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On 8/21/2021 at 3:26 PM, SDman said:

 

Has anybody used the new 251 HEP grease from Shell? That stuff sure looks much lighter than the old stuff....looks like caramel. Also, seems to be much harder to get a grease gun primed with the new grease than the old stuff.

Realizing asking this is probably a horrible idea, what grease do most of y’all use?

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On 8/19/2021 at 3:25 PM, TP from Central PA said:

Reason is? Doesn't make alot of sense to me????  Other than the Shell isn't good enough????

Or it could just be the thousands of gallons of old stock they have on hand, that they'd rather use up quietly behind the scenes, than sell openly on dealer floors right next to the new Shell products that they're trying to promote.

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I used to use the standard Case IH 251H EP almost exclusively, still do some, but the local dealer closed so I bought some NAPA 75600 but NAPA raised the price on it, bought some Mobil XHP 222 to try, I think Mystik JT-6 Hi-Temp sounds like a good grease for the money, I have used up some Valvoline VV61510 left over from packing GM wheel bearings, I recommend not buying cheap grease without EP.

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10 hours ago, Matt Kirsch said:

Or it could just be the thousands of gallons of old stock they have on hand, that they'd rather use up quietly behind the scenes, than sell openly on dealer floors right next to the new Shell products that they're trying to promote.

I get that............But if it looks and smells different from the fluid being sold on the dealer floor, wouldn't that just open up issues on the service end if problems happen to a brand new tractor???  

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12 hours ago, TP from Central PA said:

I get that............But if it looks and smells different from the fluid being sold on the dealer floor, wouldn't that just open up issues on the service end if problems happen to a brand new tractor???  

Shouldn't. Both lubes are supplied by the OEM, and the tractor is under warranty.

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I attempted to purchase 30W Low Ash engine oil at the dealer (in Ontario Canada) on Friday and they did not have any... they said to use this crap! I was told that it is "exactly the same as what I normally use, just a different jug" .   I find that hard to believe. I did not buy any. 

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Good, bad, or otherwise, that is what’s recommended to take the place of Low Ash oil. On one of the Facebook IH forums, somebody had comparison specs between this oil and Low Ash oil. The Pennzoil oil had a lower ash content. 

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2 hours ago, lightninboy said:

It MIGHT cost less than Low Ash did.

That would be a plus but it's going to be hard to get myself to buy Pennzoil!

Glad I still have 2&1/2 buckets of low ash! Cleaned out the local dealer when I heard about this.

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8 minutes ago, DT Fan said:

That would be a plus but it's going to be hard to get myself to buy Pennzoil!

Glad I still have 2&1/2 buckets of low ash! Cleaned out the local dealer when I heard about this.

While on a major parts run today I was able to score a bucket and 3 jugs within an hour and a half from home....

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Looking at Viscosity Oil's website, it looks like they have discontinued Low Ash oil entirely as well. I would imagine its not exactly a high-volume seller for anybody anymore. Between the cost(Low Ash was one of the most expensive engine oils out there) and the fact that there are just not that many old IH gas engines that are putting a lot of hours on them anymore, I'm surprised CaseIH kept Low Ash oil in its lineup all these years later.

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pennz oil was used up 40-55 years ago(green white metal cans),total crap for a while then

new owners had a blend of snake oils and left overs,like everything else just a name to hype now

time was, it was a cheap place holder pour thru until engine could be repaired

now we use wolf head at $3.50 qt  but little chance of engine repair in the racist woke world of destroy uSA

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16 hours ago, Farmall Doctor said:

I attempted to purchase 30W Low Ash engine oil at the dealer (in Ontario Canada) on Friday and they did not have any... they said to use this crap! I was told that it is "exactly the same as what I normally use, just a different jug" .   I find that hard to believe. I did not buy any. 

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IMHO & Experience, If you want a gummed up stinky engine, use this Pennzoil crap !

     Tony

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1 hour ago, Tonyinca said:

IMHO & Experience, If you want a gummed up stinky engine, use this Pennzoil crap !

     Tony

Why is that?  Of all the oil yakking thats pit there the steady comment i hear from mechanics and machinists is that..  Pennzoil make gunk in a engine.  Machinist told me he seen a 401 Jeep with the whole lifter valley solid sludge but the crank and rods were perfect standard sized with 100k on it.  Heard same reports of gunky lifter and valve covers fulll of gunk in a Penz engines.  Not sure about last 10 years though.  This was 20 years ago when I worked at GM dealer

 

Fwiw.... any lower ash content oil (or straight 30 wt of normal ash) is going to be higher spec than anything IH was using 50 years ago guys.  

 

So...what oil filters are better?

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4 hours ago, TroyDairy said:

Why is that?  Of all the oil yakking thats pit there the steady comment i hear from mechanics and machinists is that..  Pennzoil make gunk in a engine.  Machinist told me he seen a 401 Jeep with the whole lifter valley solid sludge but the crank and rods were perfect standard sized with 100k on it.  Heard same reports of gunky lifter and valve covers fulll of gunk in a Penz engines.  Not sure about last 10 years though.  This was 20 years ago when I worked at GM dealer

 

Fwiw.... any lower ash content oil (or straight 30 wt of normal ash) is going to be higher spec than anything IH was using 50 years ago guys.  

 

So...what oil filters are better?

What I was told it had something to do with a paraffin base. I did not care to learn why at the time . I have just shun it since the 70's

Tony

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I was told quaker state gummed up the inside of the engine. 

Back in the day, good mechanics recommend the paraffin motor oil for use in high mileage engines to reduce oil consumption and leakage.

Thx-Ace 

 

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The paraffin base oils start to leave a residue behind in the interval it takes to change oil.

You can scrape your fingernail down the dipstick a little will bunch up on it.

Over time I can see how it could sludge up.

I've heard the same about Penz and stopped using it but that was in the 80's  it might be different now.......

 

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Yep! I have been inside engines like that...FULL of slime! I have also been inside engines that have had IH 30W Low Ash since new, and they are perfectly clean on the inside.

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Looking over the Mobil 505 oil Ace mentioned. Sure looks alot like CIH low ash and Mobil has a good product record. I'm going to call a local distributor and get info. Don't trust Penz either but looks like dealers are pushing it because it's a Shell product like the other new CIH lubricants.

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