1468 converted to 466 worth anything?

[Reichow7120]

1 hour ago, Missouri Mule said:

Everyone always talks about 68 frame rails. I guess they're just hard to find? Why does one need them? I mean did they break them? What's the deal? I could see if you were going back to the v8 you need them. 

Because a 68 series frame rail set doesn't work on a inline engine. They are wider. If you're changing engines in these tractors and are doing this type of swap, there is a good reason why ( usually a blown up engine is the culprit) You're not going to say "Gosh, I'm going to change it back someday ". It's get it going or it's going down the road. You do this. Those frame rails are just sitting there taking up space.  Either they eventually go for scrap or get used in some farm welding and or fabricating project. We can't be the only farm to use old farm equipment frames and metal in general to weld and fabricate stuff.

[Missouri Mule]

10 hours ago, Reichow7120 said:

Because a 68 series frame rail set doesn't work on a inline engine. They are wider. If you're changing engines in these tractors and are doing this type of swap, there is a good reason why ( usually a blown up engine is the culprit) You're not going to say "Gosh, I'm going to change it back someday ". It's get it going or it's going down the road. You do this. Those frame rails are just sitting there taking up space.  Either they eventually go for scrap or get used in some farm welding and or fabricating project. We can't be the only farm to use old farm equipment frames and metal in general to weld and fabricate stuff.

I understand that, but most guys here not collecting dont want the v8 anyway I guess is my point 

[Reichow7120]

Just now, Missouri Mule said:

I understand that, but most guys here not collecting dont want the v8 anyway I guess is my point 

Because in areas that have money to throw away they are sought after. Only so many of them built so supply and demand at play and a number of them were converted so that lessens the supply more. Don't have the engine and rails, you don't have a 68.

[1snappyIH]

I was told that the "68" series V8 engines couldn't take the stress that the inline 6 did which is part of the reason they were different in addition to the fact that the V8s needed a little more room to fit snuggly in line with the tranny.   

I was also told that the farmers that had the V8s were surprised as to lack of torque compared to the inline 6s, and that plus the exceptionally high cost of rebuilding the V8s helped justify the swap.  Just hear say...  

[acem]

I know where a couple 550 v8 engines are if anyone needs one.Thx-Ace 

[IHKeith]

I have a D-550 in a S series truck up here in Ontario if anyone is looking this way 

[Jacka]

I know I never ran one,never had to deal with the motor that was in them but man to a kid in the 70's going to your IH dealer every chance you had with dad to get parts (which was little compared to JD,had to jab just me) to see the brochures with 14,1568 on front was just awesome and dreams started. 

[acem]

I don't remember any v8 2 wd tractors in my area of western arkansas but there were plenty in the big farming area of eastern arkansas.

My friend reinstalled a V8 back into a 1468 that had a 6 dropped in. He had the rails, etc sitting in the back of a shed from when he converted one to a dt436 30 years ago! Nobody wanted to fix the dv550 back then.

How many 1568s were built? I've only seen one.

Thx-Ace 

[DT Fan]

1 hour ago, acem said:

I don't remember any v8 2 wd tractors in my area of western arkansas but there were plenty in the big farming area of eastern arkansas.

My friend reinstalled a V8 back into a 1468 that had a 6 dropped in. He had the rails, etc sitting in the back of a shed from when he converted one to a dt436 30 years ago! Nobody wanted to fix the dv550 back then.

How many 1568s were built? I've only seen one.

Thx-Ace 

Tractor-data says; 2905 1468's, 862 1568's.

[Binderoid]

On 9/13/2020 at 6:21 PM, ole 815 said:

You should post the serial# so it can be recorded. Member FarmallTom on here is keeping track of them.

I turned in a couple S/Ns a few years ago, I was new to the forum and thought it was the thing to do. But today I don’t see the point of it. Unless the succeeding owner is on the forum, there is no way to update the lists as the owners die off and tractors are auctioned, barn fires, or heirs who scrap everything in sight for the fastest money gain. 
   In the case of this 1468, all the important parts are missing that make the tractor what it is.  The tractor was assembled from parts of other tractors, so... how can it be in the 1468 registry when the only thing that’s known to be original is the serial number tag? This should be considered a junkyard tractor with a 1468 center section. So register the tag? why? The original 1468 is essentially dead.  If this is done we should be going across America’s junkyards and chiseling the tags off the scrap tractors just before they are dropped in the furnace, and registering them. 

