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Its amazing to me the precision to me of a old piece of equipment.  The clearances are so close and then to add pounding though hay and alfalfa and keeping time etc to all make life easier for mankind to feed our livestock.  You have prob forgotten more about balers than i will ever know buddy!  Will you sneak in with a touch up on the needle mounts and get some yellow on them?  I assume some stuff the paint will through the clearance off.

Have you actually ran the W55 in some hay?  That be a photoshoot worth $.  The 560 and W55 and the 806LP and 71 sitting along a stack of 3 ties and a COE CALI hay truck at dusk. 

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Troy , 

it is an engineering marvel ! No computers in those days ! It worked and still does !

yes we will be doing touch up painting when we get her baling . 
If you want to see my old 55w baling . Go to utube and enter Stenchfield ranch  ,Paso Robles ,.Ca. 55wbaling oats , I bought it there after It baled 200 bales of oats  , did not miss one .

tony

On 5/12/2021 at 8:39 AM, TroyDairy said:

Its amazing to me the precision to me of a old piece of equipment.  The clearances are so close and then to add pounding though hay and alfalfa and keeping time etc to all make life easier for mankind to feed our livestock.  You have prob forgotten more about balers than i will ever know buddy!  Will you sneak in with a touch up on the needle mounts and get some yellow on them?  I assume some stuff the paint will through the clearance off.

Have you actually ran the W55 in some hay?  That be a photoshoot worth $.  The 560 and W55 and the 806LP and 71 sitting along a stack of 3 ties and a COE CALI hay truck at dusk. 

 

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5/13/21 

Sorry guys John and I had scheduling difficulties  , hoping to have everything back from machine shop for next week and rap her up and ready for wire !

looking forward to closing the checkbook on this project ! Lol lol lol lol 

tony

 

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On 4/15/2021 at 7:09 PM, Tonyinca said:

As long as good Lord keeps me above ground and moving , I’ll be getting into something!!

What a great attitude and outlook!

The baler thread has been enjoyable and educational.

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Just got this video from Tony. Looks like progress to me!

 

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1 hour ago, FarmallFan said:

Just got this video from Tony. Looks like progress to me!

 

Thank you BJ Kline ! 
5/19/21  Happy Days ! Started just over two years ago ! Received it May 1 , started tear down May 19 , 2019
today out of six banged up needles we finally ended up with three good ones ! Dialed them in all morning then had to remove them to dial in the carrier arm , or cradle as book calls it , by 3pm had plunger timed to needles had to move chains few notches , easier said then done but she is cycling ,all seems to be going smooth . The tinny rattle you may hear is we need to set up needle brakes under machine  and dial them into 1 1/2 inch deflection at top of needle stroke .

few pictures here from needles back from machine shop this morning and the tools he made to straighten these particular needle. 
note that green needle how bent it is and it’s been straighten some .

It was meeny minny  Mo ! Lol.

John and I are besides our selves , next get together we will finish up on adjustments and hopefully load wire 

Tony 

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On 5/11/2021 at 8:37 PM, Absent Minded Farmer said:

Did you look for NOS needles by chance? I'd wager it's a slim chance of finding them, but may not be impossible.

Mike

Yes , I did ! Ran the numbers through my dealer and several source but hit a wall !

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5/26/21

  So called finishing touches that look so simple but is taxing this old brain with Geometry half circles, etc . Had no template to go by just my memory of it in the  60 ‘ s . 
All my donors were missing this pulley break but ours had one and it was very helpful and safety factor . Parts book only has a muddled picture .

I slotted inside bracket but the outer bracket will need to be slotted also and account for a 3/16’s break pad to be riveted on stop . The measurements have to coordinate with the appropriate belt and pulley travel . 
tony 

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And people say it's a waste of time to teach kids geometry and algebra. Just wait till they start fabricating parts for a 60 year old baler!!!  lol  

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13 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

And people say it's a waste of time to teach kids geometry and algebra. Just wait till they start fabricating parts for a 60 year old baler!!!  lol  

  Its laughable but your right ! 

    In my life and business I used mostly additions, subtractions, divisions, Calibrations of spray rigs made me use my brain.

      Used these from grammar school and for life. 

    BUT !  Playing in shop with these restorations , I have had to hone my reading directions skills ,? , Fractions big time, Algebra, and Geometry ! ?

      And these started being important from 60 to now , working in shop on restorations .? Not to mention the Guys that did the RedKid , I watched them with dial meters, calipers, and math that I forgot that existed !

    My wife says all this is good for my brain , However, she says that ;"I  must of forgotten  my subtractions because of all the money being subtracted from the checking account ,since I started doing the more sophisticated math" ! ?

Tony

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On 5/26/2021 at 12:47 PM, Tonyinca said:

5/26/21

  So called finishing touches that look so simple but is taxing this old brain with Geometry half circles, etc . Had no template to go by just my memory of it in the  60 ‘ s . 
All my donors were missing this pulley break but ours had one and it was very helpful and safety factor . Parts book only has a muddled picture .

I slotted inside bracket but the outer bracket will need to be slotted also and account for a 3/16’s break pad to be riveted on stop . The measurements have to coordinate with the appropriate belt and pulley travel . 
tony 

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6/2/21  Had to do some modification  to make pully brake  work properly.

