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Guys chopped our silage yesterday. Our guy from last year died in a auto accident and these are some local guys just trying to help out. These dump bodies they used were the slickest I have seen. Pushed it up with little bidi. Had to move pile out to field so no bales or anything for the sides. I am going to stack straw around sides and end. Here in a bit. The had a jay lor wagon and the blue one a penta I think. 

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Drive up those sides and pack it crossway as well. Being extra careful of course!

We never used makeshift sides, just packed all sides equally and was careful with pushing silage up too high. That pile will keep as well as any bunker if you PACK- PACK-PACK! And cover it with plastic and tires. 

We also never used tires until I hired a custom guy. We always pulled plastic over it and sealed the edges with dirt making sure there wasn’t any gabs in the dirt. Always kept good. In fact, one year when I opened the corn pile you could smell the alcohol in it 🤪

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Pack it well . That's what is the first most important thing, seal it off and attach the plastic (preferably two layers, oxygen barrier and white/black ) , then weight it down as much as possible ASAP once done packing

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I helped a neighbour chop cut some corn recently, I remarked how the hi dump wagon was cutting edge technology in the 90s, but looked upon as outdated now, sure was better than hitching up wagons every load

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29 minutes ago, IHKeith said:

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I helped a neighbour chop cut some corn recently, I remarked how the hi dump wagon was cutting edge technology in the 90s, but looked upon as outdated now, sure was better than hitching up wagons every load

We have a 3950 jd wide row chopper I was going to hook it up with our narrow head from 3800 but this guy was in neighborhood and got it done.

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1 hour ago, dale560 said:

We have a 3950 jd wide row chopper I was going to hook it up with our narrow head from 3800 but this guy was in neighborhood and got it done.

This one is a 35 JD, it had a red tractor in front of it, a Maxxum 90 iirc, I don’t get excited about Fiat IH tractors similar to Fiat Chrysler vehicles, it was a comfortable machine to run though, my Dad told me that the JD 35 was rated for 75hp at 540RPM and 100hp iirc at 1000RPM, pretty low hp numbers for chopping by today’s standards 

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6 hours ago, IHKeith said:

This one is a 35 JD, it had a red tractor in front of it, a Maxxum 90 iirc, I don’t get excited about Fiat IH tractors similar to Fiat Chrysler vehicles, it was a comfortable machine to run though, my Dad told me that the JD 35 was rated for 75hp at 540RPM and 100hp iirc at 1000RPM, pretty low hp numbers for chopping by today’s standards 

We had a JD 38 at one time. Got it when Dad was young. Did one year with a 1 row head behind the 460 gasser. Then got a 826 and ran a 2 row on it, traded the 826 on a 986 and it spent the rest of its tenure here behind that. By the time we got rid of it, it was plum worre out. It wasn't a question of if it would break during the day. It was a question of when, what and how bad it broke. Got really good at scavenging the boneyard around Wayland Mi for parts for it. 

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got our pile covered tonight it was dark when we got done so I didnt get a pic of finished job but here is what it kinda looks like

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have a video but it says it's too big can't get it to load

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Waiting for the custom cutters to show up. So got started with 1486 and the 720 that hasn't been used for 6 years.

Filling the wagon in 7 minutes in 2nd gear. Got 30 acres done 65 to go. Custom guys to show up Friday.

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43 minutes ago, Timothy56 said:

Waiting for the custom cutters to show up. So got started with 1486 and the 720 that hasn't been used for 6 years.

Filling the wagon in 7 minutes in 2nd gear. Got 30 acres done 65 to go. Custom guys to show up Friday.

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Looks like an United Farm tools wagon. We bought one brand new in '81

We are back at it today. It would be nice to get done finally.....

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44 minutes ago, Timothy56 said:

Waiting for the custom cutters to show up. So got started with 1486 and the 720 that hasn't been used for 6 years.

Filling the wagon in 7 minutes in 2nd gear. Got 30 acres done 65 to go. Custom guys to show up Friday.

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It is tough to find custom guys up here.everyone is so far behind. Nice outfit you have there.

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1 hour ago, Timothy56 said:

Waiting for the custom cutters to show up. So got started with 1486 and the 720 that hasn't been used for 6 years.

Filling the wagon in 7 minutes in 2nd gear. Got 30 acres done 65 to go. Custom guys to show up Friday.

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Looks a little moist....

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We finished silage 3 weeks ago. Many acres were poor, 30+ inches of rain this season was too much and stunted a lot of it. On higher ground it was nearly cab high. This ground is sandy so we got by ok, got stuck with truck once and left some ruts with cutter. I switched over to dark side this year with the 3950 cutter. This is only picture I took, hope next year is a little drier. Last years riverbottom was much better

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12 hours ago, Timothy56 said:

Waiting for the custom cutters to show up. So got started with 1486 and the 720 that hasn't been used for 6 years.

