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So on my 450 I have to add a bigger fuel line. It originally had a steel line that I replaced with a copper 5/16" line (OD by 1/4" ID). I want to add something like a 3/8" hose and have a 3/8" hose barb by 1/4" pipe fitting at each end. What options are available before I get something custom made to thread it at the carburetor? 

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My second one is getting looked at right now. Anything odd here ? Came from southern IL and was previously from KY

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Choke is the opposite side of my other 450 , maybe a M carburetor? Propane head and intake. Starter is maybe just aftermarket or a better one than stock ? 

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Looks like a solenoid off of every Ford pickup they made for 40 years up until about the mid 1990s. I’ve probably still got one in a cabinet in the garage. My last jeep had a couple on it. 

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2 hours ago, bitty said:

So on my 450 I have to add a bigger fuel line. It originally had a steel line that I replaced with a copper 5/16" line (OD by 1/4" ID). I want to add something like a 3/8" hose and have a 3/8" hose barb by 1/4" pipe fitting at each end. What options are available before I get something custom made to thread it at the carburetor? 

You might find that a steel line has better flow.  Copper can be thicker walled and have a reduced area. By the time you put a 3/8 fuel hose, push in a barb, and all the rest,  the center hole isn’t going to be much larger than 5/16 tubing. So what are you gaining?

 If this is your pulling rig and your not going to be farming with it you can drill out the center of the adapter fittings. Or even go larger on the carb inlet


 

 

as for Swagelok, you might prefer buying plywood. It will be cheaper.

 

 

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I think I robbed a ford starter solenoid and put on my 400 once, they are similar. 

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7 hours ago, iowaboy1965 said:

Curious why you want a bigger line?

I am running short of fuel running down the track . Copper is 1/4" inside and I assume that the stock was  a little bit bigger than that

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45 minutes ago, bitty said:

I am running short of fuel running down the track . Copper is 1/4" inside and I assume that the stock was  a little bit bigger than that

I have my 450 apart now and need to replace the fuel light me was looking at the stainless one Steiner has to get rid of the copper line on mine 

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Just now, forwhldrv said:

I have my 450 apart now and need to replace the fuel light me was looking at the stainless one Steiner has to get rid of the copper line on mine 

Mine was stuck now it’s freed up hope to start putting it back together soon 

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My second 450 is getting looked at now also. I found it was taking a little water in the exhaust. I think I caught it just in time. We towed it around last night in 4th gear and I lubed up the cylinders with JB80 . I am hoping to swap the fuel tank, weld the exhaust manifold, put a battery on it and see what happens. I had it run for a few seconds last year but didn't spend the time on it

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1 hour ago, bitty said:

My second 450 is getting looked at now also. I found it was taking a little water in the exhaust. I think I caught it just in time. We towed it around last night in 4th gear and I lubed up the cylinders with JB80 . I am hoping to swap the fuel tank, weld the exhaust manifold, put a battery on it and see what happens. I had it run for a few seconds last year but didn't spend the time on it

Ya mine had to come apart it got a little water in number 3 and it was stuck it’s freed up good now got the sticky valves in the head freed up and lapped in hope to get it back together and running soon one of my Super M’s gets water in the exhaust around the pipe threads 

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18 minutes ago, forwhldrv said:

Ya mine had to come apart it got a little water in number 3 and it was stuck it’s freed up good now got the sticky valves in the head freed up and lapped in hope to get it back together and running soon one of my Super M’s gets water in the exhaust around the pipe threads 

This wasn't running but it sounded even when we towed it behind the C . I think the valves and such are operating correctly yet 

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1 hour ago, bitty said:

This wasn't running but it sounded even when we towed it behind the C . I think the valves and such are operating correctly yet 

I had mine running when I got it a few years ago then it sat and the cover blew off the exhaust and got water in it and  nobody told me till I went to turn it over a few months later and it was stuck I didn’t have time to work on it so I filled the cylinders with ATF and Diesel even filled the manifold up then covered it up and left it for over a year now I want to get it restored I will need to split it and  check out the clutch and figure the TA out it does nothing when you move the lever back and forth  then I want to get the hubs and rims swapped for the spin outs I bought for it and paint it up I found all the Tin work off a 400 a few years ago that’s all painted up nice  I want to put the white on it 

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I wasn't able to get the manifold welded . I cut the air intake away from the exhaust on two different ones that were both IH and I am using the air side from the propane and the exhaust from another one. I noticed that all 4 of the air tube hose clamps are IH ones, hoses look original too . 

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Front fuel tank mount is homemade. Glad I have a selection of parts tractor skeletons to pick at . I'm hoping to get this tank clean enough to use on my pulling one as this is a small tank . 

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Fuel tank pulled out to clean up and swap . Was this a diesel tank? It has two ports in the bottom, front mount was adapted because the bolt pattern appears to be closer on this short tank . 

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After cleaning up the tank I see it says 350D in marker on the side. This solves some questions about it. Bracket is different up front. 

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