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10 minutes ago, shot_gun_red said:

Its a 3/4 with a drw set up, 3500 had a straight rear frame no drop in front of rear wheels

Nope. K30's were made as one ton pickup trucks. Dana 60 front,14 boltrear ,205 transfer case.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, exSW said:

Nope. K30's were made as one ton pickup trucks. Dana 60 front,14 boltrear ,205 transfer case.

 

 

I have an '82 4x4 dually, 6.2L D, 4sp, 4.56 gears that is maybe a "heavy duty" tonner? Whenever I buy parts (bearings, seals, u-joints, whatever) The parts man will say they show two different sizes for that. It always takes the bigger/heavier part. The rear axle seems narrower, The front tires track exactly in between the the back two. It was not military, it was civilian CC (guessing because it had a flatbed on it when I bought it) pickup. Maybe that is all normal difference between a CC and a box pickup. Don't know, above my paygrade😄

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21 minutes ago, exSW said:

Nope. K30's were made as one ton pickup trucks. Dana 60 front,14 boltrear ,205 transfer case.

 

 

YES your right ! But that one is a K20 with  the dana 44 front with spicer hubs and a 14 bolt rear . Last year for the big external bolted on hubs was 76 ,77 was a internal mounted hub !

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28 minutes ago, sandhiller said:

I have an '82 4x4 dually, 6.2L D, 4sp, 4.56 gears that is maybe a "heavy duty" tonner? Whenever I buy parts (bearings, seals, u-joints, whatever) The parts man will say they show two different sizes for that. It always takes the bigger/heavier part. The rear axle seems narrower, The front tires track exactly in between the the back two. It was not military, it was civilian CC (guessing because it had a flatbed on it when I bought it) pickup. Maybe that is all normal difference between a CC and a box pickup. Don't know, above my paygrade😄

I know  the cab & chassis had 14bolt full float & pick up box had Dana 70. Maybe there’s a difference in track between the 2. 

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1 hour ago, shot_gun_red said:

YES your right ! But that one is a K20 with  the dana 44 front with spicer hubs and a 14 bolt rear . Last year for the big external bolted on hubs was 76 ,77 was a internal mounted hub !

Now you're going to make me walk .Got a '77 K20 in a fencerow. Has a 44 with lock out hubs . The smaller Warns not the. big shiny ones that fire truck has.

 

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, exSW said:

Now you're going to make me walk .Got a '77 K20 in a fencerow. Has a 44 with lock out hubs . The smaller Warns not the. big shiny ones that fire truck has.

 

 

 

 

Don't go!!! yes we agree again!

77 44 was the small chrome hub like we both said 76 was the last big hub with 6 3/8 allen bolts like the fire truck posted

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8 hours ago, ny bill o said:

there's fiscal responsibility for you. if it had gone out to well publicized bids, I bet the FD would have gotten way more than $5k for it.

Yep, there was one up here in MI a couple months back on the govt auction site. I think it was a 78, and maybe a 3/4 ton? Could have been a one ton, either way it had single rear wheels. Had a regular pickup box on it yet. 13,000 miles, went for around $8500.

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2 hours ago, D1206 said:

I know  the cab & chassis had 14bolt full float & pick up box had Dana 70. Maybe there’s a difference in track between the 2. 

There is a difference in track width. Dana 70HD that came in the pickup box were wider. Front tire tracked with the inside dual. 

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6 minutes ago, WishIhada1466 said:

There is a difference in track width. Dana 70HD that came in the pickup box were wider. Front tire tracked with the inside dual. 

 

2 hours ago, D1206 said:

I know  the cab & chassis had 14bolt full float & pick up box had Dana 70. Maybe there’s a difference in track between the 2. 

I believe there are 3 different width available back then. We had a '81 dually K3500 454 w 456 rears in the widest of the 3 width rears .

If I remember it was 92" outside of the tires with stock 235-16

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25 minutes ago, shot_gun_red said:

Don't go!!! yes we agree again!

77 44 was the small chrome hub like we both said 76 was the last big hub with 6 3/8 allen bolts like the fire truck posted

Either way, I’m still bummed out. I hadn’t even registered the odd front /rear axle setup, been seeing it my whole life and never questioned it. 

That one had a PTO pump and a 300? Gallon tank. Plus chain saws, hand tools, hose, bladder bags, the list goes on , dorset is a well equipped department. Haven’t even seen the new one. 

East  dorset has a pretty slick truck too. 98 f350srw It’s a manual trans and I’m pretty sure it’s got a v10 but could be wrong there. 3k ish on the clock . Has an aluminum body with tank pump and tools. 