Filling the wagon in 7 minutes in 2nd gear. Got 30 acres done 65 to go. Custom guys to show up Friday.

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Smart move keeping your harvesting equipment. I know a few guys that went to hiring their harvesting out and sold their equipment because they hated to have all that stuff sitting around.

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14 hours ago, Timothy56 said:

Waiting for the custom cutters to show up. So got started with 1486 and the 720 that hasn't been used for 6 years.

Filling the wagon in 7 minutes in 2nd gear. Got 30 acres done 65 to go. Custom guys to show up Friday.

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Write yourself a check for 3500. Cost us 4600 for 41 acres. That was cheaper than the guys before though

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10 minutes ago, dale560 said:

Write yourself a check for 3500. Cost us 4600 for 41 acres. That was cheaper than the guys before though

Do they charge by the acre? 

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12 minutes ago, dale560 said:

Write yourself a check for 3500. Cost us 4600 for 41 acres. That was cheaper than the guys before though

Got a few more acres done today as I am a one man show. The field is close to yard so do not use the truck just run around the corner and dump then pack every two loads

The guys that I hired are at $1300 an hour  ( on the cutter)  (JD 7800 10 row)   they do every thing. Trouble is I think they could move faster. Last year they ran  across a 40 rod wide field, instead of cutting in the middle. Told him he had better have had the cutter shut off. 25-30 seconds to drive across the end cost $10 it adds up after a while.

 Had a guy from Canada for 3 years he was $8 a ton plus $1 to packing ( Krone Big X something 12 row).  3 years ago had a guy out of Mandan ND he was at $1100 an hour for every thing ( Class 9 some thing and a 10 row)  and I put the fuel in the chopper and the packing tractor. Probably about 1.5 gal to the acre for both.

 

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43 minutes ago, Timothy56 said:

Got a few more acres done today as I am a one man show. The field is close to yard so do not use the truck just run around the corner and dump then pack every two loads

The guys that I hired are at $1300 an hour  ( on the cutter)  (JD 7800 10 row)   they do every thing. Trouble is I think they could move faster. Last year they ran  across a 40 rod wide field, instead of cutting in the middle. Told him he had better have had the cutter shut off. 25-30 seconds to drive across the end cost $10 it adds up after a while.

 Had a guy from Canada for 3 years he was $8 a ton plus $1 to packing ( Krone Big X something 12 row).  3 years ago had a guy out of Mandan ND he was at $1100 an hour for every thing ( Class 9 some thing and a 10 row)  and I put the fuel in the chopper and the packing tractor. Probably about 1.5 gal to the acre for both.

 

That is how I did it for a few years pull the wagon to pile push up every 5 or 6 loads. 2 loads an hour that way 1/2 acre an hour. This guy that chopped for us said 107 an acre and he supplied fuel. We had one guy out of dazey ND before for a few years. He was 65 an acre plus you had to fuel everything and pay truck drivers hourly wage separate. Worked out to 90 to 120 an acre for a while. Then his nephew charged by the dry ton of monitor. This was more and guy last year charged around 110 plus tractor on wagon and packing and chopper. This was about 175 an acre but 40 was for packing. Bet the guy you had from Mandan was Bil to our guy who died recently.

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Okay everyone around here charges x amount per cutterhead hour on the chopper and then x amount for each thing hauling. If they're packing that would be x amount per hour also. 

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Here are some pictures of pile it is not the best pile for starting with no sides. I am always impressed those little bidirectionals will accomplish what they can. 11 feet to top I have pushed up to 15 ft high on a narrower pile

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This is some decent yielding corn. We opened up this field last week it was real green yet. The one part of this field lays real flat and we wanted to get it done before the last expected rain. In places it's as tall as the roof of the chopper. My cutterhead hours so far this year in our corn and our total cutterhead hours. 

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We seed an integra variety been double fertilizer on corn. It was about the height of the 1086 and chopper 26 ton estimate before snow maybe would have done 24 chopper figured 22 to 25 I think 22 tons is about at 60% or whatever silage is wet.

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We are at 1,800 foot elevation and a 15 ton yield is a good average year. Hard to get more than 17.5 tons . We planted 102 as the longest season and that is pushing it hard. 90-95 is safer maturity

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Here is pic of what’s left and before snow. The wagons are 25 ton. They would be about full in 16 30 inch rows through 1320 feet. Sometimes full. So 1.2 acres to 25 tons. Top pic is grain corn by accident

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