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Mike Newman sent me this and with his permission I have posted it for all of you to enjoy. 

There is hope, Thanks MikeūüėÄ

 

Oxford University Rebukes Black Activists.

 

SAYS IT ALL!!

The letter (below) is a response from Oxford University to black students attending as  Rhodes Scholars who demand the university removes the statue of Oxford Benefactor, Cecil Rhodes.


Interestingly, Chris Patten (Lord Patten of Barnes), The Chancellor of Oxford University, was on the Today Programme on BBC Radio 4 on precisely the same topic. The Daily Telegraph headline yesterday was "Oxford will not rewrite history".


Lord Patten commented: “Education is not indoctrination. Our history is not 

a blank page on which we can write our own version of what it should¬† have been according to our contemporary views and prejudice.‚Ä̬†




"Dear Scrotty Students,


Cecil Rhodes's generous bequest has contributed greatly to the comfort 

and well being of many generations of Oxford students - a good many of 

them, dare we say it, better, brighter and more deserving than you.


This does not necessarily mean we approve of everything Rhodes did in 

his lifetime - but then we don't have to. Cecil Rhodes died over a 

century ago. Autres temps, autres moeurs. If you don't understand what 

this means - and it would not remotely surprise us if that were the 

case - then we really think you should ask yourself the question: "Why 

am I at Oxford?"


Oxford, let us remind you, is the world's second oldest extant 

university. Scholars have been studying here since at least the 11th 

century. We've played a major part in the invention of Western 

civilisation, from the 12th century intellectual renaissance through 

the Enlightenment and beyond. Our alumni include William of Ockham, 

Roger Bacon, William Tyndale, John Donne, Sir Walter Raleigh, Erasmus, 

Sir Christopher Wren, William Penn, Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), Samuel 

Johnson, Robert Hooke, William Morris, Oscar Wilde, Emily Davison, 

Cardinal Newman, Julie Cocks. We're a big deal. And most of the people 

privileged to come and study here are conscious of what a big deal we 

are. Oxford is their alma mater - their dear mother - and they respect 

and revere her accordingly.


And what were your ancestors doing in that period? Living in mud huts, 

mainly. Sure we'll concede you the short lived Southern African 

civilisation of Great Zimbabwe. But let's be brutally honest here. The 

contribution of the Bantu tribes to modern civilisation has been as 

near as damn it to zilch.


You'll probably say that's "racist". But it's what we here at Oxford 

prefer to call "true." Perhaps the rules are different at other 

universities. In fact, we know things are different at other 

universities. We've watched with horror at what has been happening 

across the pond from the University of Missouri to the University of 

Virginia and even to revered institutions like Harvard and Yale: the 

"safe spaces"; the? #?blacklivesmatter; the creeping cultural 

relativism; the stifling political correctness; what Allan Bloom 

rightly called "the closing of the American mind". At Oxford however, 

we will always prefer facts and free, open debate to petty 

grievance-mongering, identity politics and empty sloganeering. The day 

we cease to do so is the day we lose the right to call ourselves the 

world's greatest university.


Of course, you are perfectly within your rights to squander your time 

at Oxford on silly, vexatious, single-issue political campaigns. 

(Though it does make us wonder how stringent the vetting procedure is 

these days for Rhodes scholarships and even more so, for Mandela 

Rhodes scholarships) We are well used to seeing undergraduates - or, 

in your case - postgraduates, making idiots of themselves. Just don't 

expect us to indulge your idiocy, let alone genuflect before it. You 

may be black - "BME" as the grisly modern terminology has it - but we 

are colour blind. We have been educating gifted undergraduates from 

our former colonies, our Empire, our Commonwealth and beyond for many 

generations. We do not discriminate over sex, race, colour or creed. 

We do, however, discriminate according to intellect.


That means, inter alia, that when our undergrads or postgrads come up 

with fatuous ideas, we don't pat them on the back, give them a red 

rosette and say: "Ooh, you're black and you come from South Africa. 

What a clever chap you are!"  No. We prefer to see the quality of 

those ideas tested in the crucible of public debate. That's another 

key part of the Oxford intellectual tradition you see: you can argue 

any damn thing you like but you need to be able to justify it with 

facts and logic - otherwise your idea is worthless.


This ludicrous notion you have that a bronze statue of Cecil Rhodes 

should be removed from Oriel College, because it's symbolic of 

"institutional racism" and "white slavery". Well even if it is - which 

we dispute - so bloody what? Any undergraduate so feeble-minded that 

they can't pass a bronze statue without having their "safe space" 

violated really does not deserve to be here. And besides, if we were 

to remove Rhodes's statue on the premise that his life wasn't 

blemish-free, where would we stop? As one of our alumni Dan Hannan has 

pointed out, Oriel's other benefactors include two kings so awful - 

Edward II and Charles I - that their subjects had them killed. The 

college opposite - Christ Church - was built by a murderous, thieving 

bully who bumped off two of his wives. Thomas Jefferson kept slaves: 

does that invalidate the US Constitution? Winston Churchill had 

unenlightened views about Muslims and India: was he then the wrong man 

to lead Britain in the war?"


