dads706 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/5/2021 at 1:44 AM, sandhiller said: I remember checking cows with my grandpa. I was standing (so it was early 1950's maybe 52 or 3) in the front seat next to him. We would go check cows together. Cigar in his mouth driving his gray and white Packard across the pasture. Those were good times. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1586 Jeff Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 18 hours ago, sandhiller said: I always thought it was cool how well a winch worked. Bit of a learning curve getting the cable just right so I didn't leave much of a butt. Never had anyone show me how, trial and error. Thought I cut a fat hog when I got my first DuAl 250 loader with the grapple fork mounted to the loader arms instead of the bucket.😆 Left the drag fork hung in the barn. Jeff, I would like to see a picture of how you have your grapple mounted to the loader arms. Thank you! “Other Jeff” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1586 Jeff Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Double post. Please remove. Thank you! Edited December 11, 2021 by 1586 Jeff Double post. Please remove. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, 1586 Jeff said: Jeff, I would like to see a picture of how you have your grapple mounted to the loader arms. Thank you! “Other Jeff” Other Jeff😃, That M with the 250 is long gone and couldn't find a pic in the old pic box (pre interweb and cell phone cameras). So I found this on the internet. It looks like the exact same loader I had. Once you got used the the grapple and bucket moving separately, it worked pretty good to string hay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1256pickett Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, sandhiller said: That reminds me of my parents reaction when my brother bought his first cow unsupervised. The truck driver said “watch her, she’s got a look in her eye” before he opened the trailer. She got the nickname ‘wild cow’. She was also the reason we bought a bull and quit AI. Great cow though, threw good calves and never had to mess with them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkandcattle Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 11 hours ago, sandhiller said: As I laugh I realize. Wait thats me I bought a group of early p2 heifers from a fellow I knew. Neighbor bought the one that cleared three fences to get to his place. Of course they were not p2 three were not p anything 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1256pickett Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I know this was started as a thread of cattle pictures but I just watched this video on you tube that I think fits in well here. For this yankee it may be a little too romanticized but I really like this guys cooking and storytelling. Plus it’s a good way to bump this thread back to the top! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1256pickett Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I know this was started as a thread of cattle pictures but I just watched this video on you tube that I think fits in well here. For this yankee it may be a little too romanticized but I really like this guys cooking and storytelling. Plus it’s a good way to bump this thread back to the top! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmerboy72 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 just some pics of this year's group 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Farmerboy72 said: just some pics of this year's group Looks like a good place to weather any storm. Very comfy 🤠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightman Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 daughter’s 4-H steer and a feeding buddy that will end up in our freezer 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishIhada1466 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 It took me 32 years to have the opportunity to start my own cow herd. My Daughter got it done in 5. She purchased heifer #81 from our neighbor and my Wife and I gave her #31 out of our fall calf crop. Her purple (her favorite color) ear tags finally came in so we tagged them today. She was pretty happy. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyfarm Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Question for you guys. What is your success rate with twins in beef cattle? We had a set (free martin) born in 2020 that hit the ground running and never looked back. We finished them out. They were sold as beef qtrs in January. We had a set 2 weeks ago from a different cow. The first was still born. Definitely lifeless when born. The second wasnt right from day 1 and despite intervention is no longer going. The cow was earlier then expected but that seems to be the case in twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1256pickett Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 hours ago, hobbyfarm said: Question for you guys. What is your success rate with twins in beef cattle? We had a set (free martin) born in 2020 that hit the ground running and never looked back. We finished them out. They were sold as beef qtrs in January. We had a set 2 weeks ago from a different cow. The first was still born. Definitely lifeless when born. The second wasnt right from day 1 and despite intervention is no longer going. The cow was earlier then expected but that seems to be the case in twins. I have had good luck with them. Had many sets years ago averaged almost one set a year out of a 25-30 cow herd. Not as many lately, herd is a little smaller but still get proportionately less. I believe it’s genetic and I think the twin gene I had in the herd back then has been diluted. I’m guessing of the top of my head both calves were weaned 75-80% of the time. Only lost both one time. They usually weaned smaller but two calves at 450# beats any 600# when the check from the sale barn comes. I even had one cow wean triplets on her own. She was the best cow I ever had, sold her at 20 years old and open and weaned 20 calves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db1486 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 13 hours ago, hobbyfarm said: Question for you guys. What is your success rate with twins in beef cattle? We had a set (free martin) born in 2020 that hit the ground running and never looked back. We finished them out. They were sold as beef qtrs in January. We had a set 2 weeks ago from a different cow. The first was still born. Definitely lifeless when born. The second wasnt right from day 1 and despite intervention is no longer going. The cow was earlier then expected but that seems to be the case in twins. We like twins here, if they're from a good cow. We usually get a set or 2 every year. If we get a set from a cow that that won't produce enough milk for both then we sometimes end