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55 minutes ago, lorenzo said:

That sure looks like it would be handy. 
 

Way better then using a chain saw type mill. 

Local bandsaw is 20', 30" throat. I havd a chainsaw mill for anything bigger(also loading and transport is a problem). Time wise for big timbers it's better. But i sure miss the Frick #1.

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Do you want a 30" wide board, or do you want to cut a 30" diameter log? The LT15 Wide will cut a board 34" or 36" wide, I think. I can highly recommend Wood-Mizer. My thing is long timbers.  My L

I've helped friends use woodmisers, other brands and home made band saw mills as well as circle saw mills. They all cut good lumber but the woodmisers are very nice. I've even been around commercial s

I have a woodmizer LT40 (1992) that I bought used at an auction about 10 years ago. I added a used debarker I found on clist even though they (WM) said it wouldn't work. It has hyd lift and turn and n

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I have a woodmizer LT40 (1992) that I bought used at an auction about 10 years ago. I added a used debarker I found on clist even though they (WM) said it wouldn't work. It has hyd lift and turn and non roller toe boards. I can't imagine sawing by myself without the hydraulics, though I usually load the logs with forks on a piece of equipment. I'm in the process of adding rollers to my backstops for flipping larger cants. I've been using 2 pieces of pipe, but that is pretty time consuming. I have cut some 20' boards, but that is the limit, and about 30" on the diameter. I have had 0 success trying to sell rough cut lumber around here, but have built a lot for myself making owning it still very worthwhile. If you get one, watch out for logs from "yard" trees. Most have metal in them somewhere, and while blades are all that expensive, it still costs money. I had a butternut log someone gave me that a regular band would not cut. It was just too hard. So I bought a special WM band just for that. I made it about 6" into the first slab cut and hit an old gate latch. Made some pretty firewood out of that log. Check out https://www.sawmillexchange.com/ for current pricing on used mills. I dealt with them when I sold my Frick 0 mill and they were great.

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4 hours ago, vtfireman85 said:

Maybe im off, 14 seem steep for an almost 4000 hr mill

Half the new price. I've only given them a cursory look but it seems as long as nothing is bent, anything that would wear out can be replaced.  Had the search open for something else and thought I'd give it a shot. That one certainly isn't pretty but you can always offer less.  I would think that unless you're just doing it for fun you don't want a manual machine.

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1 hour ago, yellowrosefarm said:

There is a home built one that is PTO powered for 5K in Vermont on the exchange.

I just tried contacting, had to fill a form out 

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I have a "kit" woodmizer in Southern Indiana I'd sell really reasonable to anyone with a welder and some skills. 

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VT

dont you have enough toys projects and jobs NOW?

 

We have some of the original flyers for WM.

have been watching for one since we lost $60K to a mill in '16

some discoveries...

price never has  matched the actual use/value.

they are not a production mill vs a circle mill (3-5x per hr)and you have to want a workout hobby with under $35 K mills

or develop a NEW market for the lumber $45K > mills

there are several class's and grades of mills ,so it is virtually impossible to do apples /apples comparison on brands or even models

(ROW) has better models and brands and (USA deathly options)

top 3 USA

NLA logmaster

timberking

WM

basically EVERYthing else is a weekender toy or know you will get bored(discussed) and throw away,

on the lumber market ,here it is ILLEGAL to use "home made" lumber for  any  "structure" that MAY have anything alive enter it.

most <25 hp ($2-5K )engines dont make it 2K hrs (check the clock)

on pricing basically - 25% $  the moment it leaves the lot and minimum - $4 % per year

 

a '2000 lt 40  @ < $25K - 25%    .. $18,7

- 21 yr @ 4%      should be - 0 $ less repairs  

but usually goes (off )market quick for $11-12K and needs $2-4K in service 

the MFG's and "dealers" have a DL system of price stabilizing (fixing) "appraisals" are >> high + - 80% of new.

they will NOT actually buy one for more than 30% (+ - $7K per  $20K)of what they can resell it for

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Mmi, as usual you post some good information but I have a hard time interpreting it. We seem to be separated by a common language.

