mrbrettbaker Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Posted 20 hours ago I have a late d282 without the wide flange on top. From what I read there is a tool that is used to draw the liner in and stop it at the required height. I have a machine shop and could quickly make one of these plates if I had a bit of information from someone that had one or had used one. Can I assume that it is a round plate slightly larger diameter than the liner and is recessed so that there is a lip around the liner that would bottom out on the block leaving the liner protruding the required amount? if so, how may thousands of an inch? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binderoid Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 hours ago, mrbrettbaker said: Posted 20 hours ago I have a late d282 without the wide flange on top. From what I read there is a tool that is used to draw the liner in and stop it at the required height. I have a machine shop and could quickly make one of these plates if I had a bit of information from someone that had one or had used one. Can I assume that it is a round plate slightly larger diameter than the liner and is recessed so that there is a lip around the liner that would bottom out on the block leaving the liner protruding the required amount? if so, how may thousands of an inch? Go over to Yesterdays tractors discussion forum and click on IHC and Farmall. There’s a crusty old codger over there would know all about it if it exists. After he gets done talking about hauling heavy out of the coal mines, or about the Fords he built, he’ll tell you what you want to know. Probably way more than you want to hear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoshoe Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I used the tool so I don't remember the spec. Late enough version of manual to have installation procedure for those sleeves should show spec. Your discription is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbrettbaker Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 Thanks Binderiod, will do. Snoshoe, can you point me to a good source for a manual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoshoe Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 The manuals I used came from IH. Two sources I see recommended here most are Binder Books and Peaceful Creek. No personal experience with either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie figone Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Bret, here is a picture of the tool that's shown in the IH Engine service manual (ISS-1040-1) dated May 1968. We did not use a tool, I used a dial indicator holder to measure the protrusion of the sleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoshoe Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 50 minutes ago, louie figone said: Bret, here is a picture of the tool that's shown in the IH Engine service manual (ISS-1040-1) dated May 1968. We did not use a tool, I used a dial indicator holder to measure the protrusion of the sleeves. Wrong tool. Wrong sleeves. That is the older version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie figone Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 hours ago, snoshoe said: Wrong tool. Wrong sleeves. That is the older version. That tool is FES-49 for the light press sleeves, the tool for the heavy press sleeves is FES-24-6, no picture is shown in the engine service manual for the FES-24-6. Snoshoe, do you have a picture of the tool for the heavy press sleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoshoe Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, louie figone said: Snoshoe, do you have a picture of the tool for the heavy press sleeves. No. Do you have spec for sleeve height for heavy press sleeves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binderoid Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 21 hours ago, Binderoid said: Go over to Yesterdays tractors discussion forum and click on IHC and Farmall. There’s a crusty old codger over there would know all about it if it exists. After he gets done talking about hauling heavy out of the coal mines, or about the Fords he built, he’ll tell you what you want to know. Probably way more than you want to hear. He would probably know that dimension you’re looking for also. He ran a machine shop for 60 years and is pretty knowledgeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie figone Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, snoshoe said: No. Do you have spec for sleeve height for heavy press sleeves? Heavy press sleeves are .035-.045 flange above crankcase. I used this setup to check the protrusion of the sleeves. We miked the original flanges and shims, the new sleeves were the same, we used the new shims that were the same as the ones we took out, it came out perfect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoshoe Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Thanks louie. Brett I think I would cut the recess .040. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbrettbaker Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 thanks for all the help. I ordered a manual . I will machine it at .040 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbrettbaker Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 I haven't received my manual yet so maybe one of you could answer another question. I just pulled the liners and am cleaning up the block face and discovered cylinders 1&2 have an L stamped next to them and an H next to 3 thru 6. Might this be differences in bore or in height of liners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoshoe Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Differences in bore. There were three sizes. Sleeves still vary that much. I am not aware of any manufacturer sorting them anymore. OK you said block face. I don't know what those indicate. As I recall sleeve sizes were indicated on side of block. When you get your manual you can let me know IIRC. Edited July 11, 2021 by snoshoe Correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksmith Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 This is great info. Been looking for just this. Might have yo replace one liner in my 3800 d282. So, more info and photos would be great. @mrbrettbaker did you have a puller or did you make one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksmith Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 In frame or out of frame on the exchange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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