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5 minutes ago, redneckchevy9 said:

Those rear windows are pretty cool

Peterbilt referred to them as opera windows . I also have the one piece windshield with  three wiper  blades , in trucker lingo , the “Big window Pete” 

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18 minutes ago, lorenzo said:

Peterbilt referred to them as opera windows . I also have the one piece windshield with  three wiper  blades , in trucker lingo , the “Big window Pete” 

I've heard of those, but never seen one.

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1 hour ago, lorenzo said:

Square doors and round headlights are the dead giveaway for the old model 352 and 352H

Then in 1981 came the 362 and later refined to the 362E and was even available in tandem steer.

I think the cab over for Pete ended with a weird looking 372 available up until 1993 

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I don't think this one (pictured) was a 352H model unless its missing the extra step and hand rail.

Must be just a standard 352.

Thanks for the info.  I don't know too much about old semis.  If there is one classic semi I would like to get it would be a semi just like this one.  The movie made an scary impression on me first time I saw it when I was little. 

 

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Old Kirk National lease truck on the trailer. 350, with 7 spd Spicer, spring ride. The one in the shed, 400, 13spd, air ride. Has been sitting in the shed since 2014. Needs new dual exhaust from the elbows up and tires. Probably never get done. Both are 1985s.

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9 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:

Thanks for the info.  I don't know too much about old semis.  If there is one classic semi I would like to get it would be a semi just like this one.  The movie made an scary impression on me first time I saw it when I was little. 

 

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That movie stared Dennis Weaver.

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11 hours ago, lorenzo said:

You have all seen this one but here ya go anyway.

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I friend of mine had a truck like that he was trying to fix up he had a 3408 he was going to stick in it his didn't have rear windows if I remember correctly I can't remember what year it was unfortunately cancer took him from us before he could get started

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1 hour ago, 856 Custom said:

Old Kirk National lease truck on the trailer. 350, with 7 spd Spicer, spring ride. The one in the shed, 400, 13spd, air ride. Has been sitting in the shed since 2014. Needs new dual exhaust from the elbows up and tires. Probably never get done. Both are 1985s.

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I remember when you could buy those for a little of nothing around here now you hardly see any internationals mostly freight shakers and kw I see anymore

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What some of you guys are either forgetting or are too young to know is some states restricted the over length of a semi way back when. In 1980 for example MN max without over sized load permits was 55'. You didn't make money with a big tractor. You made money with a big trailer. You could pull a 40-45' trailer with a cab over. It changed sometime in the 80's. 

 

Rick

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At one point your combo could only be 10' longer than your trailer. My gravel truck is an S Series S2275, which had a BBC of something like 90". It came from a fleet of these trucks that hauled over the road. 

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1 hour ago, oldtanker said:

What some of you guys are either forgetting or are too young to know is some states restricted the over length of a semi way back when. In 1980 for example MN max without over sized load permits was 55'. You didn't make money with a big tractor. You made money with a big trailer. You could pull a 40-45' trailer with a cab over. It changed sometime in the 80's. 

 

Rick

STAA

Surface Transpotation Assistance Act (Deregulation) happened in 1982 if I remember correctly.

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7 minutes ago, 1586 Jeff said:

STAA

Surface Transpotation Assistance Act (Deregulation) happened in 1982 if I remember correctly.

AH OK I wasn't paying much attention to stuff like that at the time I guess. All I knew when I left to go to Germany in 83 lot of the trucks I saw in MN were still COE's and when I got back in 87 didn't hardly see and COE's.

Rick

 

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39 minutes ago, oldtanker said:

AH OK I wasn't paying much attention to stuff like that at the time I guess. All I knew when I left to go to Germany in 83 lot of the trucks I saw in MN were still COE's and when I got back in 87 didn't hardly see and COE's.

Rick

A few years ago I was watching a TV show on cab overs and they said a lot of people started complaining they where dangerous because there was nothing in between the driver and whatever they hit that's why conventional trucks took over maybe that's one reason they changed the law? If that's true I'm surprised ol Ralph Nater didn't try stopping it

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51 minutes ago, 88power said:

A few years ago I was watching a TV show on cab overs and they said a lot of people started complaining they where dangerous because there was nothing in between the driver and whatever they hit that's why conventional trucks took over maybe that's one reason they changed the law? If that's true I'm surprised ol Ralph Nater didn't try stopping it

Well that was one thing that was true with a cabover, 60's van and VW bus, you were always the first one to the accident.

