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4 hours ago, exSW said:

Anything special about rebuilding a Wisconsin?

     Actually a simple engine,  However, parts are scarce and they have their ideocracies .

      This engine was not stuck, per se , It was dauber mud nests packed behind flywheel and  every crook and cranny.

     Tony

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31 minutes ago, Tonyinca said:

     Actually a simple engine,  However, parts are scarce and they have their ideocracies .

      This engine was not stuck, per se , It was dauber mud nests packed behind flywheel and  every crook and cranny.

     Tony

Those things are terrible. Had them in the control box of my round baler last summer. Couldn't figure out why it wouldn't finish cutting the twine! 

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how heavy a bale are you going make with this baler

asking cause never had a wire machine, we only ran twine and I think they were guessing sixty five lbs.

also were do you get wire today ?

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On ‎3‎/‎15‎/‎2020 at 6:14 AM, 560Dennis said:

how heavy a bale are you going make with this baler

asking cause never had a wire machine, we only ran twine and I think they were guessing sixty five lbs.

also were do you get wire today ?

  The average we shot for was 120 lbs.  Remember it had three wires around it and was tight not mushy.

  Guys in those days had a way of handling them  , we used loaders along side bob tail trucks out of field and used boom trucks to stack on sets of doubles for transport or for winter stacks at ranch. 

  Soon the bale wagon came on the scene  , then later the squeeze .

    As for wire I have a source that still handles it.  I have two unopened rolls in my 55 W baler now , the #71 baler will carry six rolls at a time .

       Remember this baler will be for show only , doing demonstration once or twice for authenticy and doing a bale at a time at a show demonstrations.

          So , plan is two more new rolls for the 55W and six new rolls for the #71 should take care of the rest my baling career.

        TSC can get it and there is a reputable Farm store in 30 miles South of me. that told me he keeps some in stock for a few horse customers that only want wire bales.

     Tony

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On 3/12/2020 at 11:47 AM, Tonyinca said:

     Actually a simple engine,  However, parts are scarce and they have their ideocracies .

      This engine was not stuck, per se , It was dauber mud nests packed behind flywheel and  every crook and cranny.

     Tony

The hats have half the total production of Wisconsin's here in PA...............Number of Hat outlets with parts.

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14 hours ago, TP from Central PA said:

The hats have half the total production of Wisconsin's here in PA...............Number of Hat outlets with parts.

Can you please elaborate on “ the hats “

is that a supply house or company specializing in Wisconsin parts . 
I tried looking up but no luck 

thanks , tony

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2 hours ago, Tonyinca said:

Can you please elaborate on “ the hats “

is that a supply house or company specializing in Wisconsin parts . 
I tried looking up but no luck 

thanks , tony

"Hats" Pennsylvania slang for Amish.

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Are you going to show the baler by it self at antique exhibitions ? Or with a tractor combination hitched ? Just wondering in advance what you thought ? 

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1 hour ago, 560Dennis said:

Are you going to show the baler by it self at antique exhibitions ? Or with a tractor combination hitched ? Just wondering in advance what you thought ? 

My Plan is to have tractor attached .

  My 560 would be the time period tractor .  Also the only two picture I can find in I.H. brochures, has what appears to be a 460 or 560 single wheel front pulling the 71.

  I believe that picture was taken in Madera County Calif. at the Alvin Gomes farm.   Its a small pic lower corner of baler page in the 1962 or 1963 equipment line up.

       Tony

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8 hours ago, exSW said:

"Hats" Pennsylvania slang for Amish.

Hats have every available Wisconsin strapped on a mower, crimper, rake, baler, and corn picker they own here...................

Beiler Small engine is a place to start(Google will bring them up, don't have my papers here at home).............Never dealt with them on Wisconsin stuff, but bought a bunch of Kawasaki's from them.  

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     I worked in shop yesterday while being ," Quarantine in place here in Ca. , "Thank God for the shop and the orchard to keep us moving .

       I took the stripped down  VG4D to a very good old school machine shop in a nearby community.

       Been going through sheet metal of engine ,planning to have it Powder Coated Glossy black.

      Been searching for NOS small parts for this engine , Think I have most.

       The Marvel- Schebler  VH carburetor is hard to find shafts etc.

     Tony 

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On ‎3‎/‎19‎/‎2020 at 11:09 AM, TP from Central PA said:

Hats have every available Wisconsin strapped on a mower, crimper, rake, baler, and corn picker they own here...................

Beiler Small engine is a place to start(Google will bring them up, don't have my papers here at home).............Never dealt with them on Wisconsin stuff, but bought a bunch of Kawasaki's from them.  

 Thank You TP from Central PA . 

       I should of known of Amish because when visiting PA few years back , You are right , Wiscon. on just about everything . lol

       Thank You Again , Appreciate your input,

        Tony

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     3/28/20

         Wisconsin engine is at Machine shop.

            Engine sheet metal being repaired and sent to Black powder coat

           Been shopping internet for Wisconsin engine parts on line , Going protronix new distributor ,  Marvel Schebler carb been replaced by Zenith all seem dimensions,

           Found Nos switches , gauge, muffler , gaskets ,etc

            Its been slow and difficult with  quarantine state order in place but I keep chipping at it.

