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1945 McCormick Deering W6

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This is the latest project that Dad And I have taken on for our small collection. It is a 1945 McCormick Deering W6 kerosene burner that appears to have had electrics originally. Due to the only electrical part still fitted being the starter motor I think we will make it hand crank only (like all our other IH tractors). The engine runs great but the transmission has a major problem.  

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We found once we got it running that third gear had a clunking noise. The oil is far from good too.

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The counter shaft looking very sad with tooth ache on third gear.

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Two teeth missing off the third gear sliding gear. Luckily they were in the bottom of the transmission and not between more gears. 

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Someone had been good over the years and greased the clutch , not sure how much they thought it needed but they did their best to try to fill the bell housing. This was after I had taken handfuls of grease out. The input shaft seal was stuffed too. The clutch was worn out too 

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The transmission on its way back together with new old stock gears replacing the broken gears.I was lucky to find the NOS gears in the states and had them sent over here to NZ. We have replaced all the bearings and seals in the transmission and the back end is getting the same treatment.

It took lots of heat and a 100 ton press to get the rear wheel centers and bearings off the axles.A smaller press was tried but nothing would move.

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The manifold has had some patch up work done (almost artistic) But luckily we bought a parts tractor that has a good manifold that we will be putting on once we get some studs replaced to hold the heat shield. 

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A 1944 W6 that we bought for parts. It was someones project that never got completed and had been left for a lot of years at the back of the shed. Sadly the transmission gears were not much better than the broken ones in our project tractor so we couldn't use them. At least it has all the parts our project tractor was missing to complete the kerosene burning attachments. It has never had any electrics fitted. We have used the flywheel from this one too as the ring gear has never been used.

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Once we have the W6 back together we will run it for a while before doing any painting ,partly to check for oil leaks and any other faults and also because we still have Dads 1947 Case DEX to paint before the W6 gets it's turn.

Marty,NZ

 

 

 

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I can feal your pain getting the hubs off the axles. I spent the better part of two months with 20tons pulling on each of my ODS6 hubs, lots of heat, and a lot of armstong with a sizeable sledge getting them off. 

One suggestion, since you have alot of time invested in the transmission, is to pull the belt pulley shaft out of the belt pulley unit and clean out all the crud in it. Mine was packed with transmission debris from a previous failure, and rust from not being used. The belt pulley unit has something of a built in tray that holds gear oil slung up from the transmission. It over flows out of the tray and back into the transmission. Thus its a perfect spot for debris to collect.

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The belt pulley is really noisey so it is getting new seals and bearings too. Everything will be fully cleaned out before reassembly.The plan is to make it last another 70+ years, not that it will be working as hard as it did 70 years ago.

Marty,NZ

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Made some more progress today. Dad has been busy cleaning parts and painting lots of parts during the week so we could get the transmission and the back end finished off today. 

We rebuilt the belt pulley assembly ,fitted the rear axle seals and fitted the wheel centers. Filled the transmission with oil and fitted the transmission top. Fitted new gauges and changed the thermostat. Once the transmission top is painted we can get the steering box,seat and brakes back on.

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Some more progress Dad made today.

 

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You wont want to get it dirty and I wouldnt want to be the first person to chip or mark that paint job lol

Looks darn fine

Brett 

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Slowly making progress , even had a drive around the block today. Finally able to move under it's own power with all gears doing what they should. Even tried the hood for size before we do some repairs to it. 

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The W6 out for another road test and giving Dad's Farmall H a run. Still a lot of work to do but at least now it starts on the crank handle and can move under its own power.

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Some new rubber fitted today. Slowly starting to come together. Decided on 7.50 x 16 BKT tires for the front and 16.9 x 30 BKT on the rear. 

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New fuel lines made and the replacement Kerosene manifold fitted last weekend.

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If you get into the front spindles, and can come up with a set of the thrust bearings at the bottom of the spindles, let me know where to get them----

I have been looking for a few years, and can come up with nothing.

Mike

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Just now, mikem said:

If you get into the front spindles, and can come up with a set of the thrust bearings at the bottom of the spindles, let me know where to get them----

I have been looking for a few years, and can come up with nothing.

Mike

may not fit this application.......recently some one posted of needing such bearings....follow up to post may get you a source.

if I see again  will attach

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4 hours ago, mikem said:

If you get into the front spindles, and can come up with a set of the thrust bearings at the bottom of the spindles, let me know where to get them----

I have been looking for a few years, and can come up with nothing.

Mike

I am working on the problem at the moment. Someone has written a part number for a thrust bearing in my parts book but it looks like it will require the axle to be machined to fit it. Will let you know how I get on.

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Some more pictures showing some of our progress. 

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The W6 as it arrived 

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A lot of the work doesn't show but it is improving 

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Very nicely done and will give lots of years of pleasure. Keep the photos coming. Thanks for sharing your project.

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Dad drove the W6 to the Edendale Vintage Club's Crank Up the last weekend of January. It takes just over an hour on our old tractors to drive to the show. The W6 ran great and made it back to his place with no issues.

Marty,NZ

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I was at Crank up too and saw the tractor - but didnt connect it to being your one here LOL

It was a good show and I love going to Crank up. It's a great two days and your tractor is a credit to all concerned.

I was excited to watch the IH3388(?) in the tractor pull - just walked away with the pull trailer.

I was invited to crew one of the traction engines and again a new experience but I digress and am taking away from your thread on your Dads tractor

Well done

Cheers Brett

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1 hour ago, 35desoto said:

I was at Crank up too and saw the tractor - but didnt connect it to being your one here LOL

It was a good show and I love going to Crank up. It's a great two days and your tractor is a credit to all concerned.

I was excited to watch the IH3388(?) in the tractor pull - just walked away with the pull trailer.

I was invited to crew one of the traction engines and again a new experience but I digress and am taking away from your thread on your Dads tractor

Well done

Cheers Brett

Hi Brett

I never even gave it a thought that any red power members might be at crank up. It is a local show for us, just over an hour to drive the W6 to the show. I have put some photos on the coffee shop but lost all the feature vehicle photos I had taken. 

The old pulling sled did not even make the 3388 start to work hard. They needed to load it up a lot more to really test it lol. 

I am glad you had the chance to try out a traction engine. It is not often you get the chance to try things like this now.  Things have certainly changed since they were built. 

Marty,NZ

 

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Local show? Lol

I come down from Auckland for the whole weekend and I know Franklin Vintage Machinery boys were there too. Crank up is world famous in N Z 👍

It was a shame they couldn't run the big tractor pull like previous years but at least it's still retained its uniqueness. You couldn't run a show like that in Auckland as the PC brigade would be up in arms. 

Bring on 2020' s show

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Back in 2000 my wife and I toured your country for 17 days, a beautiful country you have there and you should be proud to live there!

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To answer simply

Yes we are 

We have our issues but sometimes Im grateful to be a simple country boy who lives down under😃

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