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Little more work today. New bushings and seals in the bolster along with shimming it as well. put the bolster in the frame with cultivator mounts on. Whipped out a new pivot pin since my old one looked like a camshaft. Hung the axle then called it a night

 

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Upper wishbone installed and spindle extensions put on. Lower wishbone was welded to the back side of the extensions because they somehow managed to brake off the through piece with the threads. Somehow never broke the axle or spindles. Found out that the wishbone from a super M and newer is the same diameter behind the spindle. gonna cut the ends off of one i have on the shelf then repair the wishbone off the 30 with them. bad news is the spindle hole is 1-1/8 and the threaded portin on the super M wishbone is 1-3/8. ..........guess its back to machining parts for this turd. lol

Pepper is overlooking the work done

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That front axle is unlike anything else I have seen.  Thanks for sharing!

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21 hours ago, Old-F20 said:

 

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What’s pepper charge per hr?

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58 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

What’s pepper charge per hr?

shes not expensive but sure can be moody......lol

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20 hours ago, nepoweshiekfarmalls said:

That front axle is unlike anything else I have seen.  Thanks for sharing!

spindle extensions sure do make it look strange

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So it seems the wishbone  pivot stems are the same part from Pre 39 clear up to the 66 series. about 30 minutes of flipping through parts books and research taught me that one......lol

The original lower wishbone had the ends broke off them and they were welded to the backside of the lower spindle. cut all that mess off and cleaned it up to see what i was working with. Luckily the diameter of the lower wishbone is the same as the Super M and up factory widefront wishbone. Happen to have one on the shelf that someone snapped the pivot ball out of so it was sacraficed today. OEM it used a fine pitch 1-3/8 nut but the holes in the spindle are 1-1/8. Back tot he lathe we went and turned it down to fit. Thats about all i got done today

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Old F20,

I had never considered being a professional slacker but believe I could be trained and adapt to it pretty easy!

 Your shop is......... well, ........ awesome! I lke your ideas of the curtains to contain dust dirt fumes. Do you have a heated floor?

Thanks for posting the nice project pictures of your rare IH tractors,  your shop and and helpers too! 

Regards,

 Chris

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On 1/3/2020 at 1:10 PM, Old-F20 said:

1947 OS4 experimental. live hyd and rear hitch. 50 of them made
1971 F350 390/C6 dana 60. doing an engine rebuild
SRX700
Super H with mower and sprayer

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THe OS-4 Experimental tractor is an important find. I have seen original photos of one and always assumed that IH only built a couple and they were all scrapped. The fact that IH built a quantity of them and was experimenting with rear hydraulic systems in the 1940s is very interesting. Great to see this one in good hands. Regards from Michael H. in Australia

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On 11/9/2019 at 12:30 PM, Old-F20 said:

Working on 2 F30 canes in the shop this winter. Front one is a 'low wheel' cane and the back one is a 'high wheel' cane. The high wheels used a spindle extension that bolts tot he axle making it taller and a bit wider. Both will be on full steel and the rears for the high wheel are 66 inches tall without lugs.

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Great to see these old beauties being saved! There is a least one restored F-30 Cane here in Australia. 

Regards from Michael H.😎

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On 12/31/2019 at 6:39 PM, IHKIWI said:

 Very cool project you have going on there👍..... both these appear to have “narrow” rear ends....was this std for the cane tractors??

Really pleased you are putting the effort in to save a couple of very unusual ( and probably rare) tractors ....good for you 👍

Do you happen to know production volumes for these cane specials???

Heath, NZ

I believe the Cane version of the F-30 had a serial number suffix "CNW' (Cane, Narrow rearend Wide front) According to Guy Fay's book the first F-30 Cane was built in January 1935. There was a F-30 Cane "High Speed" built in 1938.

I have a reprint of 194O US farm machinery catalog, the F-30 Cane was still listed although the regular F-30 had been discontinued. Guy Fay's book claims some F-30 Cane tractors were still built to order until the Farmall MV came into production in 1942.

Regards from Michael H. in Australia😎

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22 hours ago, Michael Halsall said:

I believe the Cane version of the F-30 had a serial number suffix "CNW' (Cane, Narrow rearend Wide front) According to Guy Fay's book the first F-30 Cane was built in January 1935. There was a F-30 Cane "High Speed" built in 1938.

