D1206 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 7 hours ago, SDman said: The separating area increase in the 1600 series was due to all the extra holes in the back half of the cage that the 1400s didn’t have. Also, the first CDC/Cummins engined 1680s did NOT have the long sieve. I’ve got a couple short sieve, Cummins-engined 1680s around here. Pretty sure it was 91-92 models, I quit working at the local dealership in fall of 90 & don't think they were out then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahamfireman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 22 hours ago, SDman said: Also, the first CDC/Cummins engined 1680s did NOT have the long sieve. I’ve got a couple short sieve, Cummins-engined 1680s around here. I bet those are rare machines. Any idea what serial numbers both changes occured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 CDC/Cummins engines started at 1680 serial# JJC0045689, which was supposed to be around April 1, 1989. Ironically, it was supposed to be the same date that the Magnums came out with a 4-spd reverse and the “big numbers” disappeared from the sides of both the combines and Magnums. Long sieve 1680s came out at sn#JJC0047412, which should be an early 1990 machine. All CDC/Cummins machines did have the heavy-duty shaker drives, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahamfireman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Was this just the 1680's or did the 40 and 60 machines have a period where they had the CDC and short shoe too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDman Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 40/60 machines didn’t have long sieves until the 44s/66s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dun lurkin Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Back in '90 or '91 Dad bought a used '88 model 1660 with a Cummins motor that was supposed to have been one of the first 15 or so prototypes with the Cummins. I dont have serial number info around anymore to share. He traded it for a new machine in '93 i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acem Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 A friend has a 1680 with the cummins and short screens. Thx-Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Veg. Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Here’s one Hoober already did. http://www.hoober.com/Content/Images/CurrentAds/AxialFlowTimeline.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerole Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Regarding SDman's comment shaker drives...can the early 1680 be upgraded to the heavy duty shaker drives? Bushing seem to wear out too fast no matter how careful we are with centering/tightening the bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utility 64 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superih Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 I came across this over on the Combine Forum, a downloadable digital copy of the the complete shop service manual for the 2100 and 2300 combines, over 2800 pages long. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iGOzMiElunTmlIVTlWbjBDUGM/view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utility 64 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 First Axial-Flow combine in Europe returns to SIMA four decades after making its debut https://media.cnhindustrial.com/EUROPE/CASE-IH/LATEST-NEWS/first-axial-flow-combine-in-europe-returns-to-sima-four-decades-after-making-its-debut/s/e79191d3-e471-472b-8164-b10ebfe77019 Forty years since International Harvester Axial-Flow combines were launched in Europe in France at SIMA 1979 / Original 1460 model as featured on stand to be displayed at this year’s show / Latest 50 series Axial-Flow models with Harvest Command make their first SIMA appearance . The very first Axial-Flow combine to come to Europe is to return to the exhibition where it made its debut 40 years ago, with the restored International Harvester 1460 model to be displayed at the main entrance of Hall 5 at SIMA 2019. Visitors will find the Case IH stand in the same hall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utility 64 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Jean Paul STREIFF, first user of the Axial Flow combine harvester, stands in front of his "1460" on the esplanade of SIMA. http://www.lestracteursrouges.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1109&p=415696#p415696 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aaron Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 On 11/22/2018 at 1:39 PM, SDman said: 40/60 machines didn’t have long sieves until the 44s/66s. Think it was George 2 that had one of the last 1660’s made that had long sieves. Wonder if they didn’t let a few go out for testing or just make a change on the last few? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCSFARMS Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 On 11/22/2018 at 12:27 PM, SDman said: CDC/Cummins engines started at 1680 serial# JJC0045689, which was supposed to be around April 1, 1989. Ironically, it was supposed to be the same date that the Magnums came out with a 4-spd reverse and the “big numbers” disappeared from the sides of both the combines and Magnums. Long sieve 1680s came out at sn#JJC0047412, which should be an early 1990 machine. All CDC/Cummins machines did have the heavy-duty shaker drives, though. Our family owned the first 6 with the long shoe- JJC0047412-JJC0047417 it was also the first batch of Cummins with the 2150 high idle RPM, which didn’t work out (not enough torque curve) so when they brought them back up to 2650 they didn’t tell us the large shoe drive pulley was smaller to keep sieve RPM up to speed with slower engine RPM!! Took about 15-20 separator hrs to shake the cleaning system out of a couple before Pro Harvest caught it and got us the replacement 5 sided belt and larger dia pulley Also this was part of the batch of 1680’s with soft piston rings so we lost 3 motors in ND at approximately 400-500 hrs when the rings let go crank case pressure would climb until it held all the oil on the top side and starved the crank and main & rods would go, sometimes a rod would come out the side of the block.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedar farm Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Late to read this. Interesting. The very last 1600's had the large sieve bushings and long sieves. The 44/66/88 had many of the updates used on the 2100 series including the splined unload auger(one piece) and the pfc hyd system. I was at the Case IH trade fair when they introduced the 2100 series. The auditorium was completely dark and BAM! They turned on the stadium lights on three combines. I got the same shivers as when I was sitting in the theater as a kid when the first few notes of the Star Wars theme song was played. Still have the dealer edition combine they handed out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred B Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 My Dad and us three boys were invited to the introduction of the axial flow combine at AgLine International, Corpus Christi, Texas. They fed us and then told us about how their new combine eliminated the straw walkers, the beater behind the cylinder etc. etc. etc. And I'm thinking, "Oh good, you were able to lower the price then. What?! you raised the price????" I believe this was the year after Dad had just bought a new 915 combine. Fred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightninboy Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 On 10/9/2018 at 7:26 AM, SDman said: Neat list. Hoober's used to have a similar timeline, but it doesn't seem to be on their redesigned webpage anymore. http://www.hoober.com/Images/CurrentAds/AxialFlowTimeline.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
450demo Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I have a 1992, 1680 serial # 48155 with the short sieves which I thought by then they were all long sieve. Still a great machine though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahamfireman Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 11/22/2018 at 12:27 PM, SDman said: CDC/Cummins engines started at 1680 serial# JJC0045689, which was supposed to be around April 1, 1989. Long sieve 1680s came out at sn#JJC0047412, which should be an early 1990 machine. The poster above me mentioned it, and for some reason the serial number stuck in my head. Well by per stupid luck, I have here in our shed, a neighbors machine. cummins powered, short shoe 1680. Serial number, 48147. So I think SDmans serial number break is off. I dont know why I'm so fascinated by these weird short shoe cummins machines..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDman Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 CaseIH references that serial # in several places for the start of the long sieve machines. Both in parts and service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brahamfireman Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I fully believe you, but something as slipped through the cracks. I'm literally looking at one, and the poster above has one. I find oddities like this fascinating. I assume there was no option to get a short shoe machine after the long shoe came out??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGreenYellow Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Have a short sieve 1680 Cummins on the farm S/N. 47404. So it was very near the very last ones built in that config. Been stored inside and hasn't moved for fifteen years. Going to sell it for parts/salvage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 1086 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 The sintered bronze inline filter went on the first build with the Control Concepts valve stack in 1981 - 1420 was first build. I developed the training materials and presented them to company service personnel at PSC Hinsdale. Many dealers and customers took the filter out and all the crap it was catching went straight into the valve stack - we all became very proficient at tear down and cleaning of the valves. The 1470 hillside prototype ran in CA in 1979 at Paso Robles in June/July. The 1480 rice prototype was introduced to CA rice dealers at Yuba City in 1979 as well if memory serves. The 915 rice was continued through 1979 as not everyone was convinced that AF would work well in rice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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