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IH 856 vs Farmall 856


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TractorData lists the Farmall 856 as a variant of the IH 856 and the description implies the Farmall 856 were all "Custom" models, is that correct? It seems odd they would classify them as different models, then start both models with the same serial number and yet have such a drastic difference in the serial number sequences going forward. I also understood the Custom was not as common but the serial numbers indicate there were way more Customs produced than IH versions. I know the Custom will have a CU on the data plate but does it mean that they produced an IH 856 and a Custom (Farmall) 856 with the same serial numbers? Does the S-Y behind the serial number mean anything.

I ask more for curiosity and my own edification really. I just bought an IH 856, ser 13785 so its a 71 model, but that serial number would have been used in 68 on the Custom version and that just seems odd to me.

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I’ve never understood the differences. We’ve had our 806 Farmall for 40+ years, and I bought the 856 International years ago to sort of be its twin/little sister.  Imo there isn’t any differences between them other than cubic inches. 806 is a ‘67 and 856 is a ‘71

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22 minutes ago, stronger800 said:

I’ve never understood the differences. We’ve had our 806 Farmall for 40+ years, and I bought the 856 International years ago to sort of be its twin/little sister.  Imo there isn’t any differences between them other than cubic inches. 806 is a ‘67 and 856 is a ‘71

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These are both Row Crop tractors and would be considered Farmalls.  The International or Standard version would have a different front axle and any number of different options for the rear hitch, fenders, etc.

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Here is an example of an International or standard tread tractor. Some would possibly call it a wheatland also due to being more popular in the west and northern wheat growing areas of North America. This particular one is a 1256 but the same style would apply to the 856image.thumb.jpeg.03265e34be9c61e812503bbf54ca80a4.jpeg

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856 Customs were an economy ($) model with less(er) features but same basic tractor.

I think Ken Updike did a article on them awhile back.

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18 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

Here is an example of an International or standard tread tractor. Some would possibly call it a wheatland also due to being more popular in the west and northern wheat growing areas of North America. This particular one is a 1256 but the same style would apply to the 856image.thumb.jpeg.03265e34be9c61e812503bbf54ca80a4.jpeg

International/standard with wheatland options such as the big fenders and big platform 

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10 hours ago, Rainman said:

856 Customs were an economy ($) model with less(er) features but same basic tractor.

I think Ken Updike did a article on them awhile back.

I understand the differences in the custom, just wondering about the serial numbers and if they used the same number on two different models as the tractor data suggests.

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I think whatever list that you looked at was wrong. The serial number list published by the National Farm & Power Eqpt Dealers Assn lists 856 Farmalls as such:

Beginning ser #         year

7501                          1967

9854                         1968

19554                        1969

28693                        1970

32420                         1971

856 Customs were made only towards the end of the 56 series run. Not nearly as many Customs as regular 856s. And only in the Farmall models.

There is a separate and differing list for the I856 and 2856.

So your tractor would be a 1968 model.

Nice straight looking tractor that you have.

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Customs share the same serial number sequence as the Farmalls.

The blurb on Tractordata states that IH "offered" the 856 Farmall in a Custom version, "Farmall" being implied as it is the subject of the web page. The Custom being a stripped down Farmall model that was a few hundred dollars less expensive.

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31 minutes ago, ny bill o said:

I think whatever list that you looked at was wrong. The serial number list published by the National Farm & Power Eqpt Dealers Assn lists 856 Farmalls as such:

Beginning ser #         year

7501                          1967

9854                         1968

19554                        1969

28693                        1970

32420                         1971

856 Customs were made only towards the end of the 56 series run. Not nearly as many Customs as regular 856s. And only in the Farmall models.

There is a separate and differing list for the I856 and 2856.

So your tractor would be a 1968 model.

Nice straight looking tractor that you have.

No doubt the information on Tractordata.com is confusing, that's why I asked. Doesn't matter to me if mine is a 68 or 71, I believe its all original sort of a new clutch this year. just over 5400 hours on the original working tach.

 

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