Actually, we'll go further than that. Your Rhodes Must Fall campaign 

is not merely fatuous but ugly, vandalistic and dangerous. We agree 

with Oxford historian RW Johnson that what you are trying to do here 

is no different from what ISIS and the Al-Qaeda have been doing to 

artefacts in places like Mali and Syria. You are murdering history.


And who are you, anyway, to be lecturing Oxford University on how it 

should order its affairs? Your ?#?rhodesmustfall campaign, we 

understand, originates in South Africa and was initiated by a black 

activist who told one of his lecturers "whites have to be killed". One 

of you is the privileged son of a rich 

politician and a member of a party whose slogan is "Kill the Boer; 

Kill the Farmer"; another of you, who is only in Oxford 

as a beneficiary of a Rhodes scholarship, has boasted about the need 

for "socially conscious black students" to "dominate white 

universities, and do so ruthlessly and decisively!


Great. That's just what Oxford University needs. Some cultural 

enrichment from the land of Winnie Mandela, burning tyre necklaces, an 

AIDS epidemic almost entirely the result of government indifference 

and ignorance, one of the world's highest per capita murder rates, 

institutionalised corruption, tribal politics, anti-white racism and a 

collapsing economy. Please name which of the above items you think 

will enhance the lives of the 22,000 students studying here at Oxford.


And then please explain what it is that makes your attention grabbing 

campaign to remove a listed statue from an Oxford college more urgent, 

more deserving than the desire of probably at least 20,000 of those 

22,000 students to enjoy their time here unencumbered by the 

irritation of spoilt, ungrateful little tossers on scholarships they 

clearly don't merit using racial politics and cheap guilt-tripping to 

ruin the life and fabric of our beloved university.


Understand us and understand this clearly: you have everything to 

learn from us; we have nothing to learn from you.


Yours, Oriel College, 

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We need more folks in this country that can think and make a point this well..... o wait, we do but they probably dont want to get drug thru the mudd by our deranged media.....

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That was actually James Delingpole

"Here is the letter that Oriel College should have written to the campaigners from Rhodes Must Fall."

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/12/24/mud-huts-v-western-civilization-rhodesmustfall-must-fail/

"Instead of standing up to these hoity-toity grievance mongers ‚Äď led by two black South African students on scholarships ‚Äď ¬†Oriel has caved."

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...gheez...that's  not what we wanted to read...…..you mean  the college  acquiesced   to the black students demands....????

…..more insanity.....

Mike

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Those who forget history are bought to repeat it. Thx-Ace 

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29 minutes ago, acem said:

Those who forget history are bought to repeat it. Thx-Ace 

It has been pointed out that a lot of Africa seems ripe for another bout of colonialism and that China is at the head of the queue.

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9 minutes ago, Ian Beale said:

It has been pointed out that a lot of Africa seems ripe for another bout of colonialism and that China is at the head of the queue.

They'll be begging for White Colonials inside five years.

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1 hour ago, acem said:

Those who forget history are bought to repeat it. Thx-Ace 

or never learned it, as is the case with the troubled young souls of today.

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6 hours ago, Ian Beale said:

That was actually James Delingpole

"Here is the letter that Oriel College should have written to the campaigners from Rhodes Must Fall."

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/12/24/mud-huts-v-western-civilization-rhodesmustfall-must-fail/

"Instead of standing up to these hoity-toity grievance mongers ‚Äď led by two black South African students on scholarships ‚Äď ¬†Oriel has caved."

Apologize for being a little slow. And having trouble navigating link on my phone.

This was not the actual response but how someone thought the university should have handled it?

If so, I am saddened that I got my hopes up thinking someone of authority finally stood up to these over priviledged cry babies.

 

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22 minutes ago, sandhiller said:

Apologize for being a little slow. And having trouble navigating link on my phone.

This was not the actual response but how someone thought the university should have handled it?

If so, I am saddened that I got my hopes up thinking someone of authority finally stood up to these over priviledged cry babies.

 

….ditto...….  tried to 'google it  but could not get the answer I was looking for.....

Mike

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Well the fat lady can stay sitting and not worry about singing for awhile cuz this crap ain't over, y'all want a laff, google john wayne airport, Bwahahahahahahahaha doesn't do it justice.

