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Any of you shotgun shell reloaders know why there are no primers available? Not even Factory shells are available!!

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There was an article on this Coffee Shop a few days ago that had a video of the President of CCI, etc., etc.., on it.

He said they are at 100%+ production and cannot keep up.

He said he gets calls and emails all the time.

Including death threats, for not having product on the shelf.

Fear is driving demand so everything for sale is bought, almost immediately.

I am watching an online auction where a box of .357 mags are bringing $35.00+/box and the auction ain't done.

Guns and ammo are now selling at a premium.

The shelves in the stores here are bare, except for the odd calibers.

 

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But why are specifically primers hard to get? I think that is what he means and I have wondered also.

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powder, brass and bullet are equally unavailable.  The reason is several fold, back in March and April when everything was closing down the buying public bought all stocks of everything, while deliveries are still being made they are being made into a vacuum and as soon as things hit the shelves they are getting snapped up.  If you happen to be there when stuff goes on the shelf you will buy what you can afford because you will remember the last several months of nothing being available.

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2 minutes ago, TP from Central PA said:

Might have to trade gold bars for 30-30 rounds here.............

You're not kidding there. Last fall I had one **** of a time finding 30 30 rounds. Found one box at Blaine's Farm and Fleet. No one else had anything. Ended up ordering some online that i finally stumbled across after a exhaustive search. I use that rifle sparingly at the moment.

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The demand may be escalated due to the impending Harris/Biden regime. Shelves were bare when Obama was elected as well without covid shutdowns. When the shelves get stocked the store limited purchases due to hoarding. I haven't been reloading much since my son went in the military and I lost my shooting partner; we went through lots of primers and powder. Luckily I had to ferry a plane that required ballasting. 250lb of #8s on the jump seat to meet the CG requirements that I "inherited" and haven't burned through yet. 

Democrats controlling government will be a boon to gun sales, again.

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Local Bomgaars still has shot shells but rifle/pistol ammo have been long gone.

Local gun shops are letting anything they have out very sparingly. I have even heard of some saying you have to buy a firearm to get any ammo in that caliber and then only two boxes. 

My distributors, if they have it, from loaded to components is on allocation meaning it goes to the biggest customers first. Of which I am not. 

There has to be some pretty good stockpiles around the country. Something we consider if called to a structure/house fire. 

Supplies should come back as they did during the Obamma scare but in this pending climate, nothing is certain. 

Keep your powder dry boys. 

 

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22 hours ago, TP from Central PA said:

Might have to trade gold bars for 30-30 rounds here.............

How many bars per box are you thinking? ?

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I C the large reloading supplier Ballistics specialists .com has check availability on each different primer number

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22 hours ago, TP from Central PA said:

Might have to trade gold bars for 30-30 rounds here.............

That might get me motivated to get those 30/30's done.... Tell the unc, uh, seem to have lost that brass.

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On 1/7/2021 at 12:35 PM, TP from Central PA said:

Might have to trade gold bars for 30-30 rounds here.............

Ill trade with ya, got plenty of inventory and got room in the safe for more gold bars

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im not a reloader so bear with me - IIRC shotgun primers work in centrfire rifle shells and maybe some pistols ? you wiz kids can school me on that so if that is the case think about it, you got people trying to reload EVERY caliber of rifle that uses them, shotguns, pistols possibly too thats a lot of primers folks!!

 

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19 minutes ago, searcyfarms said:

im not a reloader so bear with me - IIRC shotgun primers work in centrfire rifle shells and maybe some pistols ? you wiz kids can school me on that so if that is the case think about it, you got people trying to reload EVERY caliber of rifle that uses them, shotguns, pistols possibly too thats a lot of primers folks!!

 

Shotshell primers are different than rifle and pistol primers and will not work in them.

I'm not home to to post pics but Google pics and you can see the difference.

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10 hours ago, sandhiller said:

Shotshell primers are different than rifle and pistol primers and will not work in them.

I'm not home to to post pics but Google pics and you can see the difference.

maybe i am thinking of muzzleloaders and using shotgun primers, my buddy reloads all my stuff for me and I am pretty sure he uses shotgun primers in something other tahn shotguns or maybe i got my wires crossed, i could see that happening LOL

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2 minutes ago, searcyfarms said:

maybe i am thinking of muzzleloaders and using shotgun primers, my buddy reloads all my stuff for me and I am pretty sure he uses shotgun primers in something other tahn shotguns or maybe i got my wires crossed, i could see that happening LOL

Yes, many modern inline muzzleloaders utilize 209 shotgun primers. 

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Very big difference in primers, just below are shotgun primers.

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Just below this are what rifle or pistol primers look like.  Primers are not interchangeable, in addition you have standard and magnum in both rifle and pistol and large and small.  Lots of variation possible and you need to use the correct primer for the application that you are using to get good and consistent results.  I prefer Winchester Western and am not really interested in using other brands.

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I thought I was in good shape. I usually buy right along. If I see  a deal I scoop it up wether it's brass,bullets,primers or ammo. I have a box of Barnes copper monoliths in .429 and I don't even own a .44. But if was like the old days when I shot 1000's of rounds  year I'd be nervous. It's not hard to do. Couple mags a night after work adds up fast. Add a weekend shootout with friends. Being diligent with your chosen rifle(s) before a big out of State hunt. Old teammate of mine killed a 175 pound Cat outside of Kaycee day before yesterday. I'm for damsure going to keep practicing with my 32 Mag if I think I'm going after that.

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