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38 minutes ago, TP from Central PA said:

Yeah its a shame, the imports ruined it for all the locals who were here for generations.  We had black neighbors here for 40 some years that were awesome people, the husband passed on and the wife stayed in the house until she passed.  They used to tell us they hated what was happening as much or more than we did.  Luck for me we are about 7 or so miles out of the big town, and on the south side of the river, so different school district, so the issues weren't as big as just across the bridge. Just for an example on how bad it was, my mother went to church in town on a saturday evening, 3 imports from philly stole the car out of the church parking lot!!!!!  They were heading back to philly with it to chop it up, but unfortunately the city cops thought it was odd 3 imports were in a car looking like they were leaving woodstock with smoke rolling out the windows with a bunch of catholic church stickers in the back window and pulled them over......................so they never made it, and the car turned out to be a POS that should have been chopped up.

Yeah, same storyline here.

Some issues started in the late 60s/ early 70s here when a bunch of people left Detroit in the aftermath of the 67 riots. That tension transferred here. Albion at the time had just shy of 20,000 population. They actually had numerous riots in the late 60s first half of the 70s. They even had a full blown one at the high school while Dad was attending. After that, the rest of his school career when classes changed the police had officers walking the hallways in pairs with their night sticks out and riot helmets on. The official matra was swing first, ask questions later. Someone even shot at the principal. That was when the wheels started falling off

Late 70s/early 80s came with a ton of factory closings. I know at one point Albion had a unemployment rate of 28% in 1982. I was born in 84. 80s farm crisis in full swing. Like my Dad said. He was screwed either way. Couldn't make money farming. Couldn't get work off the farm. He didn't want to give up farming so we stayed instead of moving where there was work. It led to a number of very lean years. Late 80s first half of the 90s. A good deal of hard workers went with that first purge.

I tell people. You know you're in a down and out area when you're at your first day of school every year. When they have the assembly to go over the rules, one of them they stressed was don't go into the nearby abandoned factories. Until i was a Freshman in high school, i never went to school more than a block from a abandoned factory. Real easy to get into one of those. 

I graduated from high school in 2002. Albion was in the midst of another job slump. We shedded another 2000 jobs in 3 months. Town was under 10,000 by that point. A lot more ambitious people left looking for work which left those that the hardest they work is avoiding work at all cost. The town has become a mini Detroit. The low lifes weren't leaving. Why? Aren't looking for work and if i move my welfare checks might not find me. Town is 6000 now. Tons of abandoned houses to give it that real Detroit feeling. No money to fix the roads other than the ones the state will pay for. Have 3 real life government ran housing projects like you would find in a major city in a town of 6000. School district closed 3 years ago because it was poorly ran and over 3 million in debt.

Yeah we have a real urban ghetto here.

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3 hours ago, Reichow7120 said:

The problem is a class problem more than a race problem. The other issue is that these low class people all seem to gather around each other. Just like flies on a pile of cow $---. They also do a good job of sel segregation themselves. White trash with white trash, blacks with blacks, Hispanics with Hispanics,etc. Plus god has never made any of them sterile. They reproduce like rabits

A big issue is that welfare has become a profession. In the times of old there may have been charity, but it was just enough to get you by til things got better ( or you crooked, one or the other). When government went into handing out welfare checks for buying votes to keep them in power. Now when you are living comfortably, why try to better yourself or at least contribute to society. Some of them are living as well if not better then some of us on here without getting off of their @--. 

Neighbor of ours is a retired school teacher. She tells of a story with one of her students that refused to apply himself in class. No matter what he wouldn't do anything. One day she flat asked him. "Don't you want to better yourself?" He answered "Why? My parents lived like this and have gotten along fine. As long as the check from the government comes, we do just fine."

Makes me glad that I pay my taxes😡 

I know of another case of a guy living down the road from my parents, He claims disability with a bad back. But yet he's out cutting wood and baling small square bales of straw on the ground and then throwing them up on a wagon by himself. If he wants to screw around on his little farm, great, but why are you drawing disability when you can do that? If you want to strictly farm, go for it. But i shouldn't have to help pay your disability when you obviously aren't.