I don't know if that played into it or not. I've seen results of accidents involving COE's and the cab coming completely off of the frame of a COE wasn't all that uncommon. 

 

Rick

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I heard a horror story once a number of years ago. 

A guy had just picked up a cabover with a 2 stroke Detroit in it. The engine had just been worked on for some reason or another. Guy was going down the road and for whatever reason the flywheel came off the engine. Flywheel tore through the bell housing and up into the cab, killing the driver. I have always remembered that story. 

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6 hours ago, Reichow7120 said:

I heard a horror story once a number of years ago. 

A guy had just picked up a cabover with a 2 stroke Detroit in it. The engine had just been worked on for some reason or another. Guy was going down the road and for whatever reason the flywheel came off the engine. Flywheel tore through the bell housing and up into the cab, killing the driver. I have always remembered that story. 

This would more likely happen to you in a conventional truck then a cabover, in a cabover the bellhousing is more under the sleeper. 

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6 hours ago, oldtanker said:

Well that was one thing that was true with a cabover, 60's van and VW bus, you were always the first one to the accident............

 

Rick

Reminds me of an old Mississippi joke.

Leroy  and Willie were trying to get their CDL-------- but neither could read nor write.  Both had been long time farm hands and excellent tractor drivers for their boss.  This was their lifetime dream-----to be over the road truckers driving one of those big cab over rigs coast to coast.

The boss had talked with the driver's license examiner and arranged for him to give them an oral test and help them all he could by keeping things simple.

The examiner took Willie first.  Saying Willie you are headed south in your big rig with Leroy asleep in the bunk.  You are topping this long, steep hill on a narrow two lane highway when you see right in front of you a north bound Greyhound bus (passing a slow moving farm tractor pulling a long trailer of cotton to the gin) in your lane.  What would you do???

Leroy immediately replied:  "I would holler wake up Leroy----wake up!!! 

The examiner was somewhat puzzled and said:  but---what about your driving reaction???

With big eyes------Willie say:  "yas-suh boss-------but you see neither me nor Leroy have ever seen a mother-fxxxing wreck like this gonna be!!!"

DD

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8 hours ago, Reichow7120 said:

I heard a horror story once a number of years ago. 

A guy had just picked up a cabover with a 2 stroke Detroit in it. The engine had just been worked on for some reason or another. Guy was going down the road and for whatever reason the flywheel came off the engine. Flywheel tore through the bell housing and up into the cab, killing the driver. I have always remembered that story. 

That right there about stopped tractor pulling around here about eighteen years ago a man had a Allis Chambers d-21 first pull out since he had been working on it he got hooked up built up boost let out of the clutch and the flywheel came apart cut the d-21 in half a chunk came out hit his next door neighbor on the side of the track and killed him. If you're turning big RPM that's why you never run a cast iron flywheel and the cast iron damper I've seen them come off drag cars. Friend of mine was young n dumb had a Camaro  with a small block it turn 9 Grand all day long was on the street in front of his house adjust the carb reeved it up and the damper came off knocked a hole in the road and went all the way down the street

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the decline of COE went hand in hand with the increase in fugly Volvos and Frieghtshakers with the aerodynamics  IMHO

 

 theres a COE in this episode of Movin On ( no hijack here) for those who enjoy the show or others that were too young all the episodes are on YouTube again . Every time I have seen them on there eventually they get taken down

 

 

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2 hours ago, NY1468 said:

This would more likely happen to you in a conventional truck then a cabover, in a cabover the bellhousing is more under the sleeper. 

Gotta agree.

Rick

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This is my cab over. It's a 1975 Cruise-Liner. The picture is the one from 2004 The Wheels of Times magazine article on western trucks. Still have the truck and run it on nice day just to keep it going.  Second picture is same truck and trailer fourteen years later. 

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Remember when the Cruise-Liners came out. I was driving an f-700 coe at the time. I would have committed murder to get one.

Dennis

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