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Did Lombard have any viable competition back when they were building the steam log haulers?  It seems like once the internal combustion engine came into common use, then everyone was copying their half-track truck design.  

 

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12 minutes ago, Dasnake said:

There was a thread here a while ago, had a few of these shots...........

 

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The last pic in the pile looks like a Pacific. Wonder if it is. IH had their hand in that company for a while.

Mike

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52 minutes ago, mike newman said:

AMF   Mike...you are well informed.....  The   Bush Tramway Club    is located  in the Waikato area, North Island.....they have some track on the ground...and have four   ''tram way ''    engines in working order...including    the 1650....

Mike

Have you made it up there to check it out?

Mike

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1 hour ago, Absent Minded Farmer said:

Have you made it up there to check it out?

Mike

No, Mike.......I have relatives   up in the  top of the North Island....we were due to drive up there about the time this covid BS    arrived......which put the skids under so many plans ...for so many folk...Means a ferry crossing etc ...no big deal, but the show has been shut down  at various times ...as it is right now.....

The short answer is   "no"  !!

Mike

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46 minutes ago, mike newman said:

No, Mike.......I have relatives   up in the  top of the North Island....we were due to drive up there about the time this covid BS    arrived......which put the skids under so many plans ...for so many folk...Means a ferry crossing etc ...no big deal, but the show has been shut down  at various times ...as it is right now.....

The short answer is   "no"  !!

Mike

Is there a ferry from NZ to Australia?

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9 hours ago, mike newman said:

Yeah... OK   jeeper...perhaps it as well  to ignore that jolly "Antipodean  ""     humour........:)

Sorry Mike I couldn't control myself 

There was a rail line put in a remote area of the Maine north woods to haul out to a river before the Great Depression.

Everything was brought in on the winter roads no idea how they got the locomotives there.

It only operated for a few years the remnants are still there.

I will have to look for the photos  

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10 hours ago, Rawleigh99 said:

The Shay's were similar to the Climax but had two vertical cylinders on each side.

Most Shays were 3 vertical cylinders, only the very smallest were 2. 

There was a third design known as the Heisler which had 2 vertical cylinders, one on each side angled in toward a drive shaft running under the center of the loco.

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4 hours ago, Howard_P said:

Most Shays were 3 vertical cylinders, only the very smallest were 2. 

There was a third design known as the Heisler which had 2 vertical cylinders, one on each side angled in toward a drive shaft running under the center of the loco.

Couple of "'Heisler''  engines...the  first photo taken in  1922..in Taupo..middle of the North Island......one of four   working for the "'Taupo Totara Timber Co  ""

Second picture from the West Coast ..(The ""Wet" Coast...)..of the South Island...Engine built  in 1924....Photo  taken in  1954......The tram line closed in 1958....   There you go, Howard....:)

Mike

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The Cass Scenic Railroad in West Virginia:  Even shows an International "C".

And a few short shots of a Heisler in operation: (Don't know why the stupid 'music' was necessary, or the reason why the picture of him coming out of the sh***er was necessary, or why ALL the other extraneous BS was included, especially when the title calls it a RARE Heisler locomotive.

 

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As an added bonus:

Trips to Cass Scenic Railroad State Park are filled with rich history, unparalleled views and the sights and sounds of an original lumbering town.
 
 
 
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1 hour ago, Art From Coleman said:

The Cass Scenic Railroad in West Virginia:

Been to Cass several times over the years and rode the train to top. It's a great ride and they will take you on a machine shop tour 1/2 hour before train leaves if you want to. Quite interesting as they have a wheel lathe in shop, not to mention rebuild their engines in-house. They had one Shay in that boiler was marked out in grids. A check mark in grids that passed test, X in other grids that failed. 

There's a big farm close to Cass I've been to on service calls several times over the years. Could hear the train whistle from where we was in field. 

