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My Farmall M has an American Bosch magneto fitted, it is almost a copy of a Bendix aircraft magneto found on common Lycoming aircraft engines. I am told it was an option in the 1950’s. It is totally self contained with the coil inside the unit. Not sure if it only came on the British built M’s or if it is reasonably common. There is an M on display at a transport museum near us and it has the same mag. See photo.0C014AE4-90A7-4120-BD77-93709A5A661A.thumb.jpeg.974fb89d25e5e99a6fb1f72198a2f31f.jpeg

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22 hours ago, Dave Mac said:

I think the loader was built in New Zealand but probably copied from someone else. When these tractors were imported here in the forties and fifty’s strict import rules were in place, and only essential machinery was imported with an import licence and provided the importer had overseas funds. So usually only the bare tractor was imported and the implements and extras were locally made.

...weren't     they called"'Horndralic'' or some  name that resembles that ..???   Had to be Kiwi made, because they were fitted to Fords and Nuffield's, I reckon....

...Kiwi   made ..but copied from Stateside or somewhere....E.G.   the "Trackweld Back Hoe''....I brought   for the A554, made in Palmeston North, but a direct copy off the American  "Ford "   back hoe of that era.....(late sixties...)

Mike

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On 8/6/2021 at 6:01 AM, mike newman said:

courage  Dave.....courage  !!   those are just little tests of patience  that you have to pass...before scaling the giddy heights of  success.....:rolleyes:

Mike

Hmmm ! Carby cleaned out and new kit fitted, plus a new float. Old float was leaking from years of rubbing against the bowl. Ready to go back on the tractor now. Got the starter motor back from the sparky and it still no good, so I pulled it apart and found the field contact to the post looked like it was secure but the solder had let go and the contact was awful. All sorted now and it spins like it should. Good help is hard to find these days, if you want it done right do it yourself !! I can smell success looming 🤠

 

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31 minutes ago, Dave Mac said:

Hmmm ! Carby cleaned out and new kit fitted, plus a new float. Old float was leaking from years of rubbing against the bowl. Ready to go back on the tractor now. Got the starter motor back from the sparky and it still no good, so I pulled it apart and found the field contact to the post looked like it was secure but the solder had let go and the contact was awful. All sorted now and it spins like it should. Good help is hard to find these days, if you want it done right do it yourself !! I can smell success looming 🤠

 

...sounds good...!!!  trust you are all masked up......as our inglorious leader  requires.....Don't want that dear old Farmall  coughing  up , when it finally fires up....

..re your starter issue....I have taken several generators into our local sparky.....(504   IH    tractors...)...but it would seem that their heart is just not in it...when it comes to these old   electrical components.....

Post that picture..of the"M"  running, Dave...:)

Mike

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9 hours ago, mike newman said:

...sounds good...!!!  trust you are all masked up......as our inglorious leader  requires.....Don't want that dear old Farmall  coughing  up , when it finally fires up....

..re your starter issue....I have taken several generators into our local sparky.....(504   IH    tractors...)...but it would seem that their heart is just not in it...when it comes to these old   electrical components.....

Post that picture..of the"M"  running, Dave...:)

Mike

Will do Mike …… you are right, not only was the starter not repaired but the inside was filthy, I would have expected the first thing any competent repairer would do is give it a good clean ! Needless to say it is sparkling in there now !

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On 8/20/2021 at 6:19 AM, Dave Mac said:

Will do Mike …… you are right, not only was the starter not repaired but the inside was filthy, I would have expected the first thing any competent repairer would do is give it a good clean ! Needless to say it is sparkling in there now !

IT RUNS !!!! Happy days. After fitting the carburettor, full choke and about two turns it fired up like it had been running all day.  Engine sounds good no rattles and good oil pressure. I tried to post a video but I don’t think it can be done on here. Hydraulics for the loader are not working tho, so bit more work to do before I can move it.

 

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5 hours ago, Dave Mac said:

IT RUNS !!!! Happy days. After fitting the carburettor, full choke and about two turns it fired up like it had been running all day.  Engine sounds good no rattles and good oil pressure. I tried to post a video but I don’t think it can be done on here. Hydraulics for the loader are not working tho, so bit more work to do before I can move it.

 

Great news, Dave...now   you are obligated to post pictures , Thankyou !!!!

Mike

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Just an update, didn’t spend much time on the hydraulics because the loader will be removed, so have just locked it up enough so the tractor can be driven. Have now driven it and everything seems to be working fine, including the clutch which I expected to have issues after sitting for so long. Brakes are good too ! However the radiator is blocked, I was hopeful of back flushing it but I think the dirt in there has been dry for too long and now turned to mud. So the radiator is coming out to be cleaned properly next week, and at the same time I have a new thermostat to fit. Then it should be fine to drive the 5km to my shed for part two of this restoration. Oh and I have removed the Fordson rear fenders, looks much better.

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4 minutes ago, m.c.farmerboy said:

did I see a parking meter in one of the early photos of the m? 

