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Baler Wednesday

2/10/21 

The pick up reel was installed today . Drive shaft and sprockets line up .

adjustment handle installed with balance spring  . Gauge wheel installed . 
bale tensioners installed . 
Ran engine some more and engaged plunger 

we need to rectify a hard spot at near end of plunger outer stroke .

hopefully  next week we install teeth and strippers on reel .

Tony 

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10 hours ago, hardtail said:

It’s alive....?

Waking up little by little !

first the engine , then plunger by itself , ext will be put on chain and run auger , then knotter without needles , then with needles , 

then with feeder fork . 
trying to keep from bending stuff ! Lol lol 

tony 

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BTW fellas , you probably wonder why is that gallon jug of low ash oil in many pictures laying on its side under baler ?
that is ; “ MY PILLOW “ while laying and working under the old girl by this old man ! Lol

tony 

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Wow Tony!  i have not been following this thread, but I have to say when you rebuild something you REALLY rebuild it!  I remember when you went through all of the grief with the LP engine.  You may have covered it somewhere in the thread, but what yellow paint are you using?

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7 hours ago, Rawleigh99 said:

Wow Tony!  i have not been following this thread, but I have to say when you rebuild something you REALLY rebuild it!  I remember when you went through all of the grief with the LP engine.  You may have covered it somewhere in the thread, but what yellow paint are you using?

 

59 minutes ago, hardtail said:

We are anxiously awaiting 

Both the completion and the paint code...lol

Fellas ,  

I deal with a Valspar  industrial distributor on all of my restorations . Some times my painter has tint it to what my sample is .

I take my samples to David my painter and he gets what we need from the distributor by name of Schawn’s Company in Fresno , Ca . 
ask for Sherry , she knows me . It’s not common she had to order it and it took a while .

My invoice shows sp150  Gallon , single stage S1116 kanga Yellow . It’s a Poly Urethane . 
neighborhood of 400.00 per Gallon .  Plus hardener, reducer and all the condiments that go with primer and paint .

tony 

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On 2/11/2021 at 8:07 PM, Tonyinca said:

My invoice shows sp150  Gallon , single stage S1116 kanga Yellow . It’s a Poly Urethane . 
neighborhood of 400.00 per Gallon .  Plus hardener, reducer and all the condiments that go with primer and paint .

tony 

Why did that "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" quotation just flash thru my mind? lol

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2/13/21

Had to replace the Wix filter with a Fram filter 

the wix would not form a seal dribbled oil .

tried to save it but no go .

I am trying to design and manufacture the pulley brake that goes here . Of all donors none had a brake still on them . Parts book does not have good picture of it . So, I am testing my memory. 

I  remember ours did and never having problems with belt .

I am having problems Idling engine with lose belt .

tony 

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2/16/21

Guys , Drove into my nieghbor Eddie’s yard and Wow ! Like I was in the 70’s and 80’s !

this was the most classical combo you could find in Central Calif haying scene then and even now still ,for small bales in calif and Arizona.
856 in front of a Freeman 330 three twine with a Duetz  Diesel Engine . 
IMHO this set up is eye candy to this old timer !

He said, he is getting her ready not just for hay season this spring but also to show why the Freeman has stood the test of time out here when we run my IH 71 in the field for a little video action ! 
Darn , I hope my IH don’t let me down too bad. But what if I out bale him ??? Aha we won’t tell him! 

He has the flywheel off and all the knotter system , replacing the Frame configuration that knotters sit on .

tony 

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   What was the idea of the square baler needing an engine?  The tractor didnt have enough power?  All the square balers that I have been around used the pto to power them.  Thanks for showing me different farming equipment.  Nice job on restoring your baler,  something to be very proud of Tony.  

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All new to me too Red, this thing is on steroids, never seen the like in Alberta

How does the Freeman drive with belts also or pto shaft on the hitch? Can’t see too clearly?I’m sure he is itching for a bale off...

One thing I’ve noticed over the years on engine powering belts is it isn’t the smoothest delivery of power, the pulses of the engine gets the belts dancing more, I’ll assume the more cylinders supplying it and firing order helps that out somewhat but no comparison to throwing belts on an engine vs an electric motor on an auger...

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22 hours ago, redturbo said:

   What was the idea of the square baler needing an engine?  The tractor didnt have enough power?  All the square balers that I have been around used the pto to power them.  Thanks for showing me different farming equipment.  Nice job on restoring your baler,  something to be very proud of Tony.  

That’s a great question !

we have always had engines on our balers going back to the two cylinder Wisconsin and when you needed two guys sitting on each side of knotter feeding the wire.

only thing I can think is that fields are irrigated , fertilized and windrows are pretty heavy , most liked bales to average 120 lbs and the had to be tight for the bale wagon and tractors were always need elsewhere , many operators pulled them with Jeep’s or modified pickups . In the nineties there were some New Holland’s mostly up North on pto but seemed to be a minority of balers .

