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Bill Gates tongue tied about vaccine side effects

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Watch the interview with Norah O'Donnel.  Hope it stays up a while.  Someone who twitters might be able to download it.

Here's a little sample that I jotted down - as close to word for word as I could get:

N.O.   After the second dose at least 80% experienced a systemic side effect ranging from severe chills to fever so are these vaccines safe?

B.G.  (with much stuttering) The FDA will be looking hard at that - side effects were not super severe - some of that was not dramatic, just super painful 
 
 

https://www.infowars.com/bill-gates-confronted-about-widespread-vaccine-side-effects/

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Super painful, huh? But not dramatic? 

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Sounds like if he owns the patent on the virus and the vaccine that would be almost like a monopoly?  (I’ve heard that multiple places, did no fact checking)
 

Give him both and see what he thinks so he will be better prepared to answer the questions with first hand knowledge.  

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It sounds like more tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. The Gates foundation gets a new one every day from the no vax crowd:

https://www.snopes.com/collections/coronavirus-gates-foundation/

I'm going to call BS on the Gates interview. Here's the total interview. I would hope that people stop spreading these stupid conspiracy theories. It's a long interview but it's entirely understandable if played at 1.75 speed:

 

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Ain’t taking any vaccines made in China 

everybody laugh when I got sick from the flu shot last September, you hard something already , Agh ! 

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Last time I checked Mr Gates is not a doctor or any other type of medical professional and as far from a chemist as I am. Smart business man?  Absolutely !!!

So when it comes to comments regarding a “ Pandemic “  who gives a dam what he thinks ?

When I need information about Fertilizer  for my corn I’m not going to ask   Paris Hilton. 

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1 hour ago, New Englander said:

It sounds like more tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. The Gates foundation gets a new one every day from the no vax crowd:

https://www.snopes.com/collections/coronavirus-gates-foundation/

I'm going to call BS on the Gates interview. Here's the total interview. I would hope that people stop spreading these stupid conspiracy theories. It's a long interview but it's entirely understandable if played at 1.75 speed:

 

Did you not see and hear him squirm and babble when she asked about side effects?   She nailed him down (surprisingly) and he almost became incoherent.

It 's not a conspiracy theory when he comes right out and says what he said.

I'd suggest you sign up for the first shot of whatever brew his people come up with.  I'm going to sit that one out.

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17 minutes ago, Steve C. said:

Did you not see and hear him squirm and babble when she asked about side effects?   She nailed him down (surprisingly) and he almost became incoherent.

It 's not a conspiracy theory when he comes right out and says what he said.

I'd suggest you sign up for the first shot of whatever brew his people come up with.  I'm going to sit that one out.

Remember that it's a trial to establish what the necessary dose to establish immunity or at least resistance.

The section in question begins at about 15:57. Bill has just taken a swig of his coffee and is finishing swallowing it as he responds. I did not see him squirm and stammer but rather collect his thoughts on the fly. He also comments on the several others in TRIAL.

As for conspiracy theory, well, look at the far right website you quote. Alex Jones is no middle of the road guy. He's a far right commentator/entertainer. If that's where you want to get your news, fine, but take it with a large grain of salt just as you should take any commentary from CNN with a similar large grain of salt. They both have agendas at the far right and far left and truth be damned.

I WILL sign up for the first APPROVED safe vaccine. I would NEVER sign up for a trial at my age but were I 40 years younger I would step up and volunteer.

 

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Thanks for posting the full interview - I could only find clips last night, but not the segment that we're discussing now.

Re. Alex Jones, that's the only place I could find this segment, but whether it was him, Captain Kangaroo, or anyone else, the content of the clip is what's important to me.  I still maintain that he was dodging her questions.

Bottom line for me - if you had the authority to make me take the vaccine even if I refused, would you do it?  Because if you would, you and I have nothing else to talk about.

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20 minutes ago, New Englander said:

 

As for conspiracy theory, well, look at the far right website you quote. Alex Jones is no middle of the road guy. He's a far right commentator/entertainer. If that's where you want to get your news, fine, but take it with a large grain of salt just as you should take any commentary from CNN with a similar large grain of salt. They both have agendas at the far right and far left and truth be damned.

You reference snopes implying they're the ultimate source of fact and truth. "If that's where you want to get your news, fine", but better take it with the whole salt mine. They're well known by anyone with common sense as a far left advocacy site used by liberal socialists to "prove" their viewpoint. 

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6 minutes ago, The New Number One said:

You reference snopes implying they're the ultimate source of fact and truth. "If that's where you want to get your news, fine", but better take it with the whole salt mine. They're well known by anyone with common sense as a far left advocacy site used by liberal socialists to "prove" their viewpoint. 

Get your tinfoil hat on.

Everyone with common sense? They will actually quote their sources and will be the first to say if they can't prove it one way or the other.

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25 minutes ago, Steve C. said:

Bottom line for me - if you had the authority to make me take the vaccine even if I refused, would you do it?  Because if you would, you and I have nothing else to talk about.

What the heck are you talking about? Where did you get anything out of what I said that implies, even remotely, that I advocate that? Geeze!

 

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2 minutes ago, New Englander said:

What the heck are you talking about? Where did you get anything out of what I said that implies, even remotely, that I advocate that? Geeze!