           I am worried about painting my painter is health care provider for his  brother  who's had several strokes , David cannot take lightly many risks with C- virus

             Hoping I can have engine done and all parts available ready to go when machine shop is done.

              Tony

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  • 2 weeks later...

 Engine taking 30 over to clean up .  New pistons, Valves , seats.

    Two valves had to be cut off because they were bent , must of been stuck at some point.

    Crank had to be put under 50 ton press to get drive pulley off .

  Tony

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1 hour ago, TroyDairy said:

I see the tag..."one year to do this"........?  3 weeks of you know what and elbows!??

Its getting close to one year since we started .  If painting does not hold us up should be done next year this time.

  You may of misunderstood me I said two years . I knew it would not make CAFES this year if it was not canceled but would be there next year 2021.

     BTW I have agreed to roll our 2020 show into 2021 with me as Chairman again.:(

  Tony

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I read on May 2019 you typed one year project.....

 

But then the bean cutter and the Pickup and then... etc etc ??

Perfection takes time right?  Will there honestly be a bolt left unhandled?  If only it had a counter.  Can you imagine how many tons it has through it?  Now you know a  restored NH or Freeman Harrowbed hooked to the 1206 sure would complete the story.  An then may as well get a late 50s IH flatbed and pup to carry the hay.  I suppose then put a boom on the white IH flatbed you got.  You and Bob could put on quite the show.  Baling to pulling away to Petes with a load of hay. 

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18 minutes ago, TroyDairy said:

Inread May 2019 one year project...

 

But then the bean cutter and the Pickup and then... etc etc ??

Perfection takes time right? 

I must of screwed up , I never thought I could get that baler going in a year and that was before I ever heard of Covid -19 .  I never thought it would be held up by" a Covid 19 ." Its slowing everything down. Harder to order parts, harder to get certain services done because of limited crews, etc , etc

   You are right these things take time, sometimes it gets frustrating.  Bean cutter should of taken a month , turned into 6-7 months Trying to find that ticking , then having to tear into engine twice  . Truck just goes forever , Everything we touch has to be redone or re routed.

 Went to see it today , ran into problems with water pump need to re route water pipes because of other( PS) pumps and tanks taking the room.

   But it is getting all its fluids filled  today ! When done it will need to go to Alinement shop ,then drive the **** out of it to make sure it all works , then to upholstery to re do carpet.

  Tony

    

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On ‎5‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 7:28 PM, IHhogfarmer said:

Is this the one your talking about Tony? 

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Nice baler, big thing tho haha. I’ll be looking forward to seeing what you will do with it 

Fifty Eight Years ago today this add came out in our  Sunday Paper !

    I was 17 and remember showing it to my Dad. In 1963 he bought it new , I ran it till 1974.

        Hard to imagine how a piece of equipment (Iron) can deteriorate in so little time , thank God our bodies hold up little better. lol.

     Saying that from the three I have to make one .

      Tony

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8 minutes ago, Tonyinca said:

Fifty Eight Years ago today this add came out in our  Sunday Paper !

    I was 17 and remember showing it to my Dad. In 1963 he bought it new , I ran it till 1974.

        Hard to imagine how a piece of equipment (Iron) can deteriorate in so little time , thank God our bodies hold up little better. lol.

     Saying that from the three I have to make one .

      Tony

Awesome! I guess I kinda forgot about that date ( I do have a knack for remembering that kind of stuff).

Like 155 years ago tomorrow the Civil War ended. 

Anyhow Tony, Baler is looking great. I always look forward to seeing the progress!  

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On ‎7‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 2:29 PM, TroyDairy said:

Very cool.  Utah?  Good n dry to boot.  In Eureka NV my friend worked a hay ranch for few years.  We went down 2 3x.  Took me to man with the biggest personal collection of old machinery and trucks I've seen.  Olivers and jd and ih but some of everything.  Old semis and implements etc.  Could stayed for a day or 2.  0 rust!  5800 elevation and dry!

! cannot help but think this may be the same place you were at .

   This was at Diamond Valley Nevada  on a High Desert hay ranch .

  Said He had a lot of old equipment saved.

    Tony

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13 hours ago, Tonyinca said:

I must of screwed up , I never thought I could get that baler going in a year and that was before I ever heard of Covid -19 .  I never thought it would be held up by" a Covid 19 ." Its slowing everything down. Harder to order parts, harder to get certain services done because of limited crews, etc , etc

   You are right these things take time, sometimes it gets frustrating.  Bean cutter should of taken a month , turned into 6-7 months Trying to find that ticking , then having to tear into engine twice  . Truck just goes forever , Everything we touch has to be redone or re routed.

 Went to see it today , ran into problems with water pump need to re route water pipes because of other( PS) pumps and tanks taking the room.

   But it is getting all its fluids filled  today ! When done it will need to go to Alinement shop ,then drive the **** out of it to make sure it all works , then to upholstery to re do carpet.

  Tony

    

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That’s the reddest truck ever , I think 

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