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19 hours ago, shot_gun_red said:

Sledge this is the one I see no markings , came out of a building that was tore down in the 70s.

@shot_gun_red I did some looking and I’m fairly certain yours is a Badger anvil. It won’t necessarily be marked but the areas I marked in the pics are a tell tale that I don’t know of on any other maker. It also has a very defined face like the ones in the adds that is slightly oversized to the body by design. 

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50 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

@shot_gun_red I did some looking and I’m fairly certain yours is a Badger anvil. It won’t necessarily be marked but the areas I marked in the pics are a tell tale that I don’t know of on any other maker. It also has a very defined face like the ones in the adds that is slightly oversized to the body by design. 

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Thanks for the info!
I really thought it was a real early like 50-60s overseas unit!

Don’t look near as quality as my PW

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31 minutes ago, shot_gun_red said:

Thanks for the info!
I really thought it was a real early like 50-60s overseas unit!

Don’t look near as quality as my PW

I’d say there is nothing wrong with one. They look more machine made than some makers and I would say they never made the volume that other makers did but there were several foundries in that area of the country and I have no reason to believe they lacked in quality. A more rare maker for sure but I don’t know that rarity adds value unless you find a guy that wants to collect various makers. 

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Sledge:  i love seeing the pictures from your old catalogs!  It is amazing the variety of thing that were made back then.. I have looked at an old IH catalogue, and there are things I have never heard of before, along with literally a hundred different varieties of plows and cultivators!  I also looked in an old Klien Tool catalog and was amazed at how many specialty pliers they made!

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8 minutes ago, Rawleigh99 said:

Sledge:  i love seeing the pictures from your old catalogs!  It is amazing the variety of thing that were made back then.. I have looked at an old IH catalogue, and there are things I have never heard of before, along with literally a hundred different varieties of plows and cultivators!  I also looked in an old Klien Tool catalog and was amazed at how many specialty pliers they made!

Thanks.  These pics are old advertisements from a book on anvils. I have a couple old hardware catalogs from 1920 and before. Lots of interesting stuff in those for sure. Just trying to keep history from being forgotten completely. There is no reason why this stuff that is 100yrs old or more can’t be used for its intended purpose. 

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22 minutes ago, Rawleigh99 said:

I find it's usually a better quality than what you can buy now.

You are 100% correct in my opinion. 

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1 hour ago, lightninboy said:

Ours seems to have a 1 9 8 on one side which seems to be typical of Hay-Budden.

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Almost all of those are sample anvils. Hay Budden did normally have a weight stamped on them. Some were struck deeper than others depending on the day. They also had a serial number and inspector markings.  Being an American manufacturer they had the actual weight stamped on them vs the English anvils with their hundred weight system.

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There has been a broken anvil here my whole life, never gave it much thought until all the anvil talk here. Had assumed it was a cheap one since it was broken. But a real Hay-Budden. I have moved it several times so I know it is just over 100 pounds. My dad told me a neighbor gave it to him. The neighbor was a big bargain hunter at auctions or yard sales. If he thought it was cheap he would buy anything.

The fourth picture is not the best angle, but that is the edge of the hardy whole. The top edges very rounded. But all in all still very usable.

 ?  But how big of a rubber hammer did it take break this thing? ?

I wonder what this would bring at auction.

I guess a previses owner was named E Hart by chisel marks in third picture. I am surprised at all the center punch marks at the base. But I saw them on one the ones in the auction listed in one of the previse posts. Was this maybe the blacksmith testing new center punches they had made?

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I posted this previously

I can't see any manufacturers labels.

It looks like there was a massive casting flaw where it broke.

It came from the far NW of Australia where "faulty, return to supplier" is a problem even in these days.  So I'll bet that the air was blue the day that broke.

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6 hours ago, ray54 said:

There has been a broken anvil here my whole life, never gave it much thought until all the anvil talk here. Had assumed it was a cheap one since it was broken. But a real Hay-Budden. I have moved it several times so I know it is just over 100 pounds. My dad told me a neighbor gave it to him. The neighbor was a big bargain hunter at auctions or yard sales. If he thought it was cheap he would buy anything.

The fourth picture is not the best angle, but that is the edge of the hardy whole. The top edges very rounded. But all in all still very usable.

 ?  But how big of a rubber hammer did it take break this thing? ?

I wonder what this would bring at auction.

I guess a previses owner was named E Hart by chisel marks in third picture. I am surprised at all the center punch marks at the base. But I saw them on one the ones in the auction listed in one of the previse posts. Was this maybe the blacksmith testing new center punches they had made?

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Nothing wrong with that!  
It stinks that it is broken but still usable. Won’t bring as much in an auction setting as it would complete. If someone wanted for a user or just to straighten things occasionally, it would be fine. 

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22 hours ago, nomorejohndeere said:

 

They wouldn’t dare do that to a real sized anvil. I could destroy one of those toy sample sized anvils pretty quickly with a hammer.......Maybe I need to try it?  How many licks will it take with an 8lb sledge before it is destroyed.  Need to find a harbor freight junker for this project and talk to my safety advisor ? I do my own stunts you know. LOL

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3 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

They wouldn’t dare do that to a real sized anvil. I could destroy one of those toy sample sized anvils pretty quickly with a hammer.......Maybe I need to try it?  How many licks will it take with an 8lb sledge before it is destroyed.  Need to find a harbor freight junker for this project and talk to my safety advisor ? I do my own stunts you know. LOL

Full leathers for riding motorcycle , safety glasses, clear face shield and a helmet etc. I had a sliver of steel from a caterpillar track rolled fly and go through the tip of a finger once 

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2 hours ago, bitty said:

Full leathers for riding motorcycle , safety glasses, clear face shield and a helmet etc. I had a sliver of steel from a caterpillar track rolled fly and go through the tip of a finger once 

Ouch....

I was actually kinda being serious about that part because I could see the whole thing flying off also. Need a way to be close enough to swing the hammer while keeping it from hitting me. ? I found the victim. (For obvious reasons). 

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Well i finally remembeted to take pix of my anvil i bought it  20 yrs ago id say - its had the top replaced it seems no clue what it is or age some marks i saw on it - what do you think @Sledgehammer

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3 minutes ago, searcyfarms said:

Well i finally remembeted to take pix of my anvil i bought it  20 yrs ago id say - its had the top replaced it seems no clue what it is or age some marks i saw on it 

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Looks like a Trenton anvil. 130lbs. Depression on bottom means after 1910. Serial number has an extra digit compared to normal but I’m going to say 1913 based on a 121 start to the serial number and the way the rest of it looks. The top is original, not replaced. Looks to be is pretty good shape. ??

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6 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

Looks like a Trenton anvil. 130lbs. Depression on bottom means after 1910. Serial number has an extra digit compared to normal but I’m going to say 1913 based on a 121 start to the serial number and the way the rest of it looks. The top is original, not replaced. Looks to be is pretty good shape. ??

hmmmm well all be, so they are a separate piece like that on top interesting - were trenton from around the midwest? thanks for the info thats some pretty cool stuff right there - what is the reason for the depression no the bottom, ? it feels every bit of 130 lbs wallowing it around lol 

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11 minutes ago, searcyfarms said:

hmmmm well all be, so they are a separate piece like that on top interesting - were trenton from around the midwest? thanks for the info thats some pretty cool stuff right there - what is the reason for the depression no the bottom, ? it feels every bit of 130 lbs wallowing it around lol 

Trenton was a moniker of the Columbus forge and tool company from Columbus Ohio. 

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