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Just now, Old F-14 said:

Now, thats an F-14 I could actually love . LOL

Lol it was parked cause the tires were shot in the 80’s hasn’t left it’s spot in the shed since.  I was thinking I’ll fix her up etc, then priced new 9:00-40 tires.  Holy what the!!!!!!   It can go to someone who values it more before I spend3 grand on rubber !!  On a tractor that has no use!

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1 minute ago, Bdse25 said:

Lol it was parked cause the tires were shot in the 80’s hasn’t left it’s spot in the shed since.  I was thinking I’ll fix her up etc, then priced new 9:00-40 tires.  Holy what the!!!!!!   It can go to someone who values it more before I spend3 grand on rubber !!  On a tractor that has no use!

IF you are serious about possibly parting with it, thats one F-14 I could actually wrap my head around and love.

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1 minute ago, Old F-14 said:

IF you are serious about possibly parting with it, thats one F-14 I could actually wrap my head around and love.

I’d definitely consider it but eastern Pennsylvania is quite a drive from where your at!

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3 minutes ago, Bdse25 said:

I’d definitely consider it but eastern Pennsylvania is quite a drive from where your at!

I know people.

Also....finding stuff here is getting stupid.  Electric one would be worth hauling.

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37 minutes ago, Old F-14 said:

 

I am located in Central Michigan, but I do end up going to see a Lyme Specialist Doctor every 3 months in Duluth, so if I dragged a trailer along that opens WI, MN, etc to options.

 

Like I mentioned in the beginning of my original post my search has been looking for a pre-war standard tread. I''ll be real specific: ie, a 10-20, 15-30, 22-36, W-30, with preference to a W-30. Repeat, W-30.

 

In the spring time Duluth is 4 or so hours from us straight on hwy 2.

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In addition to what has been said, one thing that annoys me is when I see someone in their 70s or older in a mobility cart, packing an oxygen bottle, and obviously close to the end of the line out bidding young guys wanting to get into the hobby just so he could add another tractor to the 50 he already has.  Sorry if that offends anyone. 

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5 minutes ago, dale560 said:

In the spring time Duluth is 4 or so hours from us straight on hwy 2.

You have a heavy foot.  It’s 250 miles to grand forks from duluth.  If I remember right you are another 1.5 to 2 hours west of GF.

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My local club focused mainly on pre '59 tractors, only wanted to do pulling. Wouldnt even recognize my collection. Had no intrest in expanding show to include parts swap and vendors. I lost intrest fast. TX IHCC wasnt too welcoming to me, youngest there, dont care about Hs and Ms 460s and 560s and seems they didnt take me serious on what I had. I quit all the clubs I was in and dont regret it. Im in my mid 30s and most people i meet 1st time try to take advantage of me for my age thinking I dont know IHs and have no clue what its worth. Most that come by to look at a tractor or parts always ask where my dad or granddad got all these IHs......

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9 minutes ago, Mudfly said:

You have a heavy foot.  It’s 250 miles to grand forks from duluth.  If I remember right you are another 1.5 to 2 hours west of GF.

I thought Duluth was only a couple hours East of GF. Make it 7 hours then.

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9 minutes ago, Long Farms said:

My local club focused mainly on pre '59 tractors, only wanted to do pulling. Wouldnt even recognize my collection. Had no intrest in expanding show to include parts swap and vendors. I lost intrest fast. TX IHCC wasnt too welcoming to me, youngest there, dont care about Hs and Ms 460s and 560s and seems they didnt take me serious on what I had. I quit all the clubs I was in and dont regret it. Im in my mid 30s and most people i meet 1st time try to take advantage of me for my age thinking I dont know IHs and have no clue what its worth. Most that come by to look at a tractor or parts always ask where my dad or granddad got all these IHs......

Ok I thought you were like 60 and retired just from all your posts over the years hahaha. Good to know I’ll have classy 1456 pictures to look forward to for many years to come!

