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ky966boy`s topic about light front end made me think.

Dunno what determines drawbar heights on tractors but sure there is a formula.

But wouldn`t dropping the bar help keep weight on front?

But maybe too low will lessen angle/weight on rears and decrease traction.

Rick?

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Mark… Where do you come up with these ideas? A lower drawbar might be OK on flat ground or even better on a hill! But how are you supposed to clear any kind of windrows of hay when the drawbar is close to the ground?

  Not to mention when you start to sink in the mud you will be dragging bottom and  hung up!

  For me the more ground clearance the better!

 Throw some weights on the front… And keep your wheel thread width as wide as possible on side slopes! 

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it certainly does, we have a 20" hitch height max at our pull, cheating is encouraged, you hook on at 16" you might as well go home, 20" and the front tires are dancing with 6 more blocks on 24" keep your foot on the clutch and hang to her. 

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8 minutes ago, Qc.Can.IH man said:

Mark… Where do you come up with these ideas? A lower drawbar might be OK on flat ground or even better on a hill! But how are you supposed to clear any kind of windrows of hay when the drawbar is close to the ground?

  Not to mention when you start to sink in the mud you will be dragging bottom and  hung up!

  For me the more ground clearance the better!

 Throw some weights on the front… And keep your wheel thread width as wide as possible on side slopes! 

But but but [see what hangin' with a tree violator does to you] hez pulling a batwing hog. The hog is draggin on the ground.

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11 minutes ago, vtfireman85 said:

it certainly does, we have a 20" hitch height max at our pull, cheating is encouraged, you hook on at 16" you might as well go home, 20" and the front tires are dancing with 6 more blocks on 24" keep your foot on the clutch and hang to her. 

SO, an inch or 2 lower would help, eh?

And iffin you're gonna get stuck at 24", you're gonna get stuck at 22".

Everyone always complaining at the cost of weights anyhow.

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9 hours ago, MTO said:

ky966boy`s topic about light front end made me think.

Dunno what determines drawbar heights on tractors but sure there is a formula.

But wouldn`t dropping the bar help keep weight on front?

But maybe too low will lessen angle/weight on rears and decrease traction.

Rick?

786 has 34 tires 1486 has 38 tires does that figure into equation? 

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3 hours ago, ky966boy said:

786 has 34 tires 1486 has 38 tires does that figure into equation? 

All else being equal taller tires moves the drawbar up which would encourage weight transfer to the rear axle.  One big factor in addition to drawbar height is drawbar length.  I always keep my draw bars set as short as practical for hitch heavy implements. 

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On 7/12/2020 at 10:24 PM, MTO said:

But but but [see what hangin' with a tree violator does to you] hez pulling a batwing hog. The hog is draggin on the ground.

Just be happy that I didn’t tell him to go and check to see what MTO “wants to know this time“...yet!! 

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On 7/13/2020 at 10:34 PM, Qc.Can.IH man said:

Just be happy that I didn’t tell him to go and check to see what MTO “wants to know this time“...yet!! 

Don`t worry Dale.

He`s lurking in the shadows... trust me. 

If you listen hard, you`ll hear him licking syrup out of his beard..... slUrp!

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