[Big Bud guy]

5 minutes ago, Art From Coleman said:

How many other manufacturers used their own V-8s in their tractors, other than IH (which would include the V-800 used in their 4WDs, I believe only JD, with the V-903, used in the 8850.

The only other V-8s used by Oliver, Case, Massey-Ferguson, Versas**t, Woods and Copeland were either Caterpillar or Perkins, or Scania (Case)

I once had an operators manual for a 1468, and the owner had written that it had major issues at 261 hours.

Big Bud and Rite used Detroit’s 

[Injpumped]

47 minutes ago, Art From Coleman said:

How many other manufacturers used their own V-8s in their tractors, other than IH (which would include the V-800 used in their 4WDs, I believe only JD, with the V-903, used in the 8850.

The only other V-8s used by Oliver, Case, Massey-Ferguson, Versas**t, Woods and Copeland were either Caterpillar or Perkins, or Scania (Case)

I once had an operators manual for a 1468, and the owner had written that it had major issues at 261 hours.

The Deere 8850 is a 955. Technically Massey Ferguson and Perkins were owned by the same company for a while, that is how they were able to claim as their own engines. BTW, did the V8 tractors have a slower ring & pinion due to the higher rpm of the DV550? So putting in a 6 cyl, leave you with a slower ground speed than a standard 1466 or even an already slow 1566?

[1566Hog]

Mikes Equipment salvage yard in Buhler, KS had a 1568 cab tractor sitting there for over a year fixed up as a 1566.  Good usable machine. It sold for $6000 I believe last year. I told the salesman I’d take it, but I was a few hours too late. It got sold right after the Red Power Roundup and maybe the show motivated someone????  Snooze, you loose. 

[Binderoid]

49 minutes ago, Injpumped said:

did the V8 tractors have a slower ring & pinion

If someone has a parts book for both tractors that might answer the question .

[ole 815]

5 hours ago, Binderoid said:

I turned in a couple S/Ns a few years ago, I was new to the forum and thought it was the thing to do. But today I don’t see the point of it. Unless the succeeding owner is on the forum, there is no way to update the lists as the owners die off and tractors are auctioned, barn fires, or heirs who scrap everything in sight for the fastest money gain. 
   In the case of this 1468, all the important parts are missing that make the tractor what it is.  The tractor was assembled from parts of other tractors, so... how can it be in the 1468 registry when the only thing that’s known to be original is the serial number tag? This should be considered a junkyard tractor with a 1468 center section. So register the tag? why? The original 1468 is essentially dead.  If this is done we should be going across America’s junkyards and chiseling the tags off the scrap tractors just before they are dropped in the furnace, and registering them. 

The whole registry thing jus helps if somebody was looking for  a tractor.  I guess it's a Red Power  Forum thing.

It would get recorded as you described it.

I looked for my Dad's 1206 for 14 years. Because of the internet, and serial # reporting it surfaced. It ended up 2 states away after not owning it for about 35 years. I now know it was a survivor. Keep in touch with owner of it today.

So that is why I brought it up.

Every 1206 I come across, I look and report serial #. Red Reaper is still looking for the one his Dad had.

Mark

[Binderoid]

4 hours ago, ole 815 said:

The whole registry thing jus helps if somebody was looking for  a tractor.  I guess it's a Red Power  Forum thing.

It would get recorded as you described it.

I looked for my Dad's 1206 for 14 years. Because of the internet, and serial # reporting it surfaced. It ended up 2 states away after not owning it for about 35 years. I now know it was a survivor. Keep in touch with owner of it today.

So that is why I brought it up.

Every 1206 I come across, I look and report serial #. Red Reaper is still looking for the one his Dad had.

Mark

Well that’s an angle I never thought of. I am better educated. In that light it really is useful. 

[IH OAK]

How did the 550s hold up in trucks? I saw a 4wd Loadstar on f-book a couple weeks ago with one in it.

[DWF]

On 11/25/2021 at 8:00 PM, IH OAK said:

How did the 550s hold up in trucks? I saw a 4wd Loadstar on f-book a couple weeks ago with one in it.

Never had one but know a guy that did have one. He didn't have it long, he did not like it.

DWF

[gonzo 1066]

One of our neighbors in Wisconsin bought a new 1466 and a 1468.    Soon after they turboed the 68 to try to make it pull as good as the 66 did.   After installing the turbo kit on the 68 the pan and block "windowed".    That seemed to be a common problem  with the V-8s.