up bottle feeding one or will use it as replacement calf in case we lose one. We also keep all twin heifer pairs and when we turn the heifers out to breed there is no difference in them vs single calf. The same usually goes for when we sell feeders. We don't finish out here so no idea on that if they take longer or not. We've had some cows that raised better twins then a cow that raised only one. Speaking of twins a few years back now we had a stillborn calf and we wanted a replacement calf. A guy said he had a set if twins we could buy one. So we went to pick her up and he didn't really want either one so we brought both home, and put both on the cow that lost hers. Never bottle fed either and we weaned them both the same time as our other heifers. They are probably our biggest cows in the herd. Would never guess they are twins. One is Red and the other is black with white face. Actually quite a few cows in our herd are twins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxum 140 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 We have very good success rate with twins out of our herd we usually have about 15 sets per year. We almost always pull one off and bottle then pail feed them. We A.I. quite a few cows and try to keep heifers and bulls out of the cows that have twins. We run simmental cows and they are known to throw alot od twins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmtbob Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Been calving quite a few the last couple weeks. I bought some red angus heifers last fall and they are popping them out like crazy now. Had 6 new babies on the ground Saturday out of 5 new mommas speaking of twins. Only 5 left to go of my heifers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 6 hours ago, maxxum 140 said: We have very good success rate with twins out of our herd we usually have about 15 sets per year. We almost always pull one off and bottle then pail feed them. We A.I. quite a few cows and try to keep heifers and bulls out of the cows that have twins. We run simmental cows and they are known to throw alot od twins Gudmundsen Sandhills Laboratory, a University of Nebraska owned ranch north of Whitman Nebr. did a twinning study. They tried, by keeping twins as replacements, to produce cows with a high disposition to have twins. I can't find the study but IIRC they gave up as it was unsustainable. They never got the results they hoped for. I could write a whole page on twins but would be repeating a lot of what has already been said. Sometimes I get lucky and a mature cow with enough milk will claim and raise them both to weaning. Other times I have barn chores. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray54 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I have to agree with Jeff, sometimes its good sometime not. Part of of it is we calve to early by natures ways. But looking real hard at numbers and amount of work, I think it pays. But we never get any 2 years that alike. Grass can start anywhere from Oct to March. You really need weanable calves by April, so in a bad year you unload early to save more cows. So we calve from Oct to Dec. But sometimes cost to much and with mud and cold so nothing grows to get the cows to breed in Jan. Have run into the freemartin business in heifer calves we bottle feed. A real disappointment when don't at least get nice gentle cow out of the deal. The amount of country we give each cow, if she walks off with one you have not idea of where the other came from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxum 140 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 If we do leave the twins on the cows we try and keep those cows in our home pasture so we can grain the cows alittle everyday. Our cows usually don't have a oroblem producing enough milk but it just seems like the calves do a whole lot better. Better to feed momma better then yo have her raise two dogs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyfarm Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 20 hours ago, ray54 said: I have to agree with Jeff, sometimes its good sometime not. Part of of it is we calve to early by natures ways. But looking real hard at numbers and amount of work, I think it pays. But we never get any 2 years that alike. Grass can start anywhere from Oct to March. You really need weanable calves by April, so in a bad year you unload early to save more cows. So we calve from Oct to Dec. But sometimes cost to much and with mud and cold so nothing grows to get the cows to breed in Jan. Have run into the freemartin business in heifer calves we bottle feed. A real disappointment when don't at least get nice gentle cow out of the deal. The amount of country we give each cow, if she walks off with one you have not idea of where the other came from. Interesting point you make about not knowing where the calf came from. On the sheep side of things rejection can happen real easy. The only way we tell where the lamb came from is by looking for the bloody butts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightman Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Our farm is purebred Simmental operation. Growing up there twins weren’t despised, but weren’t really a good thing either. Calving cows in January at 35 below when barn space was at a premium didn’t allow for a lot of extra time spent with them. My own commercial cows that we calve in March and April now, I can take them, or leave them. The welding shop is my primary income, so any extra I have to be away is a problem. If I was farming full time, I think I would feel differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmtbob Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 This is a daily sight for me now. I don’t know if that’s the new twins on the their momma or not. I’ve got calves nursing on whoever will let them. As long as the heifers have their calf in front of them or nursing they don’t mind another one sucking. I’ve never had that happen before. My older cows are not so generous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandhiller Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 41 minutes ago, Tmtbob said: This is a daily sight for me now. I don’t know if that’s the new twins on the their momma or not. I’ve got calves nursing on whoever will let them. As long as the heifers have their calf in front of them or nursing they don’t mind another one sucking. I’ve never had that happen before. My older cows are not so generous Fairly common here. After all they only one year past idiot yearling heifer stage.🤬. 😄 Some calves get pretty good at knowing who they can rob off of. The only time it really bothers me is if a older bigger calf is draining the bag that shoulda went to a younger smaller calf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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