A number of years ago the girlfriend asked what it would take to clean our town up. Without blinking i asked if nuclear weapons were a option. If it wasn't for the fallout i think that would be the best option.

Until life is unpleasant enough for them to do something about it. It will never change and to do that you have to get the free government handouts to end to the nonproductive. Politicians aren't going to do that because of the possibility of losing power. We're stuck with this until either death or the house of cards comes tumbling down

The house of cards are trembling... wait until we all get free healthcare.... question is though, if it’s free than why do our taxes have to go up?🧐

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9 hours ago, Steve C. said:

My point in posting this quote wasn't to villainize Lincoln, but to point out that people that throw around the words "white supremacist" might want to think a little harder about what they're saying.

They KNOW what they’re saying! They’re fueling the fire in hopes it blows up into their “race wars”. 

Instilling hatred and violence in the populace is one of their many goals/ attempts to vilify this Country as a Country of hatred. In order to establish a one government world, you have to destroy the one Country that was built upon the values placed before us in our Constitution.

 

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12 hours ago, Indy Farmer said:

There is only one race, human. Doesn't matter what color we are.

There are different races with different people who excell in different things, brainwashing is the reason people ignore that, just like they say there is no difference between Male and female,  which is crazy, there is nothing wrong with people being different and nothing wrong with people wanting to be with other people like themselves,  as long as you show each other respect

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8 hours ago, Indy Farmer said:

It's coherent. :lol:

Laziness is not predicated on color. For every lazy non-white I know, I'd bet I know 3 just as lazy whites. (numbers based on my experience, not national standards)

Of welfare beneficiaries (if one correlates welfare to work ethic), whites make up a larger share of recipients than blacks or Hispanics in the US.

And what is the percentage of whites population 

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20 minutes ago, Rusty shackleford said:

There are different races with different people who excell in different things, brainwashing is the reason people ignore that, just like they say there is no difference between Male and female,  which is crazy, there is nothing wrong with people being different and nothing wrong with people wanting to be with other people like themselves,  as long as you show each other respect

I like how you put that, our country either thrives on diversity or destroys itself. It is all how we perceive and react to it. It is part of the dumbing down of America. It is easier to control people when they all think/act/react the same. Cattle in a pen. Thankfully there are enough free thinkers left to keep up the fight. 

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I have no time for any of the hate groups white supremist, neo Nazi, KKK, the white right, black panthers or antha . To me they represent the lowest form of trash. Had a guy I graduated with join the KKK. A few years later he called and wanted me to come to west TN and get him out of jail. I asked whey he was there? Burning crosses spray painting houses. I told him no, you got yourself in there now get yourself out. 

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If there weren't white supremacists the Media would have had to invent them. How else could they paint all us rural types with the same brush.

Wait a minute.....ya think maybe?

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13 hours ago, exSW said:

If there weren't white supremacists the Media would have had to invent them. How else could they paint all us rural types with the same brush.

Wait a minute.....ya think maybe?

No, we are deplorables with bazooka's remember....................live up in there hills with no shoes or running water...............That is why the last election makes no sense to people on the coasts.

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4 hours ago, TP from Central PA said:

No, we are deplorables with bazooka's remember....................live up in there hills with no shoes or running water...............That is why the last election makes no sense to people on the coasts.

Well then how do they explain all those Counties that went for President Obama (twice) and then turned Trump? This of course, is a rhetorical question not requiring an answer.

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On 8/6/2019 at 2:55 PM, Reichow7120 said:

The problem is a class problem more than a race problem. The other issue is that these low class people all seem to gather around each other. Just like flies on a pile of cow $---. They also do a good job of sel segregation themselves. White trash with white trash, blacks with blacks, Hispanics with Hispanics,etc. Plus god has never made any of them sterile. They reproduce like rabits

A big issue is that welfare has become a profession. In the times of old there may have been charity, but it was just enough to get you by til things got better ( or you crooked, one or the other). When government went into handing out welfare checks for buying votes to keep them in power. Now when you are living comfortably, why try to better yourself or at least contribute to society. Some of them are living as well if not better then some of us on here without getting off of their @--. 

