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what are ledger plates?


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They are used in the old style single rock guards they are riveted in under the lip to give a new cutting edge, not very easy even with the special tool we had.  I always changed to the double combine style guards.

 

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I wonder if it depends on the area and soil type wether they were desired in that area ? 

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37 minutes ago, bitty said:

I wonder if it depends on the area and soil type wether they were desired in that area ? 

That too, never saw them on a bean head, but always on the mowers. Dad always said if the ledger plates weren't good, leave the mower on the yard. They would mow alfalfa, but not grass.

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Mowers, binders, anything with knife guards would have replaceable ledger plates. I've got a few survivors here but haven't tried replacing one in years. The newer guards don't have them on anything I run. 

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Would have to go back a long time to see them in use around here.

None of my Rowse mowers had them but I bought used so they could have been replaced.

Throwaway guards are all I have ever used.

I would imagine the ledger plates were serrated so you would use a smooth section.

I used to use bottom serrated sections and smooth guards on my bar mowers. I would sharpen sickles every night. Hated it.

I now use top serrated sections and smooth guards on my swather. No sharpening! Freed up two hours a day!

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3 minutes ago, sandhiller said:

Would have to go back a long time to see them in use around here.

None of my Rowse mowers had them but I bought used so they could have been replaced.

Throwaway guards are all I have ever used.

I would imagine the ledger plates were serrated so you would use a smooth section.

I used to use bottom serrated sections and smooth guards on my bar mowers. I would sharpen sickles every night. Hated it.

I now use top serrated sections and smooth guards on my swather. No sharpening! Freed up two hours a day!

Both the inside and outer "shoes" should have ledger plates in them, unless you have gone to running a double guards on the outer end. The inner ledger plate looks quite a bit different. I have a couple of inners for a Kosch mower, but nothing for my IH or Rowse.

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Here are a couple of pages from a 1973 Parts and Accessories catalog showing mower parts.  I sold a lot of these parts back in the day, but do not remember any information to help decide which sickle section (smooth, overserrated underserrated, chrome, etc) was best for a particular use.  Has anyone here seen such information from IH?  Brian

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Here is some info. This comes from a 1976 literature piece IH came out with about the improvements IH has made in different machines in the last 145 years (1831-1976). I also have a nine minute film from 1964 that talks a little about the “quick change ledger plate system”  and what IH had to offer for sickle mower parts at the time.

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1 hour ago, Lazy WP said:

unless you have gone to running a double guards on the outer end.

That is what I did, I now remember. I made the thing that holds the grass board and got rid of the outer shoe entirely, just a double guard out there. I liked how it took weight off the end of the 9' bars. It's been a while now since I ran Rowse. 

Thanks for the refresher Nick. 

Here is what they look like. (on my Kosch)

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4 hours ago, sandhiller said:

That is what I did, I now remember. I made the thing that holds the grass board and got rid of the outer shoe entirely, just a double guard out there. I liked how it took weight off the end of the 9' bars. It's been a while now since I ran Rowse. 

Here is what they look like. (on my Kosch)

Better pictures in the light!

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5 hours ago, lightninboy said:

Better pictures in the light!

Yeah, sorry bout that. Snapped them quick before I left. Lighting was not my friend ?

I'll get some better ones.

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