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53 minutes ago, Old F-14 said:

Near Big Rapids, Mi. Though I'd be happy finding a W-30 within the state....or adjoining state for that matter.  Have pickup and trailer.

I know where that is!, not sure I know who you are though, can you add your location to your info?

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49 minutes ago, Bdse25 said:

I think older individuals who grew up around that stuff have an attachment, but to me stuff from that age is just iron. I grew up Looking at MX magnums on the dealer lot so in 60 years I might collect those😂

I'm right there with you. I really have no interest in owning tractors made before 1960. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate them and their historical and technological significance but I really don't have any interest in going out and buying one. I have another color tractor that was my grandfather's that is getting a slow restoration and maybe someday I'll buy one to pull. I grew up with a hydro 186 and someday would like to own one of those.

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1 hour ago, Old F-14 said:

Near Big Rapids, Mi. Though I'd be happy finding a W-30 within the state....or adjoining state for that matter.  Have pickup and trailer.

Possible lead.

I haven't been there in several years and can't remember a name.  There's a guy SE of Ada at the intersection of Grand River Drive SE and Bolt Dr. SE (Lat./Long 42.931844, -85.453087).  You can't miss it as it's also a large sand pit.  When I've been there he had several pre-war units.  I'm not well versed in these but know there were F-series and at least one W-series, although that one could have been a 6 or a 9.

Next time you're in GR you might want to have a look.

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9 minutes ago, TractormanMike.mb said:

I'm right there with you. I really have no interest in owning tractors made before 1960. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate them and their historical and technological significance but I really don't have any interest in going out and buying one. I have another color tractor that was my grandfather's that is getting a slow restoration and maybe someday I'll buy one to pull. I grew up with a hydro 186 and someday would like to own one of those.

Exactly. My grandads H and 70 diesel JD have sentimental attachment so they won’t leave, and I think a super M would look good. Then right up to the 06 series can go straight to the salvage yard lol. Just no attachment to them🤷‍♂️  

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I have encountered this problem a few times. I plan on buying them at the owners estate sale after they pass on

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Ya I'm 35 and always get that, " what the heck ya want with that for" from older farmers. I know a guy with a cat 2 3 quick hitch and I told him I would buy him a nice quick hitch to replace his and he wont sell it to.me just because he ses "its dumb fornme to want it so bad when it's just a quick hitch" ya it's hard for alot of younger guys to get collections going . I usually have to buy junk and go from there cause of the cost to start with somthing nice here is crazy high

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Reading this is like ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, been there .....sometimes still there.

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When I really got interested into IH and researching everything from construction to truck to farm equip. My favorite era was starting with the 06’s thru 5x88’s........ in all aspects of IH products. 

Then when I ACTUALLY got some IH stuff, it was from 40’s and 50’s. I appreciate and am glad for what I have so far. But I’d like to get new IH equipment also. The big thing for me right now is the money isn’t there.......

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3 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:

In addition to what has been said, one thing that annoys me is when I see someone in their 70s or older in a mobility cart, packing an oxygen bottle, and obviously close to the end of the line out bidding young guys wanting to get into the hobby just so he could add another tractor to the 50 he already has.  Sorry if that offends anyone. 

I've noticed that the average antique buyer at auction are padding their estate sale, sad truth but it forces a young guy like me into buying new junk. 

 

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Boy, never seen a crew of 20 and 30 somethings acting like they are 75 at the coffee shop having an arguement over who told who to get off their lawn first................Half the fun of this whole thing is finding the "Deal"...........If everyone gave the stuff away where would the fun be?  

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41 minutes ago, TP from Central PA said:

Boy, never seen a crew of 20 and 30 somethings acting like they are 75 at the coffee shop having an arguement over who told who to get off their lawn first................Half the fun of this whole thing is finding the "Deal"...........If everyone gave the stuff away where would the fun be?  

I can understand everybody likes different ends of the hobby. Some are after the chase or the deal, others like to wrench on stuff, some like to use them.