Neighbor of ours is a retired school teacher. She tells of a story with one of her students that refused to apply himself in class. No matter what he wouldn't do anything. One day she flat asked him. "Don't you want to better yourself?" He answered "Why? My parents lived like this and have gotten along fine. As long as the check from the government comes, we do just fine."

Makes me glad that I pay my taxes😡 

I know of another case of a guy living down the road from my parents, He claims disability with a bad back. But yet he's out cutting wood and baling small square bales of straw on the ground and then throwing them up on a wagon by himself. If he wants to screw around on his little farm, great, but why are you drawing disability when you can do that? If you want to strictly farm, go for it. But i shouldn't have to help pay your disability when you obviously aren't.

A number of years ago the girlfriend asked what it would take to clean our town up. Without blinking i asked if nuclear weapons were a option. If it wasn't for the fallout i think that would be the best option.

Until life is unpleasant enough for them to do something about it. It will never change and to do that you have to get the free government handouts to end to the nonproductive. Politicians aren't going to do that because of the possibility of losing power. We're stuck with this until either death or the house of cards comes tumbling down

If they were required to work at minimum wage for 40 hrs a week to get their benefits, I'd be ok with that. Doing that may make life miserable enough for them to want to go out and better themselves to make more money if they have to work for it either way. Heck, you know as well as I do in our own state, you can't even drug test them. Against their "rights". You have to ask them if they ever use drugs in their application first, and then if they answer yes, then they could possibly be tested. Then these huge 'results' are published saying how only 4% or some such number were removed from the program for drug use. Those were probably 50/50 of 2 things. Too honest to not lie, or dumber than all of their friends and fellow recipients. There's no lie detecting test when they fill out the paperwork, it's yes, or no. How do you think they'll answer?

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Taxes are the issue here; but I know they are the issue in Illinois as well. The lower 2/3 supports the upper 1/3 in that state.  Show  me a democrat led city and I will show you an urban ghetto supported by taxpayers on the outskirts. Problem here is we have a county mayor and a city mayor. The county mayor controls the assessor and collector. Where do the majority of the taxes go? You got it -the city. And with out new socialist county mayor there is no limit to how high taxes can go. Voice any opposition to their growing "budget" and you are opposed to "supporting the children" and a closet racist if you are white.  They know nothing of financial accountability. Only solution is to leave high tax areas and let them deal with the tax base that is left. I figure I will be called a racist even if I call for any type of accountability.

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9 hours ago, RBootsMI said:

If they were required to work at minimum wage for 40 hrs a week to get their benefits, I'd be ok with that. Doing that may make life miserable enough for them to want to go out and better themselves to make more money if they have to work for it either way. Heck, you know as well as I do in our own state, you can't even drug test them. Against their "rights". You have to ask them if they ever use drugs in their application first, and then if they answer yes, then they could possibly be tested. Then these huge 'results' are published saying how only 4% or some such number were removed from the program for drug use. Those were probably 50/50 of 2 things. Too honest to not lie, or dumber than all of their friends and fellow recipients. There's no lie detecting test when they fill out the paperwork, it's yes, or no. How do you think they'll answer?

Sad part is there are tons of jobs that can't be filled because those that will work already have work. Those that won't work aren't worth a damn to fill these jobs and won't do it, yet we have to support them.

How bad is it in your areas RBootsMI? When ive been around St Johns i didn't think it looked quite as bad as it is in my area. Of course i realize that appearances aren't everything. Maybe you guys are getting the Lansing trash for all i know. With I-94 running right through here it is easy to leave Detroit and end up here. It also doesn't help that Jackson is a giant prison colony that when released they don't seem to leave or be productive.

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I've been called racist because I tell them I don't owe them anything quit acting like someone does and if they want it pull there pants up and get to getting it but what they don't understand is I say it to anybody no matter what color they are trash is trash, there are maybe different colors of people but one thing we all have in common is low life's. Tp said best only ones to hate is the lazy sob's

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13 hours ago, Reichow7120 said:

Sad part is there are tons of jobs that can't be filled because those that will work already have work. Those that won't work aren't worth a damn to fill these jobs and won't do it, yet we have to support them.

