1586 Jeff Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I have been having trouble with the rosebud head on my torch popping. A LOT!!! My neighbors must think that I am playing with firecrackers. I never used to have trouble with my rosebud until a couple of years ago. I have tried cleaning it with a torch tip cleaner, but it still pops. If I back away from the workpiece it will stop popping, but no heat is being applied. I am looking for suggestions on how to fix this. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Turn up the pressure on your fuel gas is the normal fix, but maybe I am missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I do not know them fix but i have had to send them out before, they come back working i don’t complain. What brand? Smiths have some dodad in there that can become damaged and need repairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 You have too big of a tip for your tank . Ours does the same thing. I just watched a video on torch operation last night that went over this Around the 34 minute mark he talks about the rosebud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1586 Jeff Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 This is a Victor/Purox. I am not sure if it is a W200 or W300, I have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1586 Jeff Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, bitty said: You have too big of a tip for your tank . Ours does the same thing. I just watched a video on torch operation last night that went over this Or I am running out of acetylene? The tank is low on gas AND I have a kinked hose that I noticed when I was taking the regulators of to put them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, 1586 Jeff said: Or I am running out of acetylene? The tank is low on gas AND I have a kinked hose that I noticed when I was taking the regulators of to put them away. What size are your tanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehammer Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I’d say you could be running out of acetylene pressure and or the gas itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomorejohndeere Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I had the same problem awhile back and couldn't put my finger on it. Bought new hoses, cleaned tips, used up my bottles and exchanged. In the end it was the regulator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveinSD Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Check to o rings at the base of the rosebud where you screw it into the torch head. If one of these is damaged you will get a lot of popping and very little heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finney Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Gas pressure to low Regulator not large enough ( won't flow enough) Hose too small for the needed flow O-rings bad where the rose bud screws on the torch body tip on the rose bud loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.c.farmerboy Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Make sure you have the correct tip for the fuel gas, I have seen people make that mistake and as AK said your fuel PSI needs to be up but don't go above 15 stay out of the red zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VacDaddyt Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 A little safety here. Most people do not understand the 15 psi rule on acetylene. If you need more gas when you reach 15 it is time for changes of your equipment as there can be dangerous unwanted explosion. Was setting up a cutting station at a high school and had to get a manifold set up with multiple tanks and proper sized piping. Also the separation of the acetone and acetylene does not happen correctly as you "bleed" it out of solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, VacDaddyt said: A little safety here. Most people do not understand the 15 psi rule on acetylene. If you need more gas when you reach 15 it is time for changes of your equipment as there can be dangerous unwanted explosion. Was setting up a cutting station at a high school and had to get a manifold set up with multiple tanks and proper sized piping. Also the separation of the acetone and acetylene does not happen correctly as you "bleed" it out of solution. I think that is what the tank size is talked about on the video I posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightninboy Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 My general rule is if you go 6 psi acetylene, 30 psi oxygen for cutting torch, go 12 psi acetylene, 15 psi oxygen for rosebud, but you might get good enough results using your rosebud on your cutting torch setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmi Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 if you are take it apart all the time check for dirt and spider nests in everything and that your hoses are not ancient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paystar5000 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 We had all the same problems with our rosebud. Bought bigger hoses didn’t help. Was told to manifold two acetylene cylinders together with a high flow regulator. At the time our sales rep for the welding store was a very sharp guy. He set us up with propelyne torch with a big heating tip. That thing works great and puts out more heat than any rosebud I have ever touched and is easy to use. The propelyne lasts longer than acetylene. You can cut with it also but I have never had time to try it out. IMHO if you can’t get your rosebud to work with minimal expense check into this. It didn’t cost that much for the regulators and handle. I got it from Haun welding. I think there is one of those up your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1586 Jeff Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Paystar5000 said: We had all the same problems with our rosebud. Bought bigger hoses didn’t help. Was told to manifold two acetylene cylinders together with a high flow regulator. At the time our sales rep for the welding store was a very sharp guy. He set us up with propelyne torch with a big heating tip. That thing works great and puts out more heat than any rosebud I have ever touched and is easy to use. The propelyne lasts longer than acetylene. You can cut with it also but I have never had time to try it out. IMHO if you can’t get your rosebud to work with minimal expense check into this. It didn’t cost that much for the regulators and handle. I got it from Haun welding. I think there is one of those up your way. There is a Haun Welding store as well as an Airgas store nearby. However, the rosebud always USED TO WORK with my hoses, tanks, and regulators. I have checked and the o rings are toast on the rosebud attachment where it connects to the torch handle as well as the acetylene hose has some signs of being kinked where it takes off from the regulator. Are the o rings specific to a torch or will generic o rings suffice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizonian Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Check to see if the butt has been dropped and there is a ding or high spot or oval shape on the female taper. Similar to what an o-ring failure on the torch will cause, but new o-rings won't fix this. Running out of gas or not enough pressure would have been my first guess but you said it used to run good and now it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMOKER 1 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Mine, the tip is loose. How can that be fixed? jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtfireman85 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/20/2021 at 9:11 PM, 1586 Jeff said: There is a Haun Welding store as well as an Airgas store nearby. However, the rosebud always USED TO WORK with my hoses, tanks, and regulators. I have checked and the o rings are toast on the rosebud attachment where it connects to the torch handle as well as the acetylene hose has some signs of being kinked where it takes off from the regulator. Are the o rings specific to a torch or will generic o rings suffice? I often have to replace orings, I just use generic ones from my kit. They crack periodically, but i have seen no signs of strange deterioration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arizonian Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 hours ago, SMOKER 1 said: Mine, the tip is loose. How can that be fixed? jerry Victor torch? Depends on the size and gas. Loose at the base where the brass male taper meets the shaft? Just screw it back in. Some of the big propane rosebuds you can buy a new head but they are spendy. I think acetylene rosebuds have a silver soldered head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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