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20 minutes ago, Paystar5000 said:

I have used a 1/2 to 3/4 that would do 1000 ft lbs and a harbor freight 3/4 to 1 one that would do 1500.  Both worked.  One situation I used it on was to tighten the frame to trunnion bolts on a Mack.  Other time was to tighten the bolt that holds the lower center pin in on a payloaders.  Probably other times I have forgotten about.  I have been told the cheaper ones are not as accurate.  That sounds like a pretty fair price for that OTC.  You want to find a pretty stout piece of round tubing to go on the multiplier handle.  

I would find a little better one like that otc. The cat c15 bolts and other big engines are 450 or more ft lbs torque. Being old and fat it takes more to get them done. I am going to buy one just to have one to use.  Most engines are so much torque then so much turn. That is were torque multiplier would work just turn then. Lots of pro guys though do the torque mark the bolt and rattle them with a big impact.

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I think there were pictures of hammer collections on the "IH tractors on a Montana  farm" Gary likes to "hunt" the second hand store and Shelgehammer got inspired and shared his collection as well...........................but I have had memories before that were dreams instead.

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I will work on some pictures this weekend. I do have pictures of the couple hammers I’ve made and also hatchets and tomahawks. I don’t always take pictures of the store bought hammers that get new handles. I’m like anyone else, I have certain things I look for. I like any sort of blacksmithing hammer because I can take an antique and still use it for its intended purpose. Most of the old stuff is higher quality than anything new you could buy now anyhow. I use certain ones for certain processes because of size, shape, or even finish. Some move metal, some planish metal. All depends on the desired outcome. My favorite is the first one I made from scratch. If I put pics of all that stuff somewhere, people would get bored and quit paying attention. 

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I have always wanted a torq multiplier BUT actually have never had a real use for one. Currently have a bus conversion RV that runs 500 FT # lug nuts, Northern tool has one that will help out for less than $200. Looks  sturdy, Engineers on ships I was attached to always had one but it cost $$$ and carefully controlled asset! I haven't used them but did purchase a 42" 3/4 drive breaker bar and a deep socket for the wheel nuts.

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Two fat guys standing on a eight foot pipe on a 3/4" breaker bar equals approx 500 ft. Lbs. or so I've been told.?

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There's one in the Cat tool catalog that's around 18:1. Rated over 4000 ft lb. Don't know the price but glad I never had to buy my own.

I used the weight/lever equation all the time to torque things where a torque wrench or multiplier wouldn't fit.

Then there's the productivity torque wrenches..... 3/8", 1/2", 3/4", 1" impacts.

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On 2/18/2021 at 2:59 PM, 1586 Jeff said:

The only way that you can acceptably apologize to me is to put up a link to your hammer collection for M.C.Farmerboy.  I do not think that he is prepared for it.....

It’s in the plan for tomorrow as long as time allows. I’ve never had it all out at once. I may have to clear out a good sized spot on the shop floor..... If anyone asks for serial numbers or threatens a mandatory buyback of this stuff they better bring their mean friends. Just saying. ?

On 2/18/2021 at 3:33 PM, m.c.farmerboy said:

I can see that I'm going to have to stop in to your place on my next trip west, I'm big into Axes, and anvils

No official throwing axes. Got a couple smaller pieces made by Gransfors Bruks. I’ve always liked Norlund also and have felt that they are fairly well made. I will try and get some axe/hatchet photos also. A buddy of mine that we lost in an accident a few years ago went to sales with me all the time. He would almost always bring an axe home. Nobody knew why but he would. After losing him I never hesitate to buy an axe at a sale. Fond memories. 

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11 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

It’s in the plan for tomorrow as long as time allows. I’ve never had it all out at once. I may have to clear out a good sized spot on the shop floor..... If anyone asks for serial numbers or threatens a mandatory buyback of this stuff they better bring their mean friends. Just saying. ?

No official throwing axes. Got a couple smaller pieces made by Gransfors Bruks. I’ve always liked Norlund also and have felt that they are fairly well made. I will try and get some axe/hatchet photos also. A buddy of mine that we lost in an accident a few years ago went to sales with me all the time. He would almost always bring an axe home. Nobody knew why but he would. After losing him I never hesitate to buy an axe at a sale. Fond memories. 

Do you have any Winchester axes or hatchets ? any axe can be a throwing axe  an old trick was when a green chopper would show up one of the older choppers would ask to inspect his axe, then he would take and throw the axe and stick it tree high enough so the newbe would have to chop the tree down to to get his axe back.

In those days axe handle and weight  were custom fit to each Man 

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51 minutes ago, m.c.farmerboy said:

Do you have any Winchester axes or hatchets ? any axe can be a throwing axe  an old trick was when a green chopper would show up one of the older choppers would ask to inspect his axe, then he would take and throw the axe and stick it tree high enough so the newbe would have to chop the tree down to to get his axe back.

In those days axe handle and weight  were custom fit to each Man 

No Winchester axes. Not really a collector, just go after stuff I like the looks of. Got everything from Montgomery Wards to Keen Kutter.  Most of the time I find a head, clean it up and put a handle in it so it could be used. Some of the Norlund stuff seems to command good money when I see it for sale. I doubt there is any need to get too excited about rarity. 

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5 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

No Winchester axes. Not really a collector, just go after stuff I like the looks of. Got everything from Montgomery Wards to Keen Kutter.  Most of the time I find a head, clean it up and put a handle in it so it could be used. Some of the Norlund stuff seems to command good money when I see it for sale. 

do you find any broad axes in your area?

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7 minutes ago, m.c.farmerboy said:

do you find any broad axes in your area?

Very few. If you do they are pitted and horribly worn. When this area was settled a lot of the work was done with cross cut saws and less with axes. My Grandfather and Great Grandfather cut all the trees that were milled for what is now my house. (Built in 49) Mostly oak.  The barns have oak and a lot of poplar in them. Not totally sure on barn build dates but they date back to the 1800’s for sure. This house was built in 49 on a site that they tore down a 100+ year old house that was in the family also. Tore old one down and built right away on same spot. Family has been here since at least the 1830’s

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I know I have steered this thread way off track. We can talk about it all anybody wants to in a thread I start later. I like older stuff vs new, generally because of build quality.  I find it satisfying to use something that was made long ago but is still just a viable for the task today. I like axes and hatchets because every boy likes stuff like that growing up I think.  But, I’m not wearing buckskin pants and living in a debris shelter in the woods. I own a chainsaw and believe there is a simpler way to do things today. 

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