That being said, somebody who asks 4 times a realistic value for something and refuses to negotiate  in my book,  is not somebody remotely rational.  I understand asking a bit more then its worth, but come on, 4 times more? Lets be realistic.

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1 hour ago, Old F-14 said:

I can understand everybody likes different ends of the hobby. Some are after the chase or the deal, others like to wrench on stuff, some like to use them.

That being said, somebody who asks 4 times a realistic value for something and refuses to negotiate  in my book,  is not somebody remotely rational.  I understand asking a bit more then its worth, but come on, 4 times more? Lets be realistic.

You are missing the point............who is determining this realistic value?  His is different than yours..........leave it sit and rot and move on, buy it at the sale when scrap is down for nothing.    

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most hoarders never want to part with anything so its moot on price even if they tell you one, they are so attached to the items they really couldnt sell it even if you called their bluff - its a true sickness and sad 

outside of that I find its fun to get into a conversation with these old old folks about their justification and reasons and then go down that road with them and what their intentions were for it and what my plans are etc...........i have had people offer to give me things after they realize im not some wheeler dealer doing it to resell or for $$ and allow them to be a part of the repairs they never got to complete, one tractor I fixed up for a guy that was too old to do it, sent him pix, showed him how it went and then sold it BACK to a family member for the same price i gave for it plus parts costs out of honor and respect for the old guy. I got it for the novelty and to learn because I knew it was easy for me. 

Another I fixed up for a family, just charged them for parts and they gave me a brush hog for my time. I never asked, they wanted to pay me and I knew they didnt have any $$ and the parents were going to sell the farm.  I said well if you want to give me that old brush hog that would be fine 😉

be patient it will happen 

2 hours ago, Old F-14 said:

I can understand everybody likes different ends of the hobby. Some are after the chase or the deal, others like to wrench on stuff, some like to use them.

That being said, somebody who asks 4 times a realistic value for something and refuses to negotiate  in my book,  is not somebody remotely rational.  I understand asking a bit more then its worth, but come on, 4 times more? Lets be realistic.

 

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15 minutes ago, searcyfarms said:

most hoarders never want to part with anything so its moot on price even if they tell you one, they are so attached to the items they really couldnt sell it even if you called their bluff - its a true sickness and sad 

outside of that I find its fun to get into a conversation with these old old folks about their justification and reasons and then go down that road with them and what their intentions were for it and what my plans are etc...........i have had people offer to give me things after they realize im not some wheeler dealer doing it to resell or for $$ and allow them to be a part of the repairs they never got to complete, one tractor I fixed up for a guy that was too old to do it, sent him pix, showed him how it went and then sold it BACK to a family member for the same price i gave for it plus parts costs out of honor and respect for the old guy. I got it for the novelty and to learn because I knew it was easy for me. 

Another I fixed up for a family, just charged them for parts and they gave me a brush hog for my time. I never asked, they wanted to pay me and I knew they didnt have any $$ and the parents were going to sell the farm.  I said well if you want to give me that old brush hog that would be fine 😉

be patient it will happen 

 

That was a really cool thing of you to do, fixing and selling back to family member. Also helping out someone by fixing their tractor when they couldn't. Hats off to you sir. Im sure both of those families really appreciated it.

My take is things are worth whatever the seller and buyer agree they are worth. In this case i would agree tore apart and full of water really would hurt value in my eyes......the seller had a diff take. Too bad he didnt cover it an leave in 1 piece. There will be others tho.

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It's only worth what someone will pay for it.......he must think someone else will pay more, wish him luck!

This happens to all of us, my brother and a neighbor told me about a guy in NY state that has a bunch of red iron.  Has common stuff in a shed, while things like a 826 Hydro gold demo are out in a pasture with a tree growing in it.  The neighbor made what I thought was an insane offer on it when they were up there and the owner wanted double that.........to me considering its condition from the pictures I seen, a 1/4 of his offer would have been too much, but that is how the game gets played.  Honestly, those tractors will probably be scrapped some day as few probably understand what is truly there, but you can't loose sleep over it.

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