Its not illegal to build houses, etc with sawmill wood here. I know many houses build with it.

We call rough cut lumber 'sawmill wood'  and planed, dried lumber 'lumber' round here.

Thx-Ace 

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2 hours ago, acem said:

Mmi, as usual you post some good information but I have a hard time interpreting it. We seem to be separated by a common language.

Its not illegal to build houses, etc with sawmill wood here. I know many houses build with it.

We call rough cut lumber 'sawmill wood'  and planed, dried lumber 'lumber' round here.

Thx-Ace 

I think he's referring to the UCC(Uniform Construction Code) thats in force in PA. It may say that. There also could be an exception the inspector is to lazy to read. I know of one owner built home with sawmill lumber since the UCC.

 

Did a little digging. In PA a building inspector by fiat is also a lumber grader(!!!!)  so if he signs off on it,it's legal. Good luck wit dat.

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On 11/6/2020 at 9:15 AM, yellowrosefarm said:

I can't imagine sawing by myself without the hydraulics, though I usually load the logs with forks on a piece of equipment

That right there is spot on! We debated on getting the hyd option as it was a fairly expensive option, but wouldn't be without it. We don't have a cant hook or any logging tools. Have no use for them. When one man can saw a 35" diameter log by himself and the only time you need to handle the wood is taking the slabs and boards off, I'd say it's worth it. I'm not lazy and am not afraid of hard work, but I know I would be played out after a 10-14 hour day of sawing with a push mill and no hydraulics. If your only sawing for an hour here and there, ok fine but if you plan on spending time sawing, go for the extras. It's worth it plus the resale value is so much better

This was about as big a log as this mill can cut, but it handled it fine. Was over 3' diamater. I thought I had a pic of it being cut but cant find it. We have had a few that we needed to cut some off the big end of the log with the chainsaw to make the first cut. Anyway these are the logs i like because 2 people cant keep up pulling boards off when I'm sawing lol. I think I was doing 3 2x8's at a time once I had it squared off. Now that's production lol

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I have to second and third having hydraulics if you work alone. Mt LT40 is basic with no hydraulics, but I have a 14 yr old who plays sports so I tell him we supplement his other work outs-LOL. If I used it more I would have to upgrade to hydraulics. We sawed 2 ash logs today into cants. One was twisted like a braid and was really neat when we opened it up. No comments about the green-I like both.

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1 minute ago, ejb17 said:

I have to second and third having hydraulics if you work alone. Mt LT40 is basic with no hydraulics, but I have a 14 yr old who plays sports so I tell him we supplement his other work outs-LOL. If I used it more I would have to upgrade to hydraulics. We sawed 2 ash logs today into cants. One was twisted like a braid and was really neat when we opened it up. No comments about the green-I like both.

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Those look cool. Have a customer with one of those JD, she likes it and it is super smooth 

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I looked hard at Woodland mills earlier this fall, but a friend with a Woodmizer said he would bring it over and saw my tornado damaged wood.  He built his house from wood he cut, but he had to pay to have a grader come and grade it to get it past the building inspector.

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6 minutes ago, Rawleigh99 said:

I looked hard at Woodland mills earlier this fall, but a friend with a Woodmizer said he would bring it over and saw my tornado damaged wood.  He built his house form wood he cut, but he had to pay to have a grader come and grade it to get it past the building inspector.

I am sure it was still a savings , I’ll check out woodland mills

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6 hours ago, vtfireman85 said:

I am sure it was still a savings , I’ll check out woodland mills

woodland is basically a weekender throw away.

you can get a throw away WM for same $$ and at least have dealer/ factory USA support

https://woodmizer.com/Store/Shop/Portable-Sawmills/LX25-Portable-Sawmill

https://woodmizer.com/Store/Shop/Portable-Sawmills/LX55-Portable-Sawmill

here is an $8K unit near you

scambay has a lot of theses sellers no details no photos "SALES FINAL"

been re/listed going near a year

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Woodmizer-LT40-Portable-Sawmill-Saw-Mill-20hp-Onan/264056872073?hash=item3d7b041c89:g:lAEAAOSwLYBfmw4r

