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2250 loader mount brackets for IH884 utility tractor


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what style brackets to you have now ? are they for a 3 cylinder tractor454-464 or the heavier for the 484 and newer? the bolt holes would be different but the brackets have to be the same overall length a picture would help

 

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Hi my brother has an IH 2250 loader on his CIH 3230 newer version of the 584, before he bought the 3230 it was on his CIH 495 - 3cyl German Diesel and when we moved it to the 3230 - 4 cyl German Diesel all we had to do was select a different set of pre-drilled holes in the loader frame that attached to the tractor.

See photo below from CIH parts: Items 9, 12 and 13 have different sets of holes drilled for the 54/74/84/95/32XX/42XX tractors lengths for 3 or 4 cyl engines.
Item 10 fits one way for the 3 cyl and turn it around for the 4 cyl tractor. The only problem we had was that item 10 was missing one bolt hole for the 4 cyl configuration so we had to drill it. Must have been coffee or quitting time when item 10 was made for my brother's 2250.992632323_CIH2250LoaderFrame.thumb.JPG.572112f2d823c85ec03cd83ed4774961.JPG

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6 hours ago, R190 said:

the bolt holes would be different but the brackets have to be the same overall length

Winner.  The loader is the same length no matter which tractor it is on.  Bracket may not bolt to the tractor, but should fit the loader just fine. 

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39 minutes ago, Clay Haden said:

I believe the brackets I have, have been modified, so I am not sure what they started off as. They lack about an inch of being long enough to clear the grill in front. Thanks IMG_2807.thumb.jpg.cce069316c2c50ee87b086a18f0f6f7a.jpgIMG_2808.thumb.jpg.1e80e8e5ad5b6c7d411247fa9de2c34d.jpgIMG_2808.thumb.jpg.1e80e8e5ad5b6c7d411247fa9de2c34d.jpgIMG_2807.thumb.jpg.cce069316c2c50ee87b086a18f0f6f7a.jpg

I think the bottom end bolts should be in the 2 forward holes on the clutch housing. That would push the whole thing ahead a couple inches. I have brackets on the 784 that I could get a picture of.

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2 minutes ago, Clay Haden said:

Thanks to everyone for the replys. I would like to see a picture of the 784 bracket, if possible. I appreciate it. 

You have those brackets. Those are the ones for an 84 series. (And other series tractors.)

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Those are the earlier stlye brackets most commonly on the 74 series tractors with the factory reinforcements the picture of the nice shiny  repainted brackets posted by oldiron29 are the most common 84 series bracket I believe you can make them work but the back may have to be lengthened and some redrilling will be needed.

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there's timing for you. My 784 has 2 by the clutch, and 4 on the front end. It was sporting a 2250 loader with a 7' bucket when I got it. It hasn't been babied.

I copied the same brackets off Dad's 784 and made a set of mounts for a hydro 84 that I had before I got the 784.

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Put the 4 bolts for the upright in the plate before you put the 2 bolts in the clutch housing. Much easier to tighten the 2.

 

Now I see the difference in brackets that R190 referred to. Your front with the the C cutout is separate from the longer piece, isn't it?

Do you have the upright pieces for your mounts? Maybe they attach with just 3 bolts?

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1 hour ago, ny bill o said:

Now I see the difference in brackets that R190 referred to. Your front with the the C cutout is separate from the longer piece, isn't it?

I did not notice that either.  I do now.  R190 is correct.  My bad. 

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With the way the bolt holes show use they were on a 454 or 464 before more than likely. also the the directions we got with the reinforcement package said to weld them to the existing front bracket and it looks like somebody didn't tack them sufficiently enough before taking it off to weld hence the torched up hole I personaly would drill  the upper front hole thats missing and the middle front hole so you have a reverse upside down bolt pattern like the clutch housing has  add as much to the back as needed to catch the front 2 holes in the clutch housing. thanks ny bill o for the picture 

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I bought a pallet of 2250 mount parts at a dealer closeout a long time ago. It had a pair of the front brackets on the pallet. i wondered where they would fit.

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5 minutes ago, ny bill o said:

I bought a pallet of 2250 mount parts at a dealer closeout a long time ago. It had a pair of the front brackets on the pallet. i wondered where they would fit.

I would never use those brackets with out the reinforcement package back when those tractors were new before they realized they had a problem bolster or oil pan breakage would happen it wasn't too bad if it happened on a gas tractor as the engine was US sourced ( Indianapolis) as a oil pan was readily available but it was not uncommon to hear dealers say they waited up to a couple of months to get a pan from England or Germany air freight was not that common back then. I think I might know of a tractor right now that has a mount broken off the bolster

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I have had 2250 loaders on Farmall 656 hydros since 1990. I made plates to bridge from the clutch to the front bolster, after breaking several mounting Gr8 bolts and a side rail. You can sort of see it behind the horizontal part of the loader frame.

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On 1/23/2021 at 12:11 PM, Clay Haden said:

Hello,

I have a 2250 loader that I would like to install on my IH884 tractor, but the mount brackets are too short. Is there any body that makes the correct mount brackets for a 884 tractor? 

To answer your original question, not in a long, long time. The 2250 loader has been out of production since the late 1980's.

Like the others have said it looks like you'll be okay just moving the brackets ahead one hole. Otherwise your best course of action will be to have the brackets you currently have modified.

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