I have a reprint of 194O US farm machinery catalog, the F-30 Cane was still listed although the regular F-30 had been discontinued. Guy Fay's book claims some F-30 Cane tractors were still built to order until the Farmall MV came into production in 1942.

Regards from Michael H. in Australia😎

On 12/31/2019 at 1:39 AM, IHKIWI said:

 Very cool project you have going on there👍..... both these appear to have “narrow” rear ends....was this std for the cane tractors??

Really pleased you are putting the effort in to save a couple of very unusual ( and probably rare) tractors ....good for you 👍

Do you happen to know production volumes for these cane specials???

Heath, NZ

According to the serial number suffix for the Cane tractors they would all be narrows. the designation for one is CNW on the serial. C for Cane, N for narrow rear and W for wide front axle. The high wheel was originally a NW tractor since its a Duckbill (1934 model) and production line Canes didnt come out until 1935. Ive seen a number of late 34's that have been essentially converted to Canes simply bu changing the front axle since the bolsters are the same. We somewhat concluded that there was enough demand for Cane tractors that fairly new ones were converted for that duty simply by changing the axle. There are no production numbers that we know of. Later in production they made a high speed Cane that has a factory OD unit in the back of the clutch housing. this made those tractors about 8 inches longer than the standard canes. Later in production they went to a style of axle that looks like the HV or MV would have without removable spindle or spindle extensions

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Great info , thanks a lot, ....cool project👍

Heath, NZ

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On 1/2/2020 at 9:13 PM, Old-F20 said:

couple shop pics. red curtains are the welding area when it gets smokey or lots of grinding. red an white curtains are the paint booth/washbay

 

 

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VERY NICE. Like the curtains ,priced one for a paint area but couldnt swing it right now. How many shop cats ya got? love seeing em lounge around,ours got hit..in road

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got 3 that are about 5 months old and one about 7 months old. they are def good at lounging......

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Switched gears a little bit and started in on the engine. Im supposed to have back surgery next month (no def date yet) so I want to get the heavy stuff out of the way while im laid up for a while. Tore the engine down to just about nothing. going to get new main bearings, crank has been turned .020 under with new babbits poured. Sleeves gettin put in the good block. Polished the crank up just a touch and cleaned the faced of the flywheel

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Hope all goes well with your surgery,  Ryan.  Wishing you a quick recovery. 

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Busy weekend. Started with a bare block and got most of the engine done. Pressed on new crank bearings and pressed the crank in the block. Set the engine in the chassis to put the smaller stuff on next weekend. Welded up the lower wishbone that was butchered and farmerized. Hopefully next weekend the front wheels will be on and the engine just about complete

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worked on getting the steering all finished up and front wheels on before surgery.

Made a new tie rod from an F20 steering shaft. turned down from 7/8 to .73 for 3/4x10 threads. Modified an existing tie rod end to be the correct style for an F series wide front. Made a new drag link out of parts of a steering are of a 10-20. the steering arms were reamed out for an automotive style 7 degree tie rod so i made new barrels for a 5/8 factory pin. put the front wheels on and felt good because it looks so much better now....lol

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27 minutes ago, Old-F20 said:

worked on getting the steering all finished up and front wheels on before surgery.

Made a new tie rod from an F20 steering shaft. turned down from 7/8 to .73 for 3/4x10 threads. Modified an existing tie rod end to be the correct style for an F series wide front. Made a new drag link out of parts of a steering are of a 10-20. the steering arms were reamed out for an automotive style 7 degree tie rod so i made new barrels for a 5/8 factory pin. put the front wheels on and felt good because it looks so much better now....lol

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That looks great. I enjoy that type of fabrication 

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Great work. Like myself you gotta love those DeWalt 20 volt tools. 

Best of luck with the surgery 

John

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You going to paint them or leave them natural state ???

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2 hours ago, Whats in the barn ? said:

You going to paint them or leave them natural state ???

leaving them rusty. ive got a spray mixed up for the shiny bits that will blend then in short order

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Finally getting back to this thing after surgery......

tryin to take it easy and do small stuff so been working on getting the engine buttoned up.

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Glad that you are feeling up to some shop time again. Nice to see some fresh progress. 

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