Guess someone else spotted it also, I thought they might be charging you to park in you own door yard with the new world order in ozzy land  one never knows

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4 minutes ago, m.c.farmerboy said:

Guess someone else spotted it also, I thought they might be charging you to park in you own door yard with the new world order in ozzy land  one never knows

OK, Mark...now we realise that you come from that  cultural backwater, Maine....but please try and keep your posts clean.......:mellow:.....we are  not  in   "'ozzy land "".....:rolleyes:...there is nothing wrong with   ''ozzy land''.....but  Dave  Mac,   (and myself ) live in the Socialist  Utopia of New Zealand ......along with, Marty,Heath , Brett and a few others, who frequent this  forum.....and it is of great geographical  importance that  you realise that......:)

......It can be confusing for us ''down under'  also......wondering if you come from Mexico..or  Puerto Rico....like  when we see pictures of your ''celebrities''...doing all those ''celebrity'    things on the news like pulling dow.........but .perhaps we shouldn't go there....:ph34r:

Mike.

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1 minute ago, mike newman said:

OK, Mark...now we realise that you come from that  cultural backwater, Maine....but please try and keep your posts clean.......:mellow:.....we are  not  in   "'ozzy land "".....:rolleyes:...there is nothing wrong with   ''ozzy land''.....but  Dave  Mac,   (and myself ) live in the Socialist  Utopia of New Zealand ......along with, Marty,Heath , Brett and a few others, who frequent this  forum.....and it is of great geographical  importance that  you realise that......:)

......It can be confusing for us ''down under'  also......wondering if you come from Mexico..or  Puerto Rico....like  when we see pictures of your ''celebrities''...doing all those ''celebrity'    things on the news like pulling dow.........but .perhaps we shouldn't go there....:ph34r:

Mike.

HaHa I was just referring to whats going on in Australia, I served with some Ozzys in the army I have grate respect for both Islands and you have a beautiful county much like Maine. If things where not so crazy I'd be down to have a belt with good old boys

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4 hours ago, m.c.farmerboy said:

HaHa I was just referring to whats going on in Australia, I served with some Ozzys in the army I have grate respect for both Islands and you have a beautiful county much like Maine. If things where not so crazy I'd be down to have a belt with good old boys

No worries    !!!!!

Mike

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10 hours ago, m.c.farmerboy said:

Guess someone else spotted it also, I thought they might be charging you to park in you own door yard with the new world order in ozzy land  one never knows

Yes that parking meter always gets some comments. My wife was a parking meter officer in the 70’s and when they retired those old manual coin operated meters the local council auctioned them off. One of our friends bought one and gave it to her for a birthday present. Don’t know if it still works because we didn’t get a winder, apparently they had to wind them up like an old clock every week ! 🤠

 

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Radiator back in today after a good strip and clean. It was 50% blocked . Took it for a drive around the block and it runs cool, however it is a cold day. Will need to adjust the shutters to get the best temperature on a normal day. Wow it gets along at a reasonable pace in 5th gear, I had to hold it back, too scary !

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7 hours ago, B.B. said:

What’s the numbers on the frame rail? 

That’s the number plate for when it was registered for road use, many years ago.

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Big day out for the M ! 
Finally got to drive it on the road to the airport where it will live. Took about 35 minutes and everything worked fine, not even any fluid leaks, it was a nice day and very enjoyable, could have kept going.

I stopped about halfway and had a look around and it was all good. Now to remove that front end loader and fit the row crop front end.

I have to say this is one well built machine, I have owned a number of old tractors in my time but this is the first vintage International wheel tractor. It is a tribute to the guys who designed and built it, especially since it is 71 years old ! Nothing is broken, or rusting away and everything fits properly.  There is no plastic, no vinyl or fibreglass only good quality American Iron & Steel that will still be good in another 70 yrs and beyond.

Dave

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Loader coming off, looks much better already !

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4 hours ago, B.B. said:

I still say leave the wide front :) 

I must admit the wide front is growing on me. It is quite a big job to change because the radiator has to come out again. Might leave it for a while and see how it goes. The main reason for changing is firstly because I like that look, but also the turning circle is better and the tractor will be used for moving airplanes in its retirement. 🤠

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1 hour ago, Dave Mac said:

I must admit the wide front is growing on me. It is quite a big job to change because the radiator has to come out again. Might leave it for a while and see how it goes. The main reason for changing is firstly because I like that look, but also the turning circle is better and the tractor will be used for moving airplanes in its retirement. 🤠

I have removed 5 wide front ends in the last few years and never took a radiator off yet

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26 minutes ago, bitty said:

I have removed 5 wide front ends in the last few years and never took a radiator off yet

What about the studs and the drain pipe that extends through the Casting ?

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Hi Guys & Girls

Here is a photo of the M with all the loader off, except the hydraulic pump. I bet the tractor has lost a few pounds, boy that loader is heavy !

A little snag with the pump, I want to remove it and fit a standard coupling. One of our esteemed members kindly sent me a coupling, but it is four bolt, and the pump is three bolts, not only that but the long distance between bolts is 1” longer on the pump. They are both the same across the top. I am hoping that the lower bolt holes are there but hidden by the pump ??

I will take the pump off anyway, but I thought someone here might know the answer ?
 

Cheers

Dave

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