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4 minutes ago, Dasnake said:

Well the fat lady can stay sitting and not worry about singing for awhile cuz this crap ain't over, y'all want a laff, google john wayne airport, Bwahahahahahahahaha doesn't do it justice.

yeah, Jake...that was on our printed news last night...……..no surprise to see   the bunch of offended 'humans '   pushing for this change in name......was led by a Democrat of some  perceived    importance...…. Just beggars belief.....the relevant  'comments......the offensive comments the Duke made were ...I understand.....made in 1971...…..so some wanks have stewed over those comments for nigh on 50 years...….LOL

Mike

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16 minutes ago, mike newman said:

yeah, Jake...that was on our printed news last night...……..no surprise to see   the bunch of offended 'humans '   pushing for this change in name......was led by a Democrat of some  perceived    importance...…. Just beggars belief.....the relevant  'comments......the offensive comments the Duke made were ...I understand.....made in 1971...…..so some wanks have stewed over those comments for nigh on 50 years...….LOL

Mike

Hey mike, my only saving grace is I'm "elderly" and won't have to listen to this crap for a whole lot longer.ūüėá

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23 minutes ago, Dasnake said:

Hey mike, my only saving grace is I'm "elderly" and won't have to listen to this crap for a whole lot longer.ūüėá

That likely means that when the tide turns you won't be around to help erase their newly installed  "statues in honour of wokeness"

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19 minutes ago, Dasnake said:

Hey mike, my only saving grace is I'm "elderly" and won't have to listen to this crap for a whole lot longer.ūüėá

I hear you    Jake   !!   Sort of in the same boat !!!

I have a friend in Utah...a really good friend about our age now.....Both he and his wife have visited us down under...(Had a picture of him on cattle thread , skinning a yote dog....;;)

I spent , over the years,,,,,not enough time with them in Kanab.....but over the years got to really like his Father..ex WW2 man...never had seen the ocean so he was immediately drafted into the US Navy......had some great stories and as he was a logger in post WW2   years ...and played the guitar really well...he was great to be around....He passed a few short years ago...into his nineties....but upon asking ….""How ya doin ' Ross "?...his stock repl;y was...""The only thing I got goin' for me is my age ".....this in that distinctive    Utah drawl...….

To me...that says it all...…..and the excrement in the fan of life then, was  way less than todays efforts by the unruly brainless  junk food eating mutants......:mellow:

Mike

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1 hour ago, mike newman said:

To me...that says it all...…..and the excrement in the fan of life then, was  way less than todays efforts by the unruly brainless  junk food eating mutants......

Now Mike, after that warm-up tell us what you really think!!!!

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4 hours ago, sandhiller said:

This was not the actual response but how someone thought the university should have handled it?

Yes.  And the University College went to water.

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2 minutes ago, Ian Beale said:

Now Mike, after that warm-up tell us what you really think!!!!

Ian...….I suspect you know exactly what I think  :).......I just cannot believe the crap that is going around the globe these days......

Mike

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3 minutes ago, mike newman said:

Ian...….I suspect you know exactly what I think  :).......I just cannot believe the crap that is going around the globe these days......

Mike

Mike

I reckon I do - and you can read similar back

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3 hours ago, Ian Beale said:

Yes.  And the University College went to water.

I assume that means Oxford gave in to their demands.

This is highly disturbing to me. And another disappointment, waiting for someone to take a stand against these ungratefuls.

I thought just maybe someone finally had. I will wait, hope it's not too much longer.

 

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8 hours ago, sandhiller said:

I assume that means Oxford gave in to their demands.

This is highly disturbing to me. And another disappointment, waiting for someone to take a stand against these ungratefuls.

I thought just maybe someone finally had. I will wait, hope it's not too much longer.

 

A bit more on that

https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/06/30/statue-games/

Somewhat like The Guardian newspaper front running on erasing organisations with any connection to slavery when it was money from slavery that founded it

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Don't pack a mask, pack a gun. Herd immunity, herd control. I pity the dummy comes into my place with bad intentions. Of any color. I am an equal opportunity miscreant hater.

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2 minutes ago, cobfly said:

Don't pack a mask, pack a gun. Herd immunity, herd control. I pity the dummy comes into my place with bad intentions. Of any color. I am an equal opportunity miscreant hater.

That is it in a nutshell, and people don‚Äôt seem to understand the phrase ‚Äúdon‚Äôt duck with me‚ÄĚ.¬†

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I believe in right and wrong, not much grey area there. Youth and athleticism, are no match for old age and treachery. Beware miscreants!

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The left wants to destroy the four olds, (old culture, old ideas, old customs and old habits) like Mao did in the cultural revolution to create their leftist utopia (where the most people will suffer)

 

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