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Our next model is the 1586. We do not own a 1586 so the pictures are once again ones I found. The first is a sales literature picture and the second is just a pretty good looking 15 the way they were back in the day. Always liked the look of the 15's with those deep dish rear cast wheels. They just look tough. Never had a desire to own one though for the lack of road gear compared to the 14. Here we go 1586 fans and owners, let's see em!:D

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Interesting observation to me on the sales picture. Most 15's had 20.8's which this one does, it also has 14L fronts which were not nearly as common. It also lacks the rear fender lights. I find it interesting that in 1981 a farmer who would need a large tractor that was equipped with big tires wouldn't want the rear work lights. By this time in history we were all farming in the dark. Just seems like there shouldn't have been a 1586 without the lights at this time. Just an observation.

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I'm pretty sure those are just 11.00x16s on the sales picture. 

We bought an early 1586 new and it's still in the family but it needs a little love to be nice again. I'll have to search the computer for some older pictures. Dad was always impressed with how it would pull. He never has seemed to really think our Magnum was much of an improvement if you kept the 4wd kicked out. It was our big tractor and was mostly a tillage tractor most of its life until we got the Magnum and then went no till.  It's mostly relegated to loader work now, it's loaded a lot of silage out of Ag Bags. Think it had 9 some thousand hours on it last I looked. It's had motor, TA, rear end, and brake work done in its life. It was swapped to a dual PTO early on too. Early steps, early shifters, round mechanical tach. Hydraulic seat, 3 remotes. It always wore 20.8s and 11.00x16s, water in the inner tires but duals were dry, and a couple sets of wheel weights.

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It was after this workout that it needed rear end work from what I remember Dad saying. We have a 3 tooth subsoiler, I'm not sure why we were running a 5 tooth.

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It's almost as steep as it looks, gotta turn your phone to straighten the trees but its still steep, thats why we left the duals on.

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Don't have one, but I watched this stout looking beast go at an auction a little ways north of me. Brought $12,5000. Though somewhat unrelated to the model in the post, the other tractor of interest at that auction was a bareback 4586 with duals. It was in darned good shape & went for only $5900. $5900!!!!!!!! I just about cried. ? I have no space for such a beauty & would not want it sitting out.

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2 hours ago, Super A_sepa said:

I'm pretty sure those are just 11.00x16s on the sales picture. 

We bought an early 1586 new and it's still in the family but it needs a little love to be nice again. I'll have to search the computer for some older pictures. Dad was always impressed with how it would pull. He never has seemed to really think our Magnum was much of an improvement if you kept the 4wd kicked out. It was our big tractor and was mostly a tillage tractor most of its life until we got the Magnum and then went no till.  It's mostly relegated to loader work now, it's loaded a lot of silage out of Ag Bags. Think it had 9 some thousand hours on it last I looked. It's had motor, TA, rear end, and brake work done in its life. It was swapped to a dual PTO early on too. Early steps, early shifters, round mechanical tach. Hydraulic seat, 3 remotes. It always wore 20.8s and 11.00x16s, water in the inner tires but duals were dry, and a couple sets of wheel weights.

Found pictures:

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It was after this workout that it needed rear end work from what I remember Dad saying. We have a 3 tooth subsoiler, I'm not sure why we were running a 5 tooth.

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It's almost as steep as it looks, gotta turn your phone to straighten the trees but its still steep, thats why we left the duals on.

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Those fronts are 14L's. Look at the rims, only the 11 inch rims have the extra step in them. Compare them to the other picture, it has 10 inch wheels with 11.00's.

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1 hour ago, INTERNATIONAL 1466 said:

Those fronts are 14L's. Look at the rims, only the 11 inch rims have the extra step in them. Compare them to the other picture, it has 10 inch wheels with 11.00's.

I see that now. The big rubber looks good as long as it has big enough rubber in the rear!

