What disk is this?

[Ozarks Red]

I'm pretty sure I have a disk like the one in the picture but can't find any model number on it anywhere. 

[ray54]

Model 32 is what I was told on early ones. Latter they had square interlocking spools so the blade needed a bigger whole. So the latter ones where 32a. Not having ever seen any sales material it maybe that smaller models had a different number or maybe a letter added. The spools and bearing stuff was all the same but a different arm and hydraulic ram mounts on the 15 to 24 foot models.

[Ozarks Red]

It would be hard to find parts for in sure. 

[Binderoid]

Used to be when you ordered blades for that thing from C-IH,  they had to go through Komatsu, because they were one of the companies the construction line passed through, and apparently this disk was part of that division. Haven’t tried it for awhile, probably can’t get them anymore anyway (they were like $60 ea). That is the same blade , spool, and oil-bath axle as a model  24B . If you need blades , just look up the diameter you want from any farm parts catalog, and find someone with a plasma cutter and make your own hex. Don’t need to worry about the parts for the rest of it, it’ll never wear out in your lifetime. Wish you’d post some more pics, love to see how the pitch adjustment works.

[Ozarks Red]

I will post some more pics tomorrow.  It's been modified in the past so I'm not sure how close to correct it is. I control cutting angle with a chain for now. 

[ray54]

That is a different beast yet that is a Dyer which was bough up and became a part of IH in the 40's or 50's. Before I came along anyway. They are still some of those running here in the hill country. When the IH dealer closed in 84 or 85 I bough what felt and leather washer/seals he had on hand. Just ran across a few the other day. But stopped using the tube style discs 40 years ago.

Before they had the tube axle, the same frame was used a cast iron box bearing that is much easier if you need to change a blade. As with the rock we bounce over not uncommon. Which I still have one of and use a bit now and again.

My uncle liked the tube style you are showing a picture of. He used a spool from a Allis Chalmers tube axle disc as they where more heavy duty.  But if you are not breaking spools it's not worth the trouble to hunt them up.  

The model 32 is much different. The frame is all overhead, the axle is 1 1/8 or maybe 1 1/4 round stock bearings are sealed, which can be the weakness of them. I had a friend turn me on to feeling for heat at noon and quitting time. The bearing cage is bolted together and has piece of rubber to hold it but let it move just a bit. If hot take cage loose drill a little whole in metal bearing seal. Pump grease in with a needle point then plug whole with silicon gasket maker. Has worked real well for me.

 

The tractor dealer here use to have a way to cut that hex whole. I never saw what they did as I just used a torch. As I had junk yard that kept used disc blade 20 inch was $5, 21 was $6 and so on.

[Ozarks Red]

Very good info. It is a weird built thing for sure with the pipe axle and the whole thing basically being a bearing. 

I would love to be able to find some used blades that cheap. I also do lots of metal work and cutting the centers would be no problem. 

[ray54]

Don't think shipping work be worth it but did see 2, 5 blade axles with what is left of the blades, spools and end nuts.

[Ozarks Red]

Where? I travel around quite a bit?

[Binderoid]

I don’t have that cool pitch adjustment that yours has

[ray54]

15 hours ago, Ozarks Red said:

Where? I travel around quite a bit?

Central California

[louie figone]

Is it a 32-B Flex Line Offset Disk 15 ft - 24 ft? They also had the 32-B Una-Beam 9 ft - 13-1/2 ft, 32 Una-Beam flex-line squadron offset disk 30 ft -42 ft. and the smaller 33 offset disk 5-1/4 ft - 8-1/4 ft.

[Ozarks Red]

2 hours ago, louie figone said:

Is it a 32-B Flex Line Offset Disk 15 ft - 24 ft? They also had the 32-B Una-Beam 9 ft - 13-1/2 ft, 32 Una-Beam flex-line squadron offset disk 30 ft -42 ft. and the smaller 33 offset disk 5-1/4 ft - 8-1/4 ft.

The spools and blades on mine have a hex shape instead of a square. 

