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How wide spread is it to bale corn stalks for feed------or just special cases where the grower is also in the cattle business.

Here in the Delta-------you normally see a disk not far behind the combine and start the deterioration of the crop residue as soon as possible.

 

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1 hour ago, Delta Dirt said:

How wide spread is it to bale corn stalks for feed------or just special cases where the grower is also in the cattle business.

Here in the Delta-------you normally see a disk not far behind the combine and start the deterioration of the crop residue as soon as possible.

 

DD

 

I live in Sioux County IA, one of the biggest livestock counties in the nation. I would guess between 1/3 and 1/2 of the corn acres get baled for the stalks here- @Gearclash will have an opinion on that number, as he is in the stalk baling business like I am. Growers that aren’t in the cattle business will sell the stalks or trade for manure. Stalks are used for both feed and bedding. With higher corn and hay prices this year, I expect it to be a busy fall for baling. 

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@ihrondiesel I would agree about a 1/3 of corn acres get baled.  It depends exactly where in the county you are.

Usually cornstalks get made into round bales -- squares are kind of an exception -- I know of only 2 operations that make squares on a really large scale.  Most make round bales.  I just kind of shake my head about big square stalks because I used to make upwards of 500 a year of them and the knotter problems that stalks cause will tax the patience of a saint.

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On 8/27/2021 at 7:56 PM, IHhogfarmer said:

@ihrondiesel ever hear of this classic by Merle from 1975? It was the theme some for the t.v. Series “Movin On”

Thanks for the pics. I’m enjoying seeing your travels. 

Here’s another one I like @IHhogfarmer

 

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Don't want to hi-jack Ron's thread....... but a stalk baling question.

Does anyone up there have a Hillco residue unit? It's a pull behind chopper and JD round baler for baling the husks and lost kernals. Pulls behind a JD combine. There is a guy about 10 miles from me near Harlan that I saw last year was running one.  That would be the cats meow for stock cow feed, but I have no idea the price tag.

We were the first in this area to bale corn stover for our cows. My experience....

First couple years I hired a guy who had a flail chopper on his JD round baler. He only baled the center two rows. Made pretty decent feed, but the chopper shook his baler to pieces. He quit because it was to expensive to fix the equipment.  Next we slid the chopper back on the renters combine (JD) and just dumped everything in the center two rows. The guy baling didn't like it because  he said the standing stalks were to hard on his baler. Next we hired a guy to rake and bale the stalks. Never again !!. Waaayyyyy to much dirt. Cows looked like they had been eating in a mud hole. Finally just went back to buying hay. 

Love feeding corn stover. But it needs to be put up by someone who knows something about cows and not just concerned about the number of bales. 

Now, using the bales as bedding, that is a different story. Makes great bedding.

 If you haven't seen those Hillco units, check them out on the internet. That is the way to make cow feed.

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9 hours ago, dads706 said:

Don't want to hi-jack Ron's thread....... but a stalk baling question.

Does anyone up there have a Hillco residue unit? It's a pull behind chopper and JD round baler for baling the husks and lost kernals. Pulls behind a JD combine. There is a guy about 10 miles from me near Harlan that I saw last year was running one.  That would be the cats meow for stock cow feed, but I have no idea the price tag.

We were the first in this area to bale corn stover for our cows. My experience....

First couple years I hired a guy who had a flail chopper on his JD round baler. He only baled the center two rows. Made pretty decent feed, but the chopper shook his baler to pieces. He quit because it was to expensive to fix the equipment.  Next we slid the chopper back on the renters combine (JD) and just dumped everything in the center two rows. The guy baling didn't like it because  he said the standing stalks were to hard on his baler. Next we hired a guy to rake and bale the stalks. Never again !!. Waaayyyyy to much dirt. Cows looked like they had been eating in a mud hole. Finally just went back to buying hay. 

Love feeding corn stover. But it needs to be put up by someone who knows something about cows and not just concerned about the number of bales. 

Now, using the bales as bedding, that is a different story. Makes great bedding.

 If you haven't seen those Hillco units, check them out on the internet. That is the way to make cow feed.

I don’t remember what Dad had, maybe a Foster Chaffwagon? Sounds about right. Anyway, we used it for 2 or 3 years, but on gravity irrigated ground it was a challenge to get the bunches picked up. Next he tried a Heston stackhand. Like you said, to much dirt. 
On the corn, after I got to running the combine, there wasn’t enough corn in the fodder to make good feed. The shucks were filler but not worth the cost for us. 

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Been awhile.  Thought I’d revive this thread and see how it goes for awhile. 
It was pretty hazy from the smoke this morning by Decker, MT.

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And I better add, if any of you guys are out there trying to spot me, I got a different truck last fall after I stopped updating. 
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2 hours ago, ihrondiesel said:

Been awhile.  Thought I’d revive this thread and see how it goes for awhile. 
It was pretty hazy from the smoke this morning by Decker, MT.

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And I better add, if any of you guys are out there trying to spot me, I got a different truck last fall after I stopped updating. 
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Lisa says she will let me trade you straight across. 😊Nice ride!!

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1 hour ago, bkorth said:

I think you need 1 more axle😁

I actually have 1 less axle now, since I’m the only truck in the fleet with a pusher I’m pulling a triple now so we all have 7 axles. 

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Going in circles with the side dump this morning, hauling dirt to a feedlot so someone can have a pond for the new house they are going to build

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and on the other end

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5 trucks on a 5 1/2 mile haul

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Loaded some yearling heifers at Grassy Butte, ND this morning. The corral setup is right along a highway, and is sort of a co-op scale, ranches build it together as a community use livestock scale and sorting pens, and pay a per head fee when they use it. 
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8 hours ago, ihrondiesel said:

Loaded some yearling heifers at Grassy Butte, ND this morning. The corral setup is right along a highway, and is sort of a co-op scale, ranches build it together as a community use livestock scale and sorting pens, and pay a per head fee when they use it. 
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I shipped my calves out of the Rose Valley scale and corrals when I lived down by Mullen. 

Same deal, everyone paid a per head fee that went to maintenance and upkeep. 

Most cattle sold privately and never went to the sale barn.

It worked well. 

Lot of good stories about the order buyer and the rancher sitting around a table with a bottle of whiskey in the middle, haggling price.

It paid to be able to hold yer likker in those days😄

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9 minutes ago, sandhiller said:

I shipped my calves out of the Rose Valley scale and corrals when I lived down by Mullen. 

Same deal, everyone paid a per head fee that went to maintenance and upkeep. 

Most cattle sold privately and never went to the sale barn.

It worked well. 

Lot of good stories about the order buyer and the rancher sitting around a table with a bottle of whiskey in the middle, haggling price.

It paid to be able to hold yer likker in those days😄

There was a bottle of whiskey on the table when I walked in at 9:00 this morning

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52 minutes ago, hillman said:

Ron. I may have forgotten but I assume you made a full recovery and feel well now?

I had an appointment with my oncologist a week ago. Based on where my blood test numbers are, she told me I can stop taking the chemo pills if I want to.  Since I have zero side effects, we decided it makes sense for me to stay on them for another six months and reevaluate then.  Thanks for asking. 

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7 minutes ago, ihrondiesel said:

I had an appointment with my oncologist a week ago. Based on where my blood test numbers are, she told me I can stop taking the chemo pills if I want to.  Since I have zero side effects, we decided it makes sense for me to stay on them for another six months and reevaluate then.  Thanks for asking. 

good news and I hope to hear more of it in the future

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