 Drilled new holes down as close to pad holder as possible , The back bracket is slotted , Die grinder cut from existing holes to shorten upright. the back brace we had to counter sink and weld a 3/8 headless bolt for the little yellow brace to hold brake bracket  steady .  Today, pieces off to powder coating , then to friction shop for 3/16 brake pad.

  We adjusted the needle brakes under baler, they needed a little modify also and cycled, all appears in order, ready for wire next Wed. lets see if it will tie . 

  Was hoping for wire today but it was 4:30 by time we were  ready and it was 106 outside by now we were tired hot and three coolers in shop was having hard time keeping us cool, So called it a day.

    Tony

     Tony

  

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6/4/21

today I loaded three rolls of baling wire onto machine . 
boxes got damaged in transit so I applied Gorilla tape to hold them together . I lost two of new boxes as box gave out the tape holding wire in place broke .

I have two more good boxes will need to get another to fill rack . But really three is all we need. 
depending on my day tomorrow , I may thread it to needles and give it a cycle .

have a contractor coming at 8 am to do a set up of a four post lift in shop. Don’t know how that will go . Have two spots picked out , will let him be final say .

wire is still American made !

tony 

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6/6/21

as I mention in above post , had a contractor coming to install a 9000 lbs lift . Decided to go in shed two to make more room . 
my plan was to go with the RedKid on it but still kicking it around .

it came with frame and casters to move it around empty , however, for sake of placement if I can put truck on there and roll it back ten feet it would be neatly tuck in corner optimizing room. Frame and casters are not quite heavy enough to roll with pickup on lift ,so , I will beef them up with a plate and heavier caster , before placing truck on it .

RedKid only weighs 3400 lbs . Lift is rated at 4500 front and 4500 rear axle .
here are few pictures of installers and lift . 
If this goes well I can fit #39 rollover plow , #8 little genius two bottom plow , and Dyno under it , and LA case without remove exhaust .

 Thinking of another next year for flat bed truck . I think I can free up at least four or five  stalls with both and have everything under roof. And be able to have the #71 & 55w balers in same shed .

Three reasons I will not build another shed !!!! Lol , 1st Divorce 2nd money , time and permits 3rd who in heck would buy a 20 ac with three shops on it When I am gone !!! ??? Lol  

tony  

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Can’t help with problem #1&2 but I think almost everyone here would be drooling for a 3 shop setup?

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9 hours ago, Tonyinca said:

1st Divorce 2nd money , time and permits 3rd who in heck would buy a 20 ac with three shops on it When I am gone !!! ??? Lol

You never know Tony......this has worked before, might work again. ?

 

 

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2 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

You never know Tony......this has worked before, might work again. ?

 

 

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It’s worked couple times but I am afraid I have used up all my Goodwill capital ! Lol

its not just my dear wife that I need convince but my own body and my darn pocket book , they are all siding against me ! My own body probably being the worst to rebel , Brain thinks I am back in my 20’s and Bod says , No you don’t ! 
tony 

 

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Tony I admire you.  Not that everyone can do it your way but you really do premier number 1 restorations.  

I get tractors but how did you become such an expert on this baler rebuild?  Balers can be tricky for me at least.

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4 hours ago, hobbyfarm said:

Tony I admire you.  Not that everyone can do it your way but you really do premier number 1 restorations.  

I get tractors but how did you become such an expert on this baler rebuild?  Balers can be tricky for me at least.

Thank you Sir !
   Jury still out on this baler restoration , hopefully this Wed. I will thread wire and see if it ties !!!!!???? That’s the final exam. In my mind .

the reason I have a good understanding of this baler is because I ran one like it from 1963 to 1974 , I was pretty young and it stayed with me .I was 17 when my Dad bought it new , I remember it in Allied equipment show room and my Dad let me do commercial work with it ( when not doing our hay )to make enough money to get married Feb of 1965 ! Lol . So it impacted my early life . I got engaged in 1964 my Graduation night from HS. My Dad’s words to me was how in h$ll you going to support a wife you have 500.00 to your name ? That when I asked him to loan it to me to do the commercial work , I had 5000.00 in bank when I got married . Made with a IH #100 balanced head mower , a IH #12 two point basket Rake and a IH #71 baler. 
  Dad died in 1967 and I baled our hay with it until 1975 season when I traded it for a  New Holland 290 super sweep three wire .

thank you for the kind words , I try to bring them back to how I remember them from back then .

tony 

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Always love to hear the history behind farm equipment Very nice Job Tony 

Looking forward to seeing  a tractor hooker to that baler

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6/9/21. HALALULIA !!!!!!

threaded our wire and cycled ! It actually tied !

I will post stills here and will send video to BJ Kline to post . 
we got us three knots ! Just need hay now!

never thought I would get to this day . 
first time I threaded a #71 since 1974 and probably first time this baler tied three knots with out breaking something in 40 years .

tony 

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Here’s the video. Nice work Tony!

 

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Two parts to this tying video , the cycling with the starter was to see if all were doing what suppose to , the second  is running full speed doing the tying 

thank you BJ for posting ! 
we have few odds and ends to finish then to a hay field see if it will make square bales ! Lol lol

tony 

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6/9/21 just a glimpse back over the last two years when at times it looked so arduous and now it looks so simple . Lol 

tony 

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