: I thought the 1026 was the hydro version of the 1256. I thought the 856 custom was the cheapo version. The 4020 falls right in between the 856 and the 826 horsepower wise. On paper maybe but I think the 826 runs better. 856 custom was the 4000 answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C. Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said: 30 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said: I thought the 1026 was the hydro version of the 1256. I always thought that too, till I saw a 1026 at RPU this past summer that had a cat 2 hitch, then found out that all 1026s did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTERNATIONAL 1466 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Fear! We don't have a tractor the same as a 4020! Who cares, we have an 856, GIT ER DONE. The 1026 I understood, big hydro with a turbo, the 826 made no sense. I have one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoshoe Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The 756 and 856 customs were the quick response to the 4000 until the 826 gear was ready. The 1026 was the big hydro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehammer Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Kinda like a 544. I had one. Really really nice for what it was just doesn’t fit in quite right number wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TractormanMike.mb Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said: Kinda like a 544. I had one. Really really nice for what it was just doesn’t fit in quite right number wise. I thought I read once that 544 was for 54 horsepower and 4 cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehammer Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, TractormanMike.mb said: I thought I read once that 544 was for 54 horsepower and 4 cylinders. Never heard that personally but you could be correct. It’s 4cyl for sure and close on the hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The 826 is between the 756 and 856 hp wise. Remember that was a very popular sizes tractor when new. The 826 was available in gear drive, like the 756/856, or hydrostatic. The 1026 was a 1256 with a hydrostatic drive and cat 2 3pt. I have a gold demo 826 our neighbor bought new. Thx-Ace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EquipmentJunkie Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Like acem said, the 826 plugged a hole in IH's product line. Also, the 826 was a good bit lighter than the 856 which made it priced more competitively against the Deere 4020 which was still often lighter than the 826. In manufacturing, weight = dollars. Therefore, a lighter tractor is nearly always less money than a heavier one. With this comment, I'm looking Kubota square in the eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cattech Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I knew the 1026 was a hydro, but available with a gear drive. Didn't think the 826 was available as a hydro? And, good thread, I have always wondered about these models too. Hopefully someone can really explain them. Would have been completely understandable if they had all been hydrostatic drives, or all gear drive. Either, high tech (for the era) hydro models... or a stripped down model made to compete with other brands... but not both. That said, they had the "X56 - Custom" models as price point tractors and sold them side by side with '26s. And if a X26 was a stripper, then how did they get to be gold demos? Confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jass1660 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, Cattech said: I knew the 1026 was a hydro, but available with a gear drive. Didn't think the 826 was available as a hydro? And, good thread, I have always wondered about these models too. Hopefully someone can really explain them. Would have been completely understandable if they had all been hydrostatic drives, or all gear drive. Either, high tech (for the era) hydro models... or a stripped down model made to compete with other brands... but not both. That said, they had the "X56 - Custom" models as price point tractors and sold them side by side with '26s. And if a X26 was a stripper, then how did they get to be gold demos? Confusing. 1026 was Hydro only, 826 could be gear or Hydro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale560 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Has to do with 756. The last year or so of production 756 were gas but no diesel option. The 826 was diesel but I don’t think was available with a gas engine. The 856 could be had either gas,propane or diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1480x3 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 There are some 826 gas out there, very rare. Saw a gas hydro on an auction a while back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EquipmentJunkie Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Tractor Data shows an 826 gas was available ("International Harvester C-301 gasoline"), but there was no Nebraska Test for the gasoline model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The 26 series was designed to showcase the new large frame hydro tractors. The 826 was definitely available as a hydro (I own one) and as a gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injpumped Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I've always figured the "26" series was intended to be the large frame hydros, as mentioned. At some point there must have been a demand for an 826 in gear drive, so they built them. I've always thought of a 1026 as a hydro 1256, from a hp standpoint, but it's more like a hydro 1456 with the longer hood and updated hitch, but lower hp 407. The 1026/1456 essentially replaced the 1256. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Fan Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, nepoweshiekfarmalls said: The 26 series was designed to showcase the new large frame hydro tractors. The 826 was definitely available as a hydro (I own one) and as a gas. Aaron, are those both your tractors? An 826 gas, hydro, with NFE has got to be one rare bird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injpumped Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 a narrow of single front can be put on any 26/56 series, they all have the wet bolster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I think that the 826 came out instead of making an 856 hydro. They wanted to use the 358 german diesel, so it really was NOT an 856 anyway. They already had a large capacity to produce the gear drives, so make both available. The 1026 was already covered by the 1256/ 1456 gear drive machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, DT Fan said: Aaron, are those both your tractors? An 826 gas, hydro, with NFE has got to be one rare bird! The gas is not mine (wish!), just posting to share the information. I happen to know that one resides over in Keystone, IA. The diesel hydro with the 2 post is mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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