TP from Central PA Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I would run AVgas in everything here if it wasn't for the cost..................anything to get rid of the ethanol that causes A$$ aches. My fuel supplier can get me 93 without ethanol but you need to buy a minimum that is quite high(300 I believe), and then you have to wait for them to get enough stops to fill the truck as they have to pull it out of a different terminal than they normally use. Only thing gas here we use on a regular basis is the gator, everything else gets treatment............Which is fine, but half the time I find myself trying to remember if I dumped it in when I filled it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Englander Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, TP from Central PA said: I would run AVgas in everything here if it wasn't for the cost..................anything to get rid of the ethanol that causes A$$ aches. My fuel supplier can get me 93 without ethanol but you need to buy a minimum that is quite high(300 I believe), and then you have to wait for them to get enough stops to fill the truck as they have to pull it out of a different terminal than they normally use. Only thing gas here we use on a regular basis is the gator, everything else gets treatment............Which is fine, but half the time I find myself trying to remember if I dumped it in when I filled it or not. I don't seem to have any problems with E10 but from your and other's post some do. Avgas is extremely stable for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 OK. let try this ? I use brand x and brand y fuel stabilizer and think Sea foam is skunk pee in a bottle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 8 hours ago, New Englander said: I don't seem to have any problems with E10 but from your and other's post some do. Avgas is extremely stable for sure. The one thing that many people don't realize is that the gas sold in Willamsport PA is different than in Ohio , different than in Illinois, Etc Our one semi retired mechanic used to work for professional petroleum a company that built fuel trucks and gas station work. He explained how much different things are in different regions. Climate changes the issues experienced ( low humidity areas compared to high humidity areas) due to more moisture in the air to get drawn into more susceptible fuel for those problems. AK welder has slightly different problems to deal with in his environment during the cold spells that guys down south don't ever experience. I have a cousin that works with small engines and he indicated that over half of the repair work is fuel related now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP from Central PA Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, bitty said: I have a cousin that works with small engines and he indicated that over half of the repair work is fuel related now I would guess without looking 75% of outdoor power equipment I touched was a fuel issue or relation. Walk behind snowblowers were the worst, one year they weren't used, next year they sat until almost spring when a late storm would show up. Nobody would treat fuel or think about running them until they needed it. Generators were right behind them. Push mowers atleast would see normal use and weren't so bad, although they showed up too needing carbs cleaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I won't remember the correct materials ( viton maybe?) but the ethanol eats certain rubber type compounds that used to be used in carburetors etc. This is evident in the needle and seat. I will try to get some pictures of the inside of the trash pump gas tank that was half full of gas over winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP from Central PA Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, bitty said: I won't remember the correct materials ( viton maybe?) but the ethanol eats certain rubber type compounds that used to be used in carburetors etc. This is evident in the needle and seat. I will try to get some pictures of the inside of the trash pump gas tank that was half full of gas over winter Biggest issue is the water being absorbed and settling out in the form of white crystals that plugs up everything. I used to keep a glass mason jar of stuff I drained out of a snowblower to show customers, it worked to convince some of the issues, others didn't care and they repeated the same repair every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillman Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 my better judgement tells me to let this go but...……. I posted that I don't care for Sea Foam and really have no use for it( tried couple bottles) so I actually don't always agree with FD FD and I have met twice . and he has a good reputation as a mechanic. I have never seen a post from him that will lead to failure but there is a small group who jump all over what he says and they nitpick. . FD works out of a shop on the family farm for a living from my understanding and that's a tough gig boys! and he is busy with no plans to get a job due to lack of work His critics should try it ………... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Cook Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 9:47 AM, Farmall Doctor said: Again, as I stated before, " I had an old low compression Farmall A in the shop with fresh high octane leaded Aviation fuel. It was fresh, and taken from the same tank as he uses to fill his Harvard. Even after a proper complete tuneup, it was a dog. I drained that fuel and put in some mid grade and it was like a little hot rod." It may not be as noticeable with a good battery ignition unit and electric starting where you can adjust the spark advance, but with a magneto you only have one choice for spark advance! My Super A with the original points distributor ignition just loves my 100LL left over from my spraying operation. The 1340 did not like it without MMO in it. 1gal MMO per 800 gal 100LL. That fuel is about 8 years old. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Cook Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 6:24 AM, 460 said: When 90 rec fuel was not as common, I would run 100octane low lead Av gas in the generator. I hear it has a 10 year shelf life plus with the low lead it cant hurt the valves and guides. I have seen no poor running effects. Ummm, it really isn't LOW lead. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
460 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Ron Cook said: Ummm, it really isn't LOW lead. Ron Well it has to be lower then some of the racing fuels I have used. I cut 110 racing with some 93 in the ratio of half gallon to 12 gallons or there abouts. The race fuel is so strong I can still smell the race fuel in the exhaust on my Mustang. I assume this is mostly the lead additives that I smell. Certainly smells better the straight unleaded. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.EVIL Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 10 hours ago, 460 said: Well it has to be lower then some of the racing fuels I have used. I cut 110 racing with some 93 in the ratio of half gallon to 12 gallons or there abouts. The race fuel is so strong I can still smell the race fuel in the exhaust on my Mustang. I assume this is mostly the lead additives that I smell. Certainly smells better the straight unleaded. Scott I read an article in Hot Rod magazine by C.J. Baker back in about 1970 about blending leaded race gas with no-lead premium to run in high compression engines. I've blended gas like that myself with great results. I had an OSSA 250 Six Day Replica enduro bike that was a slightly detuned motocross engine. It pinged pretty bad on the best no-lead gas I could buy. And 2-strokes hate to ping. I'd buy 2 gallon of leaded race gas and mix about a gallon of race gas to 5 gallons of premium and add the 2-stroke oil. Bike ran great and no pinging no matter how hot it got. Bike normally got around 40 mpg, but the race gas/premium mix was so expensive it cost as much to run as my F-150 4wd pickup per mile. I mixed race gas and premium up until I started using the Kwik-Trip gas. Son had a Yamaha jet ski for a couple years. Had a 1.8L 4 cyl super-charged and inter-cooled engine. Rated around 250 hp, Was it fast enough? NO!, first winter it got a MUCH bigger intercooler, a much bigger supercharger impeller, high performance pump impeller. The tuning system allowed individual cylinder tuning at different loads and rpms. Instead of 67 mph maximum it could run about 65 at half throttle, wide open it ran 72-73 mph briefly then you had to get out of it, it would over-heat. Son was running the same crappy E10 gas that plugged up the little Carter carb on a 10 hp Kohler in about a month. That jet ski was exactly what Kwik-Trip had in mind when they decided to sell that 91 octane recreation fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 This popped up on my YouTube, thought it was interesting . I would like to see the results on a stock distilate M also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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