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What does the forward transmission housing of the IH hydro tractors (like a 186) look like?  Do they have the same pto gear arrangement?  Cover under the pto gear?

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I think the 66 series and up run the dry bolster up front. You could have a machinist bore a hole through the front bolster and you could run something off the front of the engine crank shaft.

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23 hours ago, Gearclash said:

What does the forward transmission housing of the IH hydro tractors (like a 186) look like?  Do they have the same pto gear arrangement?  Cover under the pto gear?

Here's a picture of a hydro

 

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Okay, a question about the hydro anatomy.  I see the hydro trans appears to have the same bolt on cover on the bottom.  Are those mounts for what I am assuming are the hydro and motor servos mounted to that plate or are they part of the case?

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Guys I realize that this is a  "Red"  forum,  and I love the old red tractors/equipment.

But,  there may just come a time when a person needs to buy a John Deere 3010-4020.......they came from the factory with a front PTO shaft.

When I was a kid we had a Deere 50 front mount mower (driven with the front PTO) and a New Idea hay conditioner hooked to the rear of a 4020.....it worked fine.

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No room in the feed alley for one of these?

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1 hour ago, Mark (EC,IN) said:

Guys I realize that this is a  "Red"  forum,  and I love the old red tractors/equipment.

But,  there may just come a time when a person needs to buy a John Deere 3010-4020.......they came from the factory with a front PTO shaft.

When I was a kid we had a Deere 50 front mount mower (driven with the front PTO) and a New Idea hay conditioner hooked to the rear of a 4020.....it worked fine.

4320 and I think the big ones 45/46 had front pto. A 4320 would be what you need. I completely forgot about these.

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11 hours ago, Mark (EC,IN) said:

Guys I realize that this is a  "Red"  forum,  and I love the old red tractors/equipment.

But,  there may just come a time when a person needs to buy a John Deere 3010-4020.......they came from the factory with a front PTO shaft.

When I was a kid we had a Deere 50 front mount mower (driven with the front PTO) and a New Idea hay conditioner hooked to the rear of a 4020.....it worked fine.

What RPM did that front PTO spin at?  1000?  Engine speed?  Was it independent of the rear PTO?

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9 hours ago, 1586 Jeff said:

What RPM did that front PTO spin at?  1000?  Engine speed?  Was it independent of the rear PTO?

I'm pretty sure it was a 1000,  and it was not independent of the rear.

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No green tractors for me . . . not that I think they are junk, they’re not for the most part. I like to have as much commonality as possible in what little equipment I have.  If I were to go with a tractor that had a factory front PTO, I would find another MX Maxxum.  I will have to evaluate the Bi-Di as a possibility though.

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