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Have owned 3 different ones over the years. Have a Polaroid of the first one at Mom's. The nice one pictured I bought off Everett's sale in '96 or '97. Should have kept my hand down at the auction. It just needed to go to the salvage yard. Red Power one left a few years ago to Zanesville Ohio. Don't plan on owning another again. 15s had hard lives for the most part.

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We have had two 1586 in the last 25 years but I don't have any pictures. The first one was a factory TA delete that needed 1st+2nd gear fixed when we got it along with brakes. We put over 20k hours on it between the manure pump and a TMR mixer tractor later in her life. We never took the duals off . I always liked that tractor. Even pulled a 13' center pivot mower in second high at one farm we rent 

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10 hours ago, INTERNATIONAL 1466 said:

Interesting observation to me on the sales picture. Most 15's had 20.8's which this one does, it also has 14L fronts which were not nearly as common. It also lacks the rear fender lights. I find it interesting that in 1981 a farmer who would need a large tractor that was equipped with big tires wouldn't want the rear work lights. By this time in history we were all farming in the dark. Just seems like there shouldn't have been a 1586 without the lights at this time. Just an observation.

As far as the fender lights go it could be a picture of an early one that was "doctored" for the newer brochure

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Not a very good picture but this is my brother’s. He bought it a long time ago not long after he started farming. Originally it did tillage, planted with it for a few years, but doesn’t get used much anymore. We used it on an old grain cart for a few years, the lack of a 4th gear didn’t make it ideal for that job, but it got the job done.

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1 hour ago, Big Bud guy said:

First time I’ve seen grass seeder attachments on 9400/9450s.  

You must not of had any wild oats back in the 80's when the boxes where used for dry Fargo wild oat herbicide. Not enough sales/acres of it used in California so they never redid the safty studies and was no longer available by the 90's. But for about 5 or 6 years grass boxes got put on all manor of older drills.

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14 minutes ago, ray54 said:

You must not of had any wild oats back in the 80's when the boxes where used for dry Fargo wild oat herbicide. Not enough sales/acres of it used in California so they never redid the safty studies and was no longer available by the 90's. But for about 5 or 6 years grass boxes got put on all manor of older drills.

Just the opposite.  We had so much wild oats going back to the 70s we would patch out and hay the bad spots.  Even had to marked them on the FSA maps.  Got bad enough we had to start controlling them.  But we used Valmar spreaders.  Some were mounted on plows or heavy harrows.  The rest were pulled by pickups.  We had both. Fargo was more effective if applied in the fall hence the reason nobody around here used grass boxes on drills.  We would apply NH3 in the fall and our plow was the same with as the Valmar at 48ft.  So we would just drive on the tracks left by the tank.  Crude form of GPS.  

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 Guess the boxes were on there when I got it. They are a little different shade of green so must of been added. They work good for canola. Have also used them for grasses. Not many people farm this way anymore but work good for my application. Doesn’t make the 15 work to hard

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7 minutes ago, jimw said:

Doesn’t make the 15 work to hard

I don't imagine they do.  We pulled 40ft with our 4640.  I have neighbor that uses 4 of them on a JD hitch/transport hooked Flexi Coil 300 plow.  Pulls the setup with a CIH 9270 Steiger.  He's about the only one left still using box drills and we seed have of his place for him.  

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1 hour ago, Big Bud guy said:

Just the opposite.  We had so much wild oats going back to the 70s we would patch out and hay the bad spots.  Even had to marked them on the FSA maps.  Got bad enough we had to start controlling them.  But we used Valmar spreaders.  Some were mounted on plows or heavy harrows.  The rest were pulled by pickups.  We had both. Fargo was more effective if applied in the fall hence the reason nobody around here used grass boxes on drills.  Few guys used Gandy boxes.  We would apply NH3 in the fall and our plow was the same with as the Valmar at 48ft.  So we would just drive on the tracks left by the tank.  Crude form of GPS.  

 

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