lorenzo Posted November 29, 2020 Author Posted November 29, 2020 They also had a sub that carried an airplane . It was kept in a compartment on top and was a one time use bomber . 2 Quote
sandhiller Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, lorenzo said: They also had a sub that carried an airplane . It was kept in a compartment on top and was a one time use bomber . I started a separate thread on this sub They stored 3. When they came back, they landed in the water and were brought aboard with a crane. Quote
Finney Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, sandhiller said: Ain't no way!!!!! 1 1 1 Quote
Dasnake Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Finney said: Ain't no way!!!!! Yes way, just one foot in front of the other, easy peasy.?? 1 Quote
mike newman Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, sandhiller said: ...brave Men........."ALM.".....men.....(All Lives Matter...) Blokes who just get on with the job.....no fuss ...no bother....not in the game for great rewards.....and when the great Socialist bureaucratic trampling machine finally suffocates these blokes with paper work, society will be the poorer because of it..... Another great picture, Jeff Mike 2 1 Quote
sandhiller Posted December 4, 2020 Posted December 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, lorenzo said: LOL, nice call, thought the same thing when I saw it? Quote
mike newman Posted December 4, 2020 Posted December 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, Art From Coleman said: The crew of the C-130 water bomber who lost their lives in Australia, seem to have been 'pushed' into flying that day, despite the high winds in the drop zone which led to the crash. ...That is so sad,Art......I would have hoped that the "captain '..the crew boss , of that aircraft would have made the call to fly.....not some desk bound 'hero' New Zealand always sends fire fighting crews over to the US , in times of those fire outbreaks.....and to our Neighbour's , Australia....... A thankless bloody job for all involved... Mike 3 Quote
Pukeko Posted December 5, 2020 Posted December 5, 2020 On 12/4/2020 at 12:53 PM, Art From Coleman said: The crew of the C-130 water bomber who lost their lives in Australia, seem to have been 'pushed' into flying that day, despite the high winds in the drop zone which led to the crash. I watched the video of the crash,and,whilst hard to see all of it ,to me it looked liked he got into heavy smoke after the drop,gained a little height ,left wing low,that changed a bit ,right wing low,then some altitude loss,left wing low again at lower altitude.Apparently there was evidence that wing tip touched ground prior to impact.If he was at 200 feet or lower,remember the C130 has a 132 foot wing span,so not much room for error.He would have dropped the retardant at 145-150 knots (about 250 odd feet per second) and if they were not expecting IMC conditions,the natural tendency is a left or right bank downward,so at that low altitude and speed ,you dont have a whole lot going for you. Also the terrain could have been higher at that point than at the initial point of entry for his drop. That phenomena is called (controlled flight into terrain) when visibility to the ground is obscured The FAA gives "life expectancy" in inadvertant IMC conditions of 90 seconds !! The wind at the time was out of the West at 15-16 kts,with gusts .However further to the East , 59 km away ,other aircrews had rejected further action on another fire due to high winds ,This maybe what Art was refering to re "pushed " into flying,which does not seem to be the case in this instanc e.The PIC ( ex military) had about 4000 odd hours with 3000 odd on type .This is not a huge amount in the civilian world ,but he was very well versed and trained in the C130 aircraft,so that makes it even tougher to accept,these guys doing a tough job and dying. For my two cents,I would venture that disorientation in the smoke ,could well have been a contributing factor . People may wonder if I am qualified to opine on this matter,but I have done quite a lot of water bombing in nearly 4 decades of flying,and have seen a lot of bad things happen,and lost friends and colleagues on this type of work,as it is, and can, be quite risky. I think of all professional pilots as "kindred spirits" and it pains us all when one is lost doing their job. Again ,on this particular topic,this is entirely my opinion ,be it right or wrong. 6 Quote
Dasnake Posted December 5, 2020 Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, sandhiller said: Picture aside, the 45 sure is a masterfull achievement. 2 Quote
sandhiller Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 Fire And Fury: B-25s Are Pictured Flying Past Mount Vesuvius In Italy As Lava And Ash Spews From The Top Of The Volcano. The Eruption Killed 57 As It Destroyed The Village Of San Sebastiano And San Giorg In March 1944 While Allied Forces Were Battling For Supremacy In The Skies" 4 Quote
Dasnake Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, sandhiller said: Fire And Fury: B-25s Are Pictured Flying Past Mount Vesuvius In Italy As Lava And Ash Spews From The Top Of The Volcano. The Eruption Killed 57 As It Destroyed The Village Of San Sebastiano And San Giorg In March 1944 While Allied Forces Were Battling For Supremacy In The Skies" My old man told me when they started the italian campaign etna spewed her guts when they were in sicily, said it was something to see. 1 1 Quote
jeeper61 Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Annual Black Friday burn of the pile at the back of the pasture about midnight 2 Quote
gearheadmb Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 I took this a couple months ago while working on my barn 6 1 Quote
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