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When I was young my Dad had an 856. It was the first tractor I drove doing tillage work. He traded it off years ago. Now I bought another one and I am restoring it to new condition. Sorry i have no pictures of it before restoration,,it was a greasy oil leaking mess but ran really nice. The hydraulic hitch and remote pump was weak when I was using it. Started on fuel system getting the roosamaster pump totally rebuilt and one new injector line. Removed radiator cause it leaked and ended up having a new core installed. Installed new front dampener and front cover seal and water pump and all the oil cooler hoses and radiator hoses,,they were all rotten and oil soaked. New rear engine seal and clutch pressure plate and PTO drive shaft plus numerous other gaskets on the engine. 

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Looking good. We have a 856 too its my favorite IH tractor we have. Don`t plan on ever selling it we`ve had multiple offers on it though 

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Awesome paint work!  Someone appears to know there way around a paint gun!  What paint?  Automotive?  Color?  Brand?

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17 hours ago, ohio farmer said:

Looking good. My dad bought a new 856 when i was in high school.

loved coming home after school or ball practice and plowing till i couldnt stay awake any longer.

I did the same thing. Once I was plowing with the 856 with no cab and it was snowing hard so here comes the folks with the pickup to tell me to quit,,,I pretended not to see them and made another round.

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14 hours ago, Dave-Sue said:

What did you clean the frame and engine with?

Sprayed on some engine degreaser from auto parts store and 3500 psi pressure washer with hot water. The hot water is the best part of the whole cleaning process. The rear end cover had an inch of greasy mess on it and it cleaned right up. 

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Thank you so much, you did a very good job with cleaning and painting. I have a 784 I would like to paint this coming spring, this will be a great deal of help, I had no Idea how too get all of that grease off.

Dave

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dave-Sue said:

Thank you so much, you did a very good job with cleaning and painting. I have a 784 I would like to paint this coming spring, this will be a great deal of help, I had no Idea how too get all of that grease off.

Dave

 

 

Thanks and good luck with your 784.

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This looks more like a repaint than a restoration.  Restorations have a lot more disassembly and rebuilding. 

What are you using to prep the metal? Wire wheel?  Primer, if so what?  Did you just sand the hoods and paint them? I don't see any primer over-spray on the frame rails.

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1 hour ago, J-Mech said:

This looks more like a repaint than a restoration.  Restorations have a lot more disassembly and rebuilding. 

What are you using to prep the metal? Wire wheel?  Primer, if so what?  Did you just sand the hoods and paint them? I don't see any primer over-spray on the frame rails.

Why be condescending?  One thing I've learned and noticed is that projects need to be attainable and manageable.  So many times I've seen people get overwhelmed with restorations they never get done.  Take one look on marketplace/craigslist/classifieds and see how many project vehicles just get sold.  

When I fixed my 15 up I did the TA, clutch, axle bearings, brakes, steering, shifting, pto and fixed the cab up and honestly, without Covid and an extra influx of spare time the stupid thing would still be sitting there.  Wanted to do the engine, paint it, and completely gut the rear end.  Had I done that it's likely it never would have gotten done.  I have a family, and have to make money not just spend it.  

IMO, car shows, and these restoration programs on TV have created a lot of unreasonable expectations.  As I say, a lot if stuff rolled out of factories having lousy paintwork/bodywork compared to stuff done today.   If you have the bank account and time.......sure, go for it.  Most of us dont have that luxury though. 

So @IH FARMS good job, that tractor will run for years to come and look good doing it.  As long as you're happy that's all that matters!

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2 hours ago, Cdfarabaugh said:

Why be condescending?

I wasn't being condescending.  Don't know why you took it that way. 

2 hours ago, Cdfarabaugh said:

IMO, car shows, and these restoration programs on TV have created a lot of unreasonable expectations.

Not for me it hasn't.  In my opinion the reason guys take tractors apart and fail to finish is because they got in way over their head to begin with.  I've literally taken tractors apart and reassembled them in the bay next to it.  Drove it in one door and out another.  Most people can't do that, but think they can.  They get it apart and can't figure out how to put it back together, so it sits.  I've put those projects back together too.  Buckets and boxes of parts.  

As far as my comment, I'm just saying it looks like a repaint and not a restoration.  Which is fine if that is the goal. Restoration of anything to me means tear down and at the very least check everything.  Be it a car, truck, tractor or house or a barn. 

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6 hours ago, J-Mech said:

This looks more like a repaint than a restoration.  Restorations have a lot more disassembly and rebuilding. 

What are you using to prep the metal? Wire wheel?  Primer, if so what?  Did you just sand the hoods and paint them? I don't see any primer over-spray on the frame rails.

  

1 hour ago, J-Mech said:

As long as you aren't a whine bag or a know it all who doesn't know, I'm generally pretty agreeable. 

riiight...

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Did a little more disassembling on the 856. Disassembled the diesel pump drive and installed new seals and gaskets. The diesel pump was completely disassembled at professional diesel shop and completely gone through. Installed new seal kit in steering hand pump. Removed all wiring and decided to go with all new harnesses. Disassembled rear wheels and going to sandblast castings prime and paint them. Got the clutch and brake pedals bored and new bushings installed and new shafts made that they pivot on. Replaced suction seal in hydraulic filter housing that leads to new hydraulic pump and new oring on main suction tube. Removed rear end top cover and found eccentric part#382828R91 worn out and slipping past the pin it rides on. Found a good one so that problem is solved. Installing new seals on top rockshaft and new orings on lower shaft. Disassembled lift cylinder and installed new seal kit. New axle seals and orings. Disassembled and rebuilt the PTO. My daughter has an AG class for school so she got a hands on project. She helped with the clutch job. She disassembled the remote control valves and installed new actuators and orings and reassembled. She also helped install the new hydraulic pump. 

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On 1/4/2021 at 8:17 AM, J-Mech said:

This looks more like a repaint than a restoration.  Restorations have a lot more disassembly and rebuilding. 

What are you using to prep the metal? Wire wheel?  Primer, if so what?  Did you just sand the hoods and paint them? I don't see any primer over-spray on the frame rails.

Red oxide primer over spray. Sheet metal was straightened and sanded to bare metal primed then painted. I never use a wire wheel. I put over 100 hours on this tractor doing various farm work. The engine runs very good.  The TA works great with good pressures. The rear end is also in great shape,,no iron in hydraulic filter or visible damage anywhere. No reason to disassemble something that isn't broken. This tractor just leaked everywhere and three point hitch didn't work and had a weak rear pump.

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53 minutes ago, nepoweshiekfarmalls said:

Sounds like you are giving it attention in the areas that need it.  Cleaning and painting behind close areas as you go makes sense. Eliminate paint shadows that way.

Thanks,,,,your 100% on...forgot to mention that I disassembled the tilt wheel and put in a new bushing.

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3 hours ago, IH FARMS said:

Thanks,,,,your 100% on...forgot to mention that I disassembled the tilt wheel and put in a new bushing.

Very nice tractor. Good job and work looks very nice. Never mind the snarky comments. I have found over the years people that gripe the most are jealous of your accomplishments. Seriously very good work show us a picture in all her majestic glory when done.

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