I will try researching it more . The big balers of today are all PTO ‘S 

tony 

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Until not to many years ago just did not see pto balers in California. I helped a neighbor that had pto baler and a new JD 6300 or maybe a 6400 in small fields of which there are many just another thing to keep looking out for. He moved to another baler with a engine in only a few years.

Back in the 70's and 80's a lot IH H's and M's JD A's AC WD45's all pulling three wire NH 290 balers with VD 4 Wiscions or a few with Ford 172's I think they are. They would of know way had the power to power baler on hilly ground. Making 120 lb 16x23 bales takes more than smaller bales.

 

The big plunger making lots of rocking and rolling of the baler. Never noted any belts dancing. Now belt slipping yes, way past time to slow down and hope you  don't plug the feeder or break a shear bolt. Both way to time consuming when you only hay a few hours of dew in the morning to make hay fit to baler. A good morning was 400 to 700 bales a morning. Much easier to match ground speed to hay if the baler has its own engine. You run them on the governor in good hay slow the tractor with your throttle, helps with more even bales that NH bale pickup machine needs to make a good stake.  

 

I would guess there could of been about as many shop modified NH 3 string balers in 90's than pto powered ones. Never dealt with one, but saw them at the farm show. A hydro one wheel drive with cab all where the tongue was on most balers.  

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2/17/21

Baler therapy Wednesday was little slower today , I could not help John much as I just had surgery on left arm removing cancer sun damage , have about four inches of stitches half way around wrist . 
I just did little stuff I could do with right arm 

John installed all the pickup reel teeth and stripper strips , we worked on plunger adjustments , I worked on engine fuel pump and fittings for fuel lines. Fuel pump was not pumping , was running from gravity flow of make shift tank being held up high with fork lift .Bale tensioners are done correctly finally .

Tony 

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Hoping that you have a quick recovery Tony!! 
I remember a neighbor having 2 IH balers with engines on them. He used a field across the road from his house as a junkyard. They were very old, had the IH letter series hoods over the engines. His boys hauled all of it off in the mid to late 90’s. Never took any mental notes or pictures of them. 

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Boy Tony it is looking good!!  Only thing better than IH red is IH yellow!!  Many many years ago when l was in high school, l worked for a custom baler in Oklahoma. He had a JD PTO driven baler and also a New Holland (?) with a Wisconsin 4 cyl. On the PTO baler,, he had a bigger size Massey tractor. l asked him why he had one PTO powered baler and a aux. engine powered one. His reasoning was the cost of a bigger tractor to handle the PTO driven one was more money than a smaller tractor with a aux. powered baler. And he was a 'ol tight wad with money so l believed him...lol 

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Tony, I just had to post this picture.  I have backed my old NH 276 in the shop to rebuild the plunger and a few other minor things.  It looked pretty good in the field last year and sitting in the shed, or so I thought.  Once I got it in the shop, I immediately thought of your jaw-dropping restoration here, and decided mine looks about ready to haul for scrap!

I am astounded by the scope of your project.  I want to see it bale hay!

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On 2/16/2021 at 8:14 PM, Tonyinca said:

2/16/21

Guys , Drove into my nieghbor Eddie’s yard and Wow ! Like I was in the 70’s and 80’s !

this was the most classical combo you could find in Central Calif haying scene then and even now still ,for small bales in calif and Arizona.
856 in front of a Freeman 330 three twine with a Duetz  Diesel Engine . 
IMHO this set up is eye candy to this old timer !

He said, he is getting her ready not just for hay season this spring but also to show why the Freeman has stood the test of time out here when we run my IH 71 in the field for a little video action ! 
Darn , I hope my IH don’t let me down too bad. But what if I out bale him ??? Aha we won’t tell him! 

He has the flywheel off and all the knotter system , replacing the Frame configuration that knotters sit on .

tony 

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Them Freeman are heeaavy units.  All over E Wa hay land for smalls.  Agco looks like maj of big balers nowdays though.

Here are some newer Freemans for you friend Eddie if he really wants to get into idiot cubes.?

https://www.usauctionidonline.com/Listings/EquipmentFacts

 

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1/24/21

Great Baler therapy Wednesday !

completed pickup reel , installed fuel tank , made new fuel lines , installed bale weight indicator cable , installed bale shoot with spring and shock absorber ( sheet metal will be even on shoot after Emory cloth on paint lol ),installed hitch after reworking it .

still waiting on main drive pulley brake. Removed pu reel gauge wheel to straighten bracket to proper position .

next will be fill fuel see if fuel pump will do its thing and have her running with out nurse tank .

tony  

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I really like the light on the pickup below the engine.  Shows someone was listening to farmers or had baled at 3am before.  When shes done a photo shoot in a darkish hay field with the lights on and low to ground camera would be neat.  Hooked to the 560 or maybe 350u.  

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