I'm very glad to hear that.  Just needed to get it out of the way.  Some people are in favor of making it mandatory.

Thanks. 

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3 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

Sounds like if he owns the patent on the virus and the vaccine that would be almost like a monopoly?  (I’ve heard that multiple places, did no fact checking)

Holy crap man! Bill has so much money he's trying to give it all away before he dies and has pledged to do so. He really is trying to help people with that money. I wish he'd throw a couple of million my way but....

There are multiple vaccines in the works. Not all will be the best but to have so much competition to be the first safe and effective one is the way our capitalistic society works. That company will make the most money so the incentive to be the first with the best will help us all.

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17 minutes ago, New Englander said:

Holy crap man! Bill has so much money he's trying to give it all away before he dies and has pledged to do so. He really is trying to help people with that money. I wish he'd throw a couple of million my way but....

There are multiple vaccines in the works. Not all will be the best but to have so much competition to be the first safe and effective one is the way our capitalistic society works. That company will make the most money so the incentive to be the first with the best will help us all.

Vaccine would be a good thing, no doubt. I understand that is how our capitalistic society works. I also feel that the man should be held partially accountable for his virus and the monster it has become.  

After all, isn’t accountability what we, as a nation, seem to be lacking right now as a common theme in all the current events?  

If he did truly want to “give it all away” then he would be producing a viable vaccine when it gets fully developed and spraying it through a fire hose to whoever wants it, right?  If he was held accountable for his ownership of this virus I would think any amount of conscience would lead to some sort of help in the form of a vaccine.  I’m just not sure the words “conscience” and “capitalistic” are allowed in the same conversation though....

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9 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

I also feel that the man should be held partially accountable for his virus and the monster it has become.

Tell me you're not saying Bill Gates created this virus.

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2 minutes ago, New Englander said:

Tell me you're not saying Bill Gates created this virus.

Nah Fauci and Oboma did that.......Bill just bought the patent from em. 🙂

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6 minutes ago, New Englander said:

Tell me you're not saying Bill Gates created this virus.

No sir I am not. I do believe he owns the patent to it though. I’m not into conspiracy theories and tinfoil hats. I was not trying to blaze a new trail of blame or anything.  I only feel like he should not be allowed to benefit financially from a vaccine that fixes the virus he effectively owns. 

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13 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

No sir I am not. I do believe he owns the patent to it though. I’m not into conspiracy theories and tinfoil hats. I was not trying to blaze a new trail of blame or anything.  I only feel like he should not be allowed to benefit financially from a vaccine that fixes the virus he effectively owns. 

Bill gates does not "own" the patent on CORONA19! Another internet rumor circulating!  There is NO patent on it anywhere.

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7 minutes ago, New Englander said:

Bill gates does not "own" the patent on CORONA19! Another internet rumor circulating!  There is NO patent on it anywhere.

Fair enough then.  If that is the case then I stand corrected. 

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4 hours ago, lorenzo said:

Last time I checked Mr Gates is not a doctor or any other type of medical professional and as far from a chemist as I am. Smart business man?  Absolutely !!!

So when it comes to comments regarding a “ Pandemic “  who gives a dam what he thinks ?

When I need information about Fertilizer  for my corn I’m not going to ask   Paris Hilton. 

A fair point,   its the argument I make when i want the President to sit down and let the doctors talk at the briefings.   

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6 hours ago, New Englander said:

Bill gates does not "own" the patent on CORONA19! Another internet rumor circulating!  There is NO patent on it anywhere.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/chinese-patent-application-coronavirus-vaccine-published

I haven’t researched the accuracy of this article. Take it with a grain of “salt”

As far as a vaccine... isn’t coronavirus a virus? Similar to the flu being a virus, or the common cold being a virus? 
Then how come we don’t have vaccines for those? We have a flu shot, but it’s certainly not a vaccine. By the nature of viruses their always changing and evolving, so how exactly is a vaccine supposed to be the cure-all end-all?

 

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4 minutes ago, Ihfan4life said:

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/chinese-patent-application-coronavirus-vaccine-published

I haven’t researched the accuracy of this article. Take it with a grain of “salt”

The National Law Review is highly respected among their peers (not peeps).

Also from Intellectual Property Magazine is the following.

CNIPA publishes ‘first’ patent for Covid-19 vaccine

The Chinese National Intellectual Property Administration (CNIPA) has published what could potentially be the first patent application covering a vaccine for the Covid-19 virus.

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1 minute ago, RichardDSalyer said:

The National Law Review is highly respected among their peers (not peeps).

Also from Intellectual Property Magazine is the following.

CNIPA publishes ‘first’ patent for Covid-19 vaccine

The Chinese National Intellectual Property Administration (CNIPA) has published what could potentially be the first patent application covering a vaccine for the Covid-19 virus.

Coincidence? I think not.

But I suspect some of our liberal friends will poke the story full of holes.

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15 minutes ago, Ihfan4life said:

 

As far as a vaccine... isn’t coronavirus a virus? Similar to the flu being a virus, or the common cold being a virus? 
Then how come we don’t have vaccines for those? We have a flu shot, but it’s certainly not a vaccine. By the nature of viruses their always changing and evolving, so how exactly is a vaccine supposed to be the cure-all end-all?

 

This has long been my thought as well. But logic went out the window a long time ago with this whole deal. 

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