 

this one ,out dated  +- $22K /less repairs /service 

  qboat has +- 1000 hr left in it

https://westernmass.craigslist.org/hvo/d/williamsburg-woodmizer-lt-40-super/7201685367.html

 

more details could be a $6-7K deal...?

https://nh.craigslist.org/grd/d/new-durham-woodmizer-lt30-sawmill/7204798097.html

$8-9K depending $$$$ thru dealer shop

https://oneonta.craigslist.org/tls/d/lewis-wood-mizer-lt-40-hydraulic/7227355981.html

looking for a day job..? no one else ,either has for nearly a year

https://pennstate.craigslist.org/hvo/d/montoursville-wood-mizer-70-sawmill/7218735334.html

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34 minutes ago, mmi said:

woodland is basically a weekender throw away.

you can get a throw away WM for same $$ and at least have dealer/ factory USA support

https://woodmizer.com/Store/Shop/Portable-Sawmills/LX25-Portable-Sawmill

https://woodmizer.com/Store/Shop/Portable-Sawmills/LX55-Portable-Sawmill

here is an $8K unit near you

scambay has a lot of theses sellers no details no photos "SALES FINAL"

been re/listed going near a year

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Woodmizer-LT40-Portable-Sawmill-Saw-Mill-20hp-Onan/264056872073?hash=item3d7b041c89:g:lAEAAOSwLYBfmw4r

 

this one ,out dated  +- $22K /less repairs /service 

  qboat has +- 1000 hr left in it

https://westernmass.craigslist.org/hvo/d/williamsburg-woodmizer-lt-40-super/7201685367.html

 

more details could be a $6-7K deal...?

https://nh.craigslist.org/grd/d/new-durham-woodmizer-lt30-sawmill/7204798097.html

$8-9K depending $$$$ thru dealer shop

https://oneonta.craigslist.org/tls/d/lewis-wood-mizer-lt-40-hydraulic/7227355981.html

looking for a day job..? no one else ,either has for nearly a year

https://pennstate.craigslist.org/hvo/d/montoursville-wood-mizer-70-sawmill/7218735334.html

Those are some nice mills, honestly, for what i want i dont need a hydraulic 

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you can get a very nice brand new WM manual for <$7K, <$5K vs the throw aways.

a good 90-00' model (28-40) with hyd is $2-5K more have to be fast and willing to travel with $$ in hand

missed 3 when we were not "allowed" to travel

almost bought a 15, until run it for a day

spending the $14K ($7 more) is well worth the self usability,

 

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12 minutes ago, mmi said:

you can get a very nice brand new WM manual for <$7K, <$5K vs the throw aways.

a good 90-00' model (28-40) with hyd is $2-5K more have to be fast and willing to travel with $$ in hand

missed 3 when we were not "allowed" to travel

almost bought a 15, until run it for a day

spending the $14K ($7 more) is well worth the self usability,

 

Im all for a WM, but I personally would rather have a brand new one that is more primitive than a used one for just a little more even though it is nicer, whole point for me is turn key and go. 

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On 11/6/2020 at 8:07 AM, 560Dennis said:

Meant to 

said 😝

the Ohio forestry association has the Paul Bunyan show in Cambridge, Ohio at guernsey county fairgrounds in October. (Cancel this year ) But
boy oh boy they get your blood a pumping ,got all the sawmills in action ,with factory reps right there demonstrating them . 
id recommend one one like it if you can , that way you can’t beat the experience 

The Woodsmen Days are closer to Seth. The “bonus” for him is that the show is held in Tupper Lake, NY!

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9 minutes ago, 1586 Jeff said:

The Woodsmen Days are closer to Seth. The “bonus” for him is that the show is held in Tupper Lake, NY!

We should go together, maybe we would run into your 4x5 purple haired beauty there! I would offer to run block... but I don’t think it’s required 😆

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