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4 minutes ago, bitty said:

 

I believe there are 3 different width available back then. We had a '81 dually K3500 454 w 456 rears in the widest of the 3 width rears 

Yeah. The cc dually had a narrow 14 bolt, single wheels had a standard width 14 bolt and the K30s that came factory with a pickup box had the wide D70HD. I had a 78 K30 3+3 dually that originally had the pickup box. I bought it for the front and rearend and swapped them under my 79 K20. 1 tons also had different spring perch widths on the axles and if I'm not mistaken that old K30 had taller frame rails. I also had a 76 K20 with the big hub D44 and I would agree that's what that truck has for a front axle. I dont think GM made a regular production K30 with a Dana 60 front until '77. Prior to that 1 tons were all 2wd. 

Here are some pictures of my 79 K20 in various forms. Started a K20, the 1 ton axles were added and it became a dually. Then I kept the same dually axles but swapped the front to single wheel hubs. Now's is back to its factory axles and I sold the 1 ton running gear. Sorry for the hijack but I love square bodies. imagejpg1_zps4dedffff.jpg.d67fb598ade476a01757b791d95f4dad.jpg

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How it started.

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How it is now.

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Stick $5k in ur pocket and go 4x4 low mileage shopping.

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11 minutes ago, WishIhada1466 said:

Yeah. The cc dually had a narrow 14 bolt, single wheels had a standard width 14 bolt and the K30s that came factory with a pickup box had the wide D70HD. I had a 78 K30 3+3 dually that originally had the pickup box. I bought it for the front and rearend and swapped them under my 79 K20. 1 tons also had different spring perch widths on the axles and if I'm not mistaken that old K30 had taller frame rails. I also had a 76 K20 with the big hub D44 and I would agree that's what that truck has for a front axle. I dont think GM made a regular production K30 with a Dana 60 front until '77. Prior to that 1 tons were all 2wd. 

Here are some pictures of my 79 K20 in various forms. Started a K20, the 1 ton axles were added and it became a dually. Then I kept the same dually axles but swapped the front to single wheel hubs. Now's is back to its factory axles and I sold the 1 ton running gear. Sorry for the hijack but I love square bodies. imagejpg1_zps4dedffff.jpg.d67fb598ade476a01757b791d95f4dad.jpg

imagejpg4_zps39024215.jpg.6607813862725f672789c8225942f4d4.jpg

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How it started.

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How it is now.

Yes, the K30’s & 35s had wider rails behind the cab. I found out the hard way about spring perch width few years ago converting a K35 to a 25. Thought I’d just unbolt that Dana 70 & set in a 14bolt semi float, ended up changing spring hangers & then was good. Nice rig by the way too👍👍

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2 minutes ago, MTO said:

Come home with 5k in ur pocket

Wasnt in the market , would have been an Impulse purchase anyway. I'm saving up for our 76' tanker anyway. That one I will fight over, the world has been forewarned. Another town has a k20 late 70's that is also in very nice shape, has a period correct cap and everything there's going to be a line out the door for that when it's time. 

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19 minutes ago, WishIhada1466 said:

Yeah. The cc dually had a narrow 14 bolt, single wheels had a standard width 14 bolt and the K30s that came factory with a pickup box had the wide D70HD. I had a 78 K30 3+3 dually that originally had the pickup box. I bought it for the front and rearend and swapped them under my 79 K20. 1 tons also had different spring perch widths on the axles and if I'm not mistaken that old K30 had taller frame rails. I also had a 76 K20 with the big hub D44 and I would agree that's what that truck has for a front axle. I dont think GM made a regular production K30 with a Dana 60 front until '77. Prior to that 1 tons were all 2wd. 

Here are some pictures of my 79 K20 in various forms. Started a K20, the 1 ton axles were added and it became a dually. Then I kept the same dually axles but swapped the front to single wheel hubs. Now's is back to its factory axles and I sold the 1 ton running gear. Sorry for the hijack but I love square bodies. imagejpg1_zps4dedffff.jpg.d67fb598ade476a01757b791d95f4dad.jpg

imagejpg4_zps39024215.jpg.6607813862725f672789c8225942f4d4.jpg

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How it started.

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How it is now.

That looks sharp , I like it best with the welder body on it. 

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12 hours ago, 495man said:

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I didn't think GM had a factory built 4x4 dually until after the squarebodies?

I have one out back with a snow plow on it also. Fairly common.

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