How bad is it in your areas RBootsMI? When ive been around St Johns i didn't think it looked quite as bad as it is in my area. Of course i realize that appearances aren't everything. Maybe you guys are getting the Lansing trash for all i know. With I-94 running right through here it is easy to leave Detroit and end up here. It also doesn't help that Jackson is a giant prison colony that when released they don't seem to leave or be productive.

It's not too bad around St. Johns really. I actually live north of there about 10 miles now. What's really bad is the small little villages in Gratiot County where I live. Not all of them, but 75% of them are havens for people that are happy getting by with govt money. I saw a ton of that in my job where I worked a certain area. Drove me nuts to see all the people come out and sit on their porches or in lawn chairs in their yards when we had to do a project in these villages. But, it was something new, other than just sitting around smoking weed and drinking in their yards. Same people, day after day. Stop in the little stores to buy some crackers and a tea, watch them buy way overpriced stuff and a case of mountain dew with their bridge cards. Everything that can be bought with a bridge card is about 3 time what it ought to be since the recipient doesn't care, and the store owner is there to profit from it. Had people actually climb up on my truck to run their mouth and complain how I was waking them up too early with all the noise I was making and how ridiculous it was. And this wasn't starting work in the area early either, it was arriving at 10 or 11 in the morning and then starting. I don't deal with that stuff well, but my job requires it.

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On 8/6/2019 at 5:20 AM, Indy Farmer said:

There is only one race, human. Doesn't matter what color we are.

But the shade of tractor paint does matter! 😀

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20 hours ago, 88power said:

I've been called racist because I tell them I don't owe them anything quit acting like someone does and if they want it pull there pants up and get to getting it but what they don't understand is I say it to anybody no matter what color they are trash is trash, there are maybe different colors of people but one thing we all have in common is low life's. Tp said best only ones to hate is the lazy sob's

Imo its the bad ones of any race that keep the stereotypes alive. As you say there are good and bad of all colors and creeds.

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Lincolns plan was to send all the former slaves to islands off the coast of Florida or down in the cuba area and those islands, they weren't to stay in the U.S.  I have nothing against blacks but I vote white and I marry white an most my friends are white and if you have a problem with that then I can tell you where to stick it, Ive been in the south all my life Ive seen things most or you will never cause they just aint in the Midwest like here where I'm at.  My childhood was ruined because of forced busing, bringing them out to our neighborhoods and we going to there neighborhoods and if ya didn't think blacks hate whites you should've been that 12 year old boy from the suburbs then that hot August day in 1975

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2 hours ago, Hydro70 said:

Lincolns plan was to send all the former slaves to islands off the coast of Florida or down in the cuba area and those islands, they weren't to stay in the U.S.  I have nothing against blacks but I vote white and I marry white an most my friends are white and if you have a problem with that then I can tell you where to stick it, Ive been in the south all my life Ive seen things most or you will never cause they just aint in the Midwest like here where I'm at.  My childhood was ruined because of forced busing, bringing them out to our neighborhoods and we going to there neighborhoods and if ya didn't think blacks hate whites you should've been that 12 year old boy from the suburbs then that hot August day in 1975

If i remember correctly Lincoln was going to send the freed slaves back to Africa. To what is present day Liberia.

 

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On 8/6/2019 at 8:53 AM, zleinenbach said:

I agree that racism is a two way street and will probably never be completely erased.

i really don’t think the govt. should be playing referee in this debate.

if everyone would quit the over exaggerated hysteria when the simply don’t agree with someone else I think a lot would be taken care of. But the squeaky wheel gets the grease motto has taken full effect lately

I could not agree more. Thanks for sharing an excellent opinion. 

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Just now, Bushwacker1 said:

I could not agree more. Thanks for sharing an excellent opinion. 

One should read the book that the US Government does not want people to read (if you can find a copy) is " LINCOLN THE MAN" by Edgar Lee Masters. After reading this 500 page book, I now care less of the man. He didn't show any compassion towards the northern people when they disagreed with him during his Great War. And your Government sure showed love towards the INDIANS, didn't they?I could say more but would only cause more grief.  

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