[Ozarks Red]

On 6/26/2021 at 8:37 AM, Binderoid said:

Used to be when you ordered blades for that thing from C-IH,  they had to go through Komatsu, because they were one of the companies the construction line passed through, and apparently this disk was part of that division. Haven’t tried it for awhile, probably can’t get them anymore anyway (they were like $60 ea). That is the same blade , spool, and oil-bath axle as a model  24B . If you need blades , just look up the diameter you want from any farm parts catalog, and find someone with a plasma cutter and make your own hex. Don’t need to worry about the parts for the rest of it, it’ll never wear out in your lifetime. Wish you’d post some more pics, love to see how the pitch adjustment works.

Forgot I was going to post more pics. 

[Ozarks Red]

I am thinking about making this into a wheel hydraulic lift to make it a little easier to move around. 

As it sits I really don't know how to adjust this to make it pull better. It wants to pull to the right pretty bad. 

[junkandcattle]

12 minutes ago, Ozarks Red said:

I am thinking about making this into a wheel hydraulic lift to make it a little easier to move around. 

As it sits I really don't know how to adjust this to make it pull better. It wants to pull to the right pretty bad. 

Are you letting the tractor drawbar swing. I know some cutting discs require you let it swing so the disk will function properly. Don't know about yours but it is worth a try

[Ozarks Red]

12 minutes ago, junkandcattle said:

Are you letting the tractor drawbar swing. I know some cutting discs require you let it swing so the disk will function properly. Don't know about yours but it is worth a try

I have not but did read that recently and will try that. 

[Absent Minded Farmer]

On 6/26/2021 at 5:44 AM, Ozarks Red said:

It would be hard to find parts for in sure. 

I looked & there's a very small handful of HWP- parts available through the Parts Depot. HWP-55 was not one of them unfortunately. Might pay to look there for disc blades if you get a number. I say might, as you never know the pricing until after you ask. They could have 100 blades at $10 ea or 10 blades at $100 ea. Never hurts to check though.

Good luck!

Mike

[ray54]

I have some pictures of the latch. The disc pictured is even older than the one that started the whole thread. This one has the cast iron box bearings rather than the big tube axle. I can see in abrasive soil you eat up the box bearings fast. So the tube was the first attempt at a sealed bearing on a disc.  IH,JD,and AC, as well as Gobble and Towner used the tube axle in the 1950's.  Gobble and Towner where west coast companies making tillage tools. Gobble was bought by Massey Ferguson in the the late 60's. Towner finally faded away in the 1990's, I believe parts are available from a company Myers-West in California. Towner was always a good name in tillage tools in California. 

There is a pin that is pulled up from the bottom by a spring. You can see the tail of the spring on the top of latch. The pin and arm you attach rope to to open and close from tractor seat has been robed for another disc. 

 

The arms of the latch are different length depending on how big disc is.

Here is one still on the disc but just used as stop, as I added a hydraulic ram. Note the spring here and how the arm has a part sticking out to the right. That was part of west coast idea to close the disc and make a left turn. 

 

In the old day a cable was attached to bolt in front of spring and thru the pullies on front gang of disc and to a heavy L shaped bracket bolted to crawler hitch. The long part of the L was at the outside edge of the left track( you can see one track shoe on the AC HD 5 this disc is hocked to. Generally you needed the tractor hitch pinned to keep the length of cable correct to pull the back part of the disc to the front to make a sharp left turn.  This feature was on almost every offset disc of any brand from the 30's  to the 50's.

I only know of one disc that has all the pieces of the left turn closing feature working and the bar on the tractor that pulls it.

Back to the IH/Dyer disc the 2 horse shoe pieces of the hinge are a dead give away to make. The same design is carried up to the model 32's that IH made in the 1970's. The hitch is another give away (sorry it is not a better picture of all the hitch). A nice clean T the right end attached to front frame, the left to arm over the front and to the rear frame. I think the front and rear attachment was to help open and close disc to set the amount of angle in the cut. This also was carried to the smaller (13.6 foot and under) model 32's.

I have seen IH /Dyer disc's that the arm to the rear has been done away with, and hitch is just to the front on both right and left. With the added hydraulic it works fine. 

[Ozarks Red]

Very good info Ray. Thanks.