22778 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Hey guys and gals, Does anyone have a source for new rear axle bearings and seals for a Farmall 560 without having to pay $100 a piece for the bearings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWV Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Good question, interested in answers, Afraid I don't for a good quality bearing with heavy load capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaFarmall Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Some local machine shops usually can get bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaFarmall Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 There is a bearing shop in st cloud MN, don't know how close you are to them. Sometimes I have had good luck googling the number on the bearing and finding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, MinnesotaFarmall said: Some local machine shops usually can get bearings. with the usual 200% markup to > $180 AND .... not USA but china ^%() Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22778 Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 Thanks for the response guys. I live in IN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearclash Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 What are the bearing numbers? I just ordered NTN rear axle bearings for an MX150 from my preferred bearing supplier. He said Timken has had big supply problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksfarmdude Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Hardly see timken bearings anymore here , Last tranny I rebuilt I tried to get all timken bearings , Not sure what their problems are but I think i'll forget about messing with them from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
560Dennis Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Been awhile ! I got the outer bearing off eBay , it’s a fag or sk 6314 I think, thinks was 20 bucks free shipping the Hoover roller bearing was ok ,if you need it . Going to be a lot if you need those maybe Steiner for the oil seals and felt rings , don’t recommend putting any Chinese bearings in there . You can find new old stock bearings on eBay for way less I cross referencing the ih bearing and I measured the inside diameter and outside diameter with calipers, and the width and plug that into bearing cross refer chart to find the bearing size , that’s what I suggests , your choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kirsch Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 You're balking over $100 for a bearing? Try $250 and there is no suitable cross match for the ST210 IIRC. Outer axle bearing for the M and Super M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binderoid Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt Kirsch said: You're balking over $100 for a bearing? Try $250 and there is no suitable cross match for the ST210 IIRC. Outer axle bearing for the M and Super M. I was just about to say that same thing! 2 main shaft bearings and inner and outer for 1 axle was over $400, from Rice equipment in Clarion Pa. (for W-12) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I've gotten some skf bearings that says "made in china" lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHClaw Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Try Bearing Inc. (812-238-1611) or Coldwell (812-232-0276) in Terre Haute In. If you have the number or old bearing they should be able to get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWRB Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Post the IH part numbers here, and quote this post. I have an IH bearing book and a seal cross reference. I'll help you out if I can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22778 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 I have not got my bearings out yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWRB Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 6 hours ago, 22778 said: I have not got my bearings out yet Do you have a book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWV Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/7/2021 at 1:53 PM, KWRB said: Post the IH part numbers here, and quote this post. I have an IH bearing book and a seal cross reference. I'll help you out if I can. ST-675 outer axle bearing. Inner was ST-223-A or roller bearing 375215R91. If it can be found new the price will shock you. Think West Pullman works bearing L-270 was also used . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerpost Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 A week or two ago there was a set of Bower inner axle bearings on flea bay for 560. I wouldn’t be afraid of a used Bower. If you go that way the outer bearing should be of later 560 design. The Bower roller bearings basically ended inner axle bearing failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWRB Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Bold, underlined numbers are the part numbers shown in the parts catalog online. I started with these when I did the interchange Plain, underlined numbers are the interchangeable alternatives for that bearing (source of interchange is shown in parentheses)(part number decode is also shown) Inner Bearing is element 3 in figure above. Outer bearing is element 6. Outer seal is element 7. Inner Bearing, figure no. 3, ST-223A: Identified as a ball bearing, light series, max fill. The catalog also indicates that this is interchangeable with IH part number 23276H Interchangeable with the following: West Pullman L 270 (IH Bearing Book) (Loading Groove Assembly(required for max fill), light series, 70 mm bore) New Departure 1214 (IH Bearing Book) (70mm bore, Light series, single row max fill) SKF 214-J (SKF Interchange) (Light Series, Max fill type, 70mm bore, steel cage) Timken 1214AG (Timken Interchange) (I can't find out what the AG suffix means, But I'm guessing it means max fill, with a cage) IH 375215R91 (CASEIH Website part catalog) --> which in turn crosses to Bower MSN 1214 EAL (IH bearing book) IH 272575R91 (IH Book) --> Timken 1214AG (Timken Interchange) --> SKF 214-J (SKF Interchange) --> Fafnir 214-L (IH Book) (Single row ball brg, light series, 70mm bore, one mechanical seal) in IH bearing book IH 304657C91 (IH Book) --> Timken 1214AG (Timken Interchange) --> SKF 214-J (SKF Interchange) IH 306858C91 (IH Book) --> Timken 1214AG (Timken Interchange) --> SKF 214-J (SKF Interchange) IH 372185R91 (IH Book) --> Timken 1214AG (Timken Interchange) --> SKF 214-J (SKF Interchange) IH 372186R91 (IH Book) --> Timken 1214AG (Timken Interchange) --> SKF 214-J (SKF Interchange) IH 842951R91 (IH Book) --> Timken 1214AG (Timken Interchange) --> SKF 214-J (SKF Interchange) --> RIV SKF Italy 11-A (I wasn't able to confirm the decode here) Curiously, I started with looking up ST-675, per @DWV's post above, and got the WP, ND numbers above and IH 23276H. When I then re-crossed the West Pullman number L270 in the same IH book, I got IH number ST-223A. ST-223A and ST-675 show interchangeability with the exact same West Pullman, New Departure, Timken and SKF numbers in the IH book and in the Timken and SKF guides. So, I take that to mean IH part number ST-265 and ST-223A are interchangeable. Lastly on this bearing, the CASEIH website, for ST223A shows available for $84, and shows a handful of interchanges that I've already captured above plus what appears to be a current inventory stock number of CaseIH 84330092, available for $118, and with this picture! You'll see that says "SKF" "214" and shows a steel cage. When you looks at the ball spacing, it's a max fill. Also, cages are often used on max fill bearings. So ST223A and 84330092 are the same bearing, but different part numbers and different prices. Go figure that. I then went to look up the other bearing, and I see the outer is listed as ST675, which per everything I wrote above, IS THE SAME BEARING! Only on the website, they list the dimensions in inches, whereas the other is shown in mm. Millimeter incrementing has been the standard for bearings even in the US for oh, about 100 years. As I explained above, these appear to be the exact same bearing and share all the interchanges above. ==================================================================================================================== Now for seals. With seals, I don't bother with anything other than SKF (which used to be Chicago Rawhide. CR was original equipment on my 1950 IH tractor seals, and I've always had good luck with them, and they're available at Napa. Outer Seal, figure no. 7, 360457R91: Interchangeable with SKF 27368 I hope this helps!! KWRB 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWRB Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/4/2021 at 10:41 AM, Gearclash said: What are the bearing numbers? I just ordered NTN rear axle bearings for an MX150 from my preferred bearing supplier. He said Timken has had big supply problems. Looks like NTN 1214 will interchange, the 1200 series is their "light" metric standard max fill single row ball bearing, 14 is 70mm bore, and all their max fill single rows have cages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22778 Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 KWRB AND ALL OTHERS WHO COMMENTED, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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