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...a six  ''horse power'' team...photographed  in 1904.....North Island. The chaos  of land clearing for farming is very evident , in this photo....Sawmillers took the large trees...the new farmers had to fell and burn / clean up up the subsequent mess

,,,a little New  Zealand  built 'lokey''...again   North Island, photo  cica 1901

Mike

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photo of the  ""Bosses  jigger''......a 1926 convertible Chevrolet..on a bush tram line in the late twenties...

,,t'other is   'raising incline ''  around Lake Brunner, South Island  A hauler is positioned at the ridge top, and the logs are hauled up ,one at a time.....photo takn in the late thirties..

Mike

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On 10/15/2021 at 6:11 PM, Dasnake said:

Is there a ferry from NZ to Australia?

Yes.....but not something  that is scheduled specifically    ....I understand you can  roll your Aussie ute onto a ferry...and head over to NZ..(1200   miles )..but again, as I understand...nothing like the three and a half hour trip..on the ''roll  on/roll  off '' ferries between  North and South Islands,  where  rail freight goes straight in...shunted in  at either port...then   dragged out at t'other  end....same with class 8 trucks and trailers...roll in with everything from live stock to  bum  fodder ...for either Island...plus cars etc travelling between  Islands...and regular 'foot traffic''   passengers..

I used to pull "frozen "' up to Auckland every second week...for several months.....

Mike

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On 10/16/2021 at 1:52 AM, Rawleigh99 said:

The Shay's were similar to the Climax but had two vertical cylinders on each side.

According to the railway encyclopaedia left over from our boys the Shays had the boiler offset and the cylinders and drive train down the other side

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41 minutes ago, mike newman said:

Yes.....but not something  that is scheduled specifically    ....I understand you can  roll your Aussie ute onto a ferry...and head over to NZ..(1200   miles )..but again, as I understand...nothing like the three and a half hour trip..on the ''roll  on/roll  off '' ferries between  North and South Islands,  where  rail freight goes straight in...shunted in  at either port...then   dragged out at t'other  end....same with class 8 trucks and trailers...roll in with everything from live stock to  bum  fodder ...for either Island...plus cars etc travelling between  Islands...and regular 'foot traffic''   passengers..

I used to pull "frozen "' up to Auckland every second week...for several months.....

Mike

1200 miles is quite a trip, 2 days ballpark?

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I have to jump in on this subject in regard to lumber and railroad barons. From this part of the globe, J.R. Booth was known as one of the two largest lumber barons in North America in the 1800's- the other was Frederick Weyerhauser of NW US fame.  The link to the article says that in 1892 Booth had the largest lumber complex in the world.  Eastern Canadian White Pine was the species of timber most prevalent.  He died in 1925, age 98.

Take a look:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rudolphus_Booth

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.......picture of the 19 man bush crew heading out first thing in the morning.....1908   photo...and a great assortment of hats  !!!

....''parbuckling''  logs onto the 'wagon'   system using snatch block  and ropes etc ...with a small winch, which is not visible....1940  photo

...and 'hand loading '' off the skids onto the wagon....hard work...even with those long cant hooks...photo  1910

Mike

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In the early days of pulp wood harvesting in Maine the problem was getting the pulp wood  from the north-flowing Allagash River watershed into the east-flowing  Penobscot River watershed headed to the Great Northern Paper Company paper mill in Millinocket.

They accomplished 3 ways over the years before the Golden Road was built,

All the material for these projects had to be brought in on the winter roads by horse drawn sleds Lombard haulers and during the summer by side wheel steam boats    

The Eagle Lake Tramway - 1902 - 1909

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Remnants of the tram and Steam Power Plant 

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Steam Lombards replaced the Tramway 1910

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Eagle Lake Railroad replaced the Lombards 1926-1933

Cars being loaded from the float on Eagle Lake 

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Cars unloading on Umbazooksus Lake 

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Remnants of the locomotives 

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Some links to the history 

https://mooseheadhistory.org/2018/11/13/odyssey-of-the-eagle-lake-tramway/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Lake_Tramway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Lake_and_West_Branch_Railroad

http://www.netrails.com/tramway/

https://www.maine.gov/dacf/parks/discover_history_